# Clinton/ Obama debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 21, 2008, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551 "2008-02-21T13:38:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/41 "2008-02-21T21:59:27Z")
[QUOTE=casieispretty] If Obama walked across the floor and squeezed her breast while saying, “Honk, honk,” that would surely cost him the election. [/QUOTE] This is one of the funniest things I have ever read here! Seriously! It was so unexpected, and such an absurd mental image, that I laughed till there were tears in my eyes. Will you be here all week? If so, I’ll be buyin’ me some tickets. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/42 "2008-02-21T21:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] [Here’s one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8FRA7k6RVI). [/QUOTE] I can’t really see the “look on her face” as described, the only thing I notice is a sigh when he starts talking. Were they in the same building? Did she know he had started his speech? [QUOTE=Miller] Probably net him Bill’s, too. [/QUOTE] This is wrong on so many levels… I like it! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/43 "2008-02-21T22:31:15Z")
Other than the fact that they were in different states; him in Texas and her in Ohio, I can’t really answer any of your questions with certainty, **Santo**. What I understand is that her team _tried_ to make it look like a calculated move on Obama’s part to start his speech over hers in order to deflect attention away from her and onto him. However, it’s been brought to light that her speech was supposed to have started at 8:30, and (as usual), she was running late and didn’t actually start until 8:45 or so. He started when he was supposed to start, but since she wasn’t done yet, oh well. Could he have waited? I guess. Should he have? Maybe, but I’m not sure I would have. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/44 "2008-02-21T23:32:21Z")
Oh, I hope to hear some questions about Kosovo, Pakistan, etc tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/45 "2008-02-21T23:51:40Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Other than the fact that they were in different states; him in Texas and her in Ohio, I can’t really answer any of your questions with certainty, **Santo**. What I understand is that her team _tried_ to make it look like a calculated move on Obama’s part to start his speech over hers in order to deflect attention away from her and onto him. However, it’s been brought to light that her speech was supposed to have started at 8:30, and (as usual), she was running late and didn’t actually start until 8:45 or so. He started when he was supposed to start, but since she wasn’t done yet, oh well. Could he have waited? I guess. Should he have? Maybe, but I’m not sure I would have. [/QUOTE] Agreed. And given that she’s taken to trying to never congratulate him on a win… it hardly leaves her any room at all to cry foul. y’know? ---
**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/46 "2008-02-21T23:52:55Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] Oh, I hope to hear some questions about Kosovo, Pakistan, etc tonight. [/QUOTE] Totally agreeing with that. I’d love to see real and substantive questions and get to see how they handle events that are very relevant and real-time. That would be VERY telling to me. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/47 "2008-02-21T23:53:05Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] Other than the fact that they were in different states; him in Texas and her in Ohio, I can’t really answer any of your questions with certainty, **Santo**. What I understand is that her team _tried_ to make it look like a calculated move on Obama’s part to start his speech over hers in order to deflect attention away from her and onto him. However, it’s been brought to light that her speech was supposed to have started at 8:30, and (as usual), she was running late and didn’t actually start until 8:45 or so. He started when he was supposed to start, but since she wasn’t done yet, oh well. Could he have waited? I guess. Should he have? Maybe, but I’m not sure I would have. [/QUOTE] He knew what he was doing. He started exactly when he was supposed to, further indicating that for this entire campaign he has been on time, organized, together, calculating and she has been one, two three steps behind and tripping over the heels of the campaign management staff as they leave the campaign. I just hope he stays razor sharp all night. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/48 "2008-02-22T01:11:11Z")
From the opening comments, I think Hillary did listen to the (smarter, I think) strategy to be warmer tonight instead of tougher. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/49 "2008-02-22T01:19:28Z")
Barack sounds like he’s got a bit of a cold. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/50 "2008-02-22T01:21:46Z")
Obama’s trying really to be substantive and specific. His strategy is to show that any allegations made later that he’s all talk will sound especially shrill. He’s also trying to include Hillary in his talk, being gentlemanly and inclusive, reaching out to her supporters to show HE is not part of the Hillary Hate Machine. Hillary is striving to be anecdotal, to emphasize her experience. ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/51 "2008-02-22T01:22:35Z")
Is the debate going to be available on broadcast tv at all? We have no cable and the 'net connection here can be a bit spotty. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/52 "2008-02-22T01:25:00Z")
Our play by play isn’t enough? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/53 "2008-02-22T01:27:05Z")
[QUOTE=cricetus] From the opening comments, I think Hillary did listen to the (smarter, I think) strategy to be warmer tonight instead of tougher. [/QUOTE] I agree - I’m actually relieved they are keeping it warm. Thus the hip to hip I mentioned earlier. It’s going to be a lot tougher to shout profanities and choke each other from being 6 inches away. I’ve got a mental image of Obama goosing HRC when she is talking 😃 Sick. ---
**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/54 "2008-02-22T01:28:16Z")
[QUOTE=stolichnaya] Barack sounds like he’s got a bit of a cold. [/QUOTE] He does - it was in evidence when he visited Dallas yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/55 "2008-02-22T01:30:17Z")
The cost of the civility is that this will be boring. 😉 Obama got one dig in about special interests, but the moderator didn’t let Hillary respond. I hope they have more about the war on science! Even Obama jumped in to compliment Clinton on that comment. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/56 "2008-02-22T01:32:25Z")
I know her voice was hoarse a month ago on the campaign trail, but is what I’m hearing tonight really how she sounds? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/57 "2008-02-22T01:32:57Z")
She sounds pretty normal to me. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/58 "2008-02-22T01:35:11Z")
[QUOTE=Sitnam] I know her voice was hoarse a month ago on the campaign trail, but is what I’m hearing tonight really how she sounds? [/QUOTE] You mean cacklly? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/59 "2008-02-22T01:35:50Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] You mean cacklly? [/QUOTE] Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551/60 "2008-02-22T01:38:17Z")
Then yes, that’s what she sounds like normally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-obama-debate/438551.md?page=4)