# Clinton on Letterman, Botox?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 4, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246 "2004-08-04T04:18:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jplacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jplacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jplacer)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/1 "2004-08-04T04:18:17Z")

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This might be the wrong forum, but here it goes.

Here at work we are watching Bill Clinton on the David Letterman show. A co-worker swears that Clinton looks much younger. She suggested he has had Botox injections.

What do you think?

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**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/2 "2004-08-04T13:14:36Z")

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At any rate he seems to have lost some weight…

Botox should be easy enough to detect - does he frown or raise his eyebrows?

He seems to have suspiciously good hair, too… I’ve heard that older stars often have operations for that or wear hairpieces (Shattner, Connery, etc), but do politicians? I remember Gerhard Schroeder suing a German paper that claimed that he had dyed his hair - touchy subject, I guess.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/3 "2004-08-04T13:19:06Z")

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I noticed his hair looking thinner than usual.  
Certainly less than when he was the Attorney General here and it was brown and shoulder length.  
🙂  
He’s the President who seemed to age the least to me.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/4 "2004-08-04T13:20:29Z")

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He said he’s lost about 25#.  
He does look somewhat younger, but the bags under his eyes have now become a full set on Samsonite and he has a bit of a wattle going on.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/5 "2004-08-04T15:21:20Z")

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Nothing like getting out from under the Murdoch/Scaife/etc media piss-stream to make you feel younger.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/6 "2004-08-04T15:35:44Z")

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> [@Jplacer](#):
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> This might be the wrong forum

Bingo.

IMHO is the place for polls, although one could make the “mundane and pointless” argument.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/7 "2004-08-04T17:26:18Z")

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I didn’t see him on Letterman, but I watched his speech at the DNC a few days ago. He did look good. I guess being semi-retired and having your book make a ton of money (and losing some weight) will do that for you.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/8 "2004-08-04T19:17:42Z")

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I think no pressure or stress will make you look younger. He went from being the leader of the free world to puttering around the house. Might be botox because that is becoming as common as make-up but its probably just that he is happy.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/9 "2004-08-04T23:08:39Z")

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Botox works by paralyzing parts of the face, so that wrinkles don’t form. A Botox patient will have some parts that never move, no matter what expression she’s forming. In extreme cases, you get the Clutch Cargo effect, where nothing moves but the mouth. If the facial expressions are still lively, there has been no Botox. Botox wears off, so if you don’t like it, you can just wait 6 months.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/10 "2004-08-04T23:23:42Z")

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Moving this from IMHO to Cafe Society.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/11 "2004-08-05T02:51:13Z")

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Maybe Clinton hasn’t had any work done, but this thread has. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/12 "2004-08-05T02:55:43Z")

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Moving this from Cafe Society back to IMHO. For reasons stated above.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/13 "2004-08-05T04:00:20Z")

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This thread has been passed around more than a joint between two rastafarians.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/14 "2004-08-05T04:53:47Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He’s the President who seemed to age the least to me.

Interesting… I found he has aged quite a bit.

Compare [this](http://www.pia-institut.de/bill.jpg) image, from the beginning of his first term, to [this](http://www.readio.com/nywindowgallery/celebrities/images/pictures-bill-clinton-celebrity.jpg) one taken more recently. Just my thoughts. We all view aging differently.

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/15 "2004-08-05T07:04:33Z")

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Didn’t see him on Letterman, but watched his DNC speech. I can’t recall whether I thought he looked younger, but it’s possible, as he’s out of the hot seat these days. It’s like how a while ago I saw a former music teacher of mine playing in a wedding band, and he looked like he had lost fifty pounds and ten years. Retiring from teaching can do that for you, so I’d guess that retiring from public office can too.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/16 "2004-08-05T07:19:36Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He’s the President who seemed to age the least to me.

Do you mean while in office? It would make sense - he was 46 when elected, and he’ll be 58 in about two weeks.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/17 "2004-08-05T15:18:17Z")

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I happen to think it’s elation at having finished the book and seeing it sell so well. Not to mention the book tour, with all the adulatory attention from his adoring admirers.

Although, some people have been known to go about with a certain twinkle in the eye and extra spring in their step when in the early stages of a new romance. But that couldn’t possibly be the case with Clinton, since he’s always been so happily and devotedly married… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/18 "2004-08-06T00:37:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Do you mean while in office?

Yes, Carter looked as though he aged ten years in his single term.

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**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/19 "2004-08-06T02:35:39Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> This thread has been passed around more than a joint between two rastafarians …

… and Bill Clinton. 😃

_Saturday Night Live_ is apparently interested in having Clinton host the show? I’d watch it. He seems to have a good sense of humour and wouldn’t mind making fun of himself. To bad Will Ferrell’s not with _SNL_ anymore. I’d love to see Clinton in “The Lovers”. 😃

That said, I think there are numerous Bill Clinton clones out there, so over time, it will only seem that he’s “aging” well. Or maybe Kodos has replaced him already. _“I am Clin-Ton.”_

Anyhoo…

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-on-letterman-botox/258246/20 "2004-08-06T04:11:33Z")

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> [@AskNott](#):
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> In extreme cases, you get the Clutch Cargo effect, where nothing moves but the mouth.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Moving this from IMHO to Cafe Society.

Good call.

> [@Ukulele Ike](#):
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> Moving this from Cafe Society back to IMHO. For reasons stated above.

Damn it!

> [@Askia](#):
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> This thread has been passed around more than a joint between two rastafarians.

Do I have to wait for it to show up in the Pit to vent about Rastafarians’ lackadaisical attitudes about the timely passing of joints? Don’t give me any of that “Soon come” crap, quit Bogarting! (Damn, back to the Cafe…)

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