# Clinton Global Initiative bites the dust **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 16, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294 "2017-01-16T05:15:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/61 "2017-01-24T15:05:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’d say you’re not over Clinton running. Get over it and rejoice in the coming Trumpocracy. > If you think Clinton was pay to play, you ain’t seen _nothing_ yet. I never had any problems with Hillary running. I just had problems with her cheating and corruption. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/62 "2017-01-24T15:06:40Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I guess that is why only hard-right sites are now reporting this - not really breaking news. No its not but the coincidence of all these foreign donors suddenly walking away from them seems like more than mere coincidence, neh? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/63 "2017-01-24T15:17:39Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > No its not but the coincidence of all these foreign donors suddenly walking away from them seems like more than mere coincidence, neh? It’s a reasonable guess that they thought their donations would help get access to the Clintons. They also might be dropping donations because they think Trump would see continued donations as insulting. But that doesn’t mean the Clintons were purposefully running a pay to play scheme. By all informed accounts, the charity does good work and isn’t some slush fund. No reports of the Clinton Foundation buying portraits of Bill or paying off lawsuits, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/64 "2017-01-25T17:51:16Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > It’s a reasonable guess that they thought their donations would help get access to the Clintons. They also might be dropping donations because they think Trump would see continued donations as insulting. But that doesn’t mean the Clintons were purposefully running a pay to play scheme. By all informed accounts, the charity does good work and isn’t some slush fund. No reports of the Clinton Foundation buying portraits of Bill or paying off lawsuits, for example. I could probably agree with all of that. The Clinton Foundation does good work and even a small amount of support from the Clinton foundation can be very beneficial because other charities use it as a marker when they look for places to spend their own money. However, this does not apply as well to the Clinton Global Initiative where the people were lining up donors with speeches with outside opportunities, etc. How would you feel about a Trump Foundation that did good work to which large corporations (like Exxon) and foreign countries (like Russia) regularly contributed shit tons of money. And there was a subsidiary of that foundation that also helped book high paying gigs for Trump’s wife and his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/65 "2017-01-25T17:59:04Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Is anyone outraged in this thread? My only outrage is that none of the Dems on this board demanded Clinton’s impeachment as Sec of State because if a foreign government ever paid to hear her speak then she is in violation of the Emoluments Clause. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/66 "2017-01-25T18:53:56Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > My only outrage is that none of the Dems on this board demanded Clinton’s impeachment as Sec of State because if a foreign government ever paid to hear her speak then she is in violation of the Emoluments Clause. Do you have evidence that a foreign government paid to hear her speak during her tenure as SecState? “if” and “ever paid” don’t constitute such evidence, and demanding impeachment for an “if” would be dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/67 "2017-01-25T19:21:20Z")
> [@slash2k](#): > > Do you have evidence that a foreign government paid to hear her speak during her tenure as SecState? > > “if” and “ever paid” don’t constitute such evidence, and demanding impeachment for an “if” would be dishonest. [Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html) > [@](#): > > As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well. > > And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/68 "2017-01-25T19:36:05Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > How would you feel about a Trump Foundation that did good work to which large corporations (like Exxon) and foreign countries (like Russia) regularly contributed shit tons of money. And there was a subsidiary of that foundation that also helped book high paying gigs for Trump’s wife and his supporters. I would be uncomfortable. Do you have an article that describes that last accusation against the Clinton’s? My impression is that supposedly CGI paid some guy to speak and then their company hired a Clinton to speak in return not that CGI explicitly helped book speaking gigs for the Clintons. That theory is brought up a lot less often than the “pay to play” accusation. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/69 "2017-01-25T19:44:23Z")
That NY Times quote above was actually referring to Bill recieved the $500k though the post I was responding to asked specifically about Hillary. Sorry if that was misleading. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/70 "2017-01-25T20:16:20Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I would be uncomfortable. > > Do you have an article that describes that last accusation against the Clinton’s? My impression is that supposedly CGI paid some guy to speak and then their company hired a Clinton to speak in return not that CGI explicitly helped book speaking gigs for the Clintons. That theory is brought up a lot less often than the “pay to play” accusation. I googled Clinton global initiative and corruption and I got a bunch of stuff. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bill-clinton-inc-hacked-memo-reveals-intersection-of-charity-and-personal-income/2016/10/26/3bf84bba-9b92-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048\_story.html?utm\_term=.388a07868809](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bill-clinton-inc-hacked-memo-reveals-intersection-of-charity-and-personal-income/2016/10/26/3bf84bba-9b92-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html?utm_term=.388a07868809) [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html) > **[The Clinton Foundation Shuts Down Clinton Global Initiative](https://observer.com/2017/01/the-clinton-foundation-shuts-down-clinton-global-initiative/)** > > The organization was built on greed and the lust for power and wealth—not charity. Its at least smoke if not fire. We can’t be entirely sure who set the fire or if the fire was set intentionally but it doesn’t look great. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/71 "2017-01-25T20:43:12Z")
> [@slash2k](#): > > Do you have evidence that a foreign government paid to hear her speak during her tenure as SecState? > > “if” and “ever paid” don’t constitute such evidence, and demanding impeachment for an “if” would be dishonest. I have as much proof of that as I do that a foreign government paid Trump for a room in his hotel and he did not give it to the US Treasury as promised … meaning none whatsoever. There is proof that the money was given to her foundation as a donation. Did Hillary ever receive a salary from the CF? No but they did get the CF to pay for their travel. If what Trump does is a violation of the Emoluments Clause then so is that. And what about countries [paying for influence](http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/05/26/clintons-state-department-approved-weapons-deals-to-governments-who-made-donations-to-their-foundation-n2003917/print)? ---
**Author:** ![gopachok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@gopachok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gopachok)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/72 "2017-01-26T10:25:14Z")
Just when you thought it was safe to flush, the turd is back… [Defeated candidate Clinton considers launching liberal television show to lay the groundwork for another White House run](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156564/Hillary-television-groundwork-White-House-run.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/73 "2017-01-26T10:43:31Z")
> [@gopachok](#): > > Just when you thought it was safe to flush, the turd is back… > [Defeated candidate Clinton considers launching liberal television show to lay the groundwork for another White House run](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156564/Hillary-television-groundwork-White-House-run.html) Wild speculation piled on top of wild speculation. Which is about par for the Daily Mail. She’ll make some noise now and then to remain relevant and try to play kingmaker, much like Sarah Palin did by popping up on FoxNews and elsewhere, but she’s not running again. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/74 "2017-01-26T10:50:27Z")
> [@gopachok](#): > > Just when you thought it was safe to flush, the turd is back… > [Defeated candidate Clinton considers launching liberal television show to lay the groundwork for another White House run](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156564/Hillary-television-groundwork-White-House-run.html) It’s the Daily Mail and the source is [Ed Klein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein) , who got it from ‘a Clinton insider’ > [@](#): > > Klein received extensive criticism for his 2005 biography of Hillary Clinton, The Truth About Hillary. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes [that] don’t gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton’s life. Permit me to treat that story with the skepticism it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294/75 "2017-01-26T13:00:06Z")
I barely remember hearing about it, how this buttmunchkin Klein floated a story about Chelsea being the result of a marital rape. His books come out of Regnery Publishing, coming to be known as Remainder House, which has become the fondest dream of maybe a hundred dollar store AM radio “talk show” hosts, shrieking to be noticed about all the other meth-addled baboons. Jeebus Arriba, where do they all come from? I can probably name ten just off the top of my head, shit geysers like Michelle Malkin, the Savage Wiener, Hugh Hurlit, Michael Medfly, and I never listened to any of it! Even gorram Tucker Carlson is drawing a paycheck! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-global-initiative-bites-the-dust/777294.md?page=3)