# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2064 "2016-10-13T17:55:28Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well, a month of Sundays has arrived; Scott Adams is admitting Trump is likely doomed. However, he wasn’t wrong, no sirree. Please don’t pay any attention to the fact Trump was losing already before Gropegate. Oh, and there’s no way a stupid woman referred to Trump’s groping as being “like an octopus” - that had be to be invented by a smart man. > > Adams, of course, is very angry at women about all this. > > [http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women) “Like an octopus” must have been invented by a man? Does he even know any women? Every woman I know has used that term, or heard it used by another woman, on multiple occasions, to describe a very hands-y man. It’s a common metaphor. (Or simile, I forget which and I’m only on my first cup of coffee.) Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2065 "2016-10-13T17:59:17Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I thought you were kidding. [Holy moly.](http://buchanan.org/blog/the-donald-lives-125811)If that was a triumph, I wonder what a defeat looks like? One of those times when the Oxford comma creates ambiguity. 🙂 > [@](#): > > As the day began, he had been denounced by his wife, Mike Pence, and his own staff for a tape of crude and lewd remarks in a decade-old “locker room” conversation on a bus with Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2066 "2016-10-13T18:01:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Trump says he’ll throw Clinton’s _lawyers_ in jail…](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-says-hell-imprison-hillary-clintons-lawyers-too) > “…and your little dog, too!” Weirdest thing in that article, to me: > [@](#): > > Trump […] took a shot at the National Football League’s concussion policy. “Uh! Uh!” he said. “A little ding in the head—you can’t play the rest of the season.” :dubious: The dude really is doubling down on being the poster child for selfish callous narcissists. “Getting injured makes you a _LOSER_!! Ha ha, loser, you’re so weak!!” ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2067 "2016-10-13T18:01:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will square off on the national debt, the economy, Supreme Court and three other subjects at their third and final presidential debate scheduled for Wednesday in Las Vegas. > > [snip] > > Besides debt and entitlements, the economy and the Supreme Court, the candidates also will be asked questions on immigration, foreign hot spots and their fitness to be president. If those are the topics then Clinton most definitely wants the debates to happen, there are a lot of landmines for Trump there. Sure those topics will allow Trump to trot out a lot of the shallow headlines that his base will absolutely love, but not only will those same racist headlines appall many neutrals, the topics will also highlight Trumps complete lack of knowledge about the issues. I predict Trump would walk way genuinely convinced that he nailed it but a quiet majority watching would finally confirm to themselves that he doesn’t actually know what he is talking about, and decide to vote accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2068 "2016-10-13T18:08:00Z")
My Elections Office says absentee ballots will be sent out next week. Can’t wait for mine! EDIT: Go, Hillary! (In case there was any doubt who I’m voting for.) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2069 "2016-10-13T18:14:24Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Ha ha! The NYT says that they could not have possibly damaged Trump’s reputation, because he had already done that to himself by bragging about assaulting women. > > They go on to say that they welcome a chance to have a court of law affirm that. > > AKA: Bring it, fool. I am delighted that they specifically referred to Trump talking to Howard Stern about his daughter being a “piece of ass.” Really, you can’t tarnish slime. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2070 "2016-10-13T18:22:49Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > NYT responds to Trump threat. > > [Aw, snap!](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqivY3WIAAPFpY.jpg) I just read [the original lawsuit threat](https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/DemandForRetraction.PDF). I didn’t know that Trump University had a law school… ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2071 "2016-10-13T18:27:34Z")
[_The Washington Post_ has now endorsed Clinton.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-for-president/2016/10/12/665f9698-8caf-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?utm_term=.5518a3fabba2) Love this excerpt: **“No, we are not making this endorsement simply because Ms. Clinton’s chief opponent is dreadful.”** ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2072 "2016-10-13T18:27:50Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As I’ve stated elsewhere, I think Clinton even showing up for the third debate would be a big mistake. She has nothing to gain by such an appearance and a healthy amount to lose. Let her issue a statement that she sees no purpose to be filled by debating a person who isn’t even supported by his own party, and let the chips fall where they may. She won’t lose any voters over such a decision, and Trump won’t gain any. So why take any chances? Do a major scandal drop on his ass tomorrow, then announce Monday that the debate is off. Nope. Hillary needs to be the bigger man, as they say, and so far she has shown that she is. Very Presidential of her. Trump just looks like an idiot the more he opens his mouth, not to mention a creepy pervert. Ever wonder WHY he purchased the Miss Universe pageant? Wonder no more. Motive, means and opportunity. Hillary has nothing to fear from the Donald or his followers. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2073 "2016-10-13T18:28:34Z")
Eric Trump actually sent an [email to Trump supporters](https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/19th-amendment-exists?utm_term=.mbQQ88pYZa#.qwW3NNoPVr) using Nate Silver’s “Only Men Vote” map, and called it “momentum.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2074 "2016-10-13T18:30:11Z")
Add me to the side who thinks Clinton bowing out of the third debate would be a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2075 "2016-10-13T18:36:25Z")
Damn… now I have to subscribe to the NYT. Reporting and wit like that should be rewarded. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2076 "2016-10-13T18:43:05Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > If those are the topics then Clinton most definitely wants the debates to happen, there are a lot of landmines for Trump there. Most certainly, especially when she [keeps invading his space](https://www.twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/786056285078913024) like in the second one. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2077 "2016-10-13T18:45:27Z")
I agree Hillary shouldn’t pull out of the debate, it would look bad. I sure wouldn’t mind if it got cancelled for some other reason though. The last one embarrassed me as a fellow human. Uggh. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2078 "2016-10-13T18:46:08Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Weirdest thing in that article, to me: > :dubious: The dude really is doubling down on being the poster child for selfish callous narcissists. “Getting injured makes you a _LOSER_!! Ha ha, loser, you’re so weak!!” Yeah, only pussies worry about massive, irreversible brain damage. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2079 "2016-10-13T18:49:57Z")
So whaddya suppose Manafort’s up to these days? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2080 "2016-10-13T18:53:36Z")
OK, so maybe I’m being paranoid about the 3rd debate. It’s just that this election is a tipping point in history, and would really rather not live in this country if it goes the wrong way. And I’m too fucking old to be moving to Tasmania. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2081 "2016-10-13T18:59:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Weirdest thing in that article, to me: > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump […] took a shot at the National Football League’s concussion policy. “Uh! Uh!” he said. “A little ding in the head—you can’t play the rest of the season.” > > :dubious: The dude really is doubling down on being the poster child for selfish callous narcissists. “Getting injured makes you a _LOSER_!! Ha ha, loser, you’re so weak!!” Perhaps he’d like to meet some NFL linemen for a brief counseling session on race relations and concussions. Some folks just can’t learn from reading or watching; they have to experience it first hand. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2082 "2016-10-13T19:05:13Z")
So, Time magazine did put Trump in the cover as having a meldown back in August. Well, they realized that now it is worse: [Total Meltdown.](http://time.com/4528598/donald-trump-meltdown-cover/) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2083 "2016-10-13T19:05:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > OK, so maybe I’m being paranoid about the 3rd debate. It’s just that this election is a tipping point in history, and would really rather not live in this country if it goes the wrong way. And I’m too fucking old to be moving to Tasmania. I was sufficiently concerned about Hillary making a misstep in the first debate that I didn’t watch it. I don’t think that Trump is capable of doing better than he did in the second debate, and we know he’s capable of doing a lot worse. If she was able to hold her ground like she did in the second despite his attacks I’m not worried about the third. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=105)