# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2304 "2016-10-14T19:29:02Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He’s speaking in Greensboro, NC. So far, his evidence is “they lied.”  
> That’s it.

And how does he explain that in each case, the story has been[corroborated by independent third parties?](http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-sex-assault-stoynoff-mclaughlin-professor-1.3804809)

Oh right… Global conspiracy against Trump. That explains everything away.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2305 "2016-10-14T19:32:43Z")

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I think it’s time for democrats to start going for the jugular and start calling out republicans for being the gang rape party. Trump rapes women and everyone else just sadistically chugs, chants, and cheers it on.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2306 "2016-10-14T19:37:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The upper house of the New South Wales, Australia, Parliament unanimously passes a resolution calling Trump a “a revolting slug”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/slugs-and-trump?utm_term=.tdwv76pJD#.uk0Ml3PvY)

Even the [ICE](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/27/no-the-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-did-not-endorse-trump.html) does not want to prevent the stink. 🙂

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2307 "2016-10-14T19:39:24Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And how does he explain that in each case, the story has been[corroborated by independent third parties?](http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-sex-assault-stoynoff-mclaughlin-professor-1.3804809)
> 
> Oh right… Global conspiracy against Trump. That explains everything away.

He’ll double down on “they lied.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2308 "2016-10-14T19:41:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Trump is only four points ahead of Hillary in Texas. _Texas_, for crissakes!: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/14/donald-trumps-lead-in-deep-red-texas-is-shrinking/21582996/)

Ahem: [Texas Barely GOP?!?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807320)

😃

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2309 "2016-10-14T19:46:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Trump is only four points ahead of Hillary in Texas. _Texas_, for crissakes!: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/14/donald-trumps-lead-in-deep-red-texas-is-shrinking/21582996/)  
> I think they must have held a séance and actually summoned the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson.

Naah, Hunter would’ve had slightly less substance (but only slightly) and a lot more sardonicism.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2310 "2016-10-14T20:01:47Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Naah, Hunter would’ve had slightly less substance (but only slightly) and a lot more sardonicism.

And he would have thrown at least one “atavistic” in there somehow.

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**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2311 "2016-10-14T20:05:51Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Sure, I get that. But it could only be Pence or Kaine, since they would be the top two. The Senate couldn’t make McMullin Vice-President, which is what **RickJay** seemed to be suggesting.

The idea, per Nate Silver’s discussion, is that the Senate’s choice of either Pence or Kaine might encourage the opposing party in the House to make a deal with McMullin, instead of allowing Pence/Kaine to step up.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2312 "2016-10-14T20:06:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Where its welcome: wherever. Whoever, whatever.  
> Be it Alice, or Doris or Daisy  
> But not in a blender, it’ll neutral your gender!  
> And don’t stick your dick in the crazy! **NO**!  
> Don’t stick your dick in the crazy!

In TrumpLand, crazy sticks its dick in YOU!

(Or will at least try, if you’re female, whether you want it or not.)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2313 "2016-10-14T20:12:42Z")

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> **[Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse - Donald Trump's "Locker Room Talk" - The...](https://www.cc.com/video/ykwlrj/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-jordan-klepper-fingers-the-pulse-donald-trump-s-locker-room-talk)**
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> Jordan Klepper gauges how Donald Trump's base is affected by his misogynistic "locker room talk."

From The Daily Show last night. This is what the country would be like if Trump was elected. Deplorables believing it’s acceptable to be deplorable anytime, anywhere.

Got to love the guy who doesn’t want to say “pussy” in front of his daughter who is wearing a “Trump that Bitch” t-shirt. :smack: And the last word from Klepper to the guy who says he’s not dumb. “You’re dumb if you think your wife thinks anyone else would fuck you”.

If it wasn’t so scary, it really would be funny. But these people are becoming more emboldened as Trump spirals out of control.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2314 "2016-10-14T20:13:25Z")

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I think Clinton needs to go after sooner of Trump’s verbal ticks. Like, “Every time he says, ‘Believe me’ or ‘Let me tell you’ that means he’s lying through his teeth.” If those undecided voters then listen to any of his tirades or proclamations it’ll be very noticeable and associated with lying.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2315 "2016-10-14T20:17:26Z")

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> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#):
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> I don’t even know where to [file this](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/oct/14/trump-women-sexual-misconduct-election-live?page=with:block-58012f88e4b01ffb8ffcbba6#block-58012f88e4b01ffb8ffcbba6)

Heck, I hardly know how to parse it.

But the short answer to the question posed by Mr. Trump here is _because Barack Obama is not a revolting slug who creeps on every woman within arm’s reach._

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2316 "2016-10-14T20:24:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Some great lines in this [Rolling Stone article:](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-fury-and-failure-of-donald-trump-w444943)
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> On the field of GOP hopefuls that Trump beat:  
> On Trump suckers/supporters:  
> On covering Trump this campaign:

Great stuff – love it. Without even looking, I knew who’d written that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2317 "2016-10-14T20:47:30Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Heck, I hardly know how to parse it.
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> But the short answer to the question posed by Mr. Trump here is _because Barack Obama is not a revolting slug who creeps on every woman within arm’s reach._

Can’t be.

Because in Trump’s mind, EVERY MAN will try to stick his hand up a woman’s skirt, or grab her and kiss her against her will. Because The Donald thinks this is normal behavior, and every man does it. So it stands to reason (he thinks) that Obama must have done this multiple times. Because why not.

He thinks that the only reason he is being called on this behavior is because of the horrible massive global conspiracy against him.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2318 "2016-10-14T20:50:09Z")

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Donald Trump, speaking at a rally about the criticism that he loomed over Clinton or invaded her space at the debate:

> [@The Motherfucking Republican Nominee for Motherfucking President of the United States](#):
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> “She walks in front of me, you know? And when she walked in front of me, believe me, I wasn’t impressed.”

So, rest easy, Mrs. Clinton. You are not hot enough for Donald Trump to want to rape you. See, no problem!

> **[Trump Body Shames Clinton, Too! ‘I Wasn’t Impressed, Believe Me’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-wasnt-impressed-with-clinton)**
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> Donald Trump appeared to insult Hillary Clinton's physical appearance at a rally in Greensboro, North Carolina, Friday, saying he "wasn't impressed" when Clinton walked in front of him at Sunday'

I don’t have the link in front of me, but a guy on one of the Sunday news shows this week said Trump was a symptom of the “intellectual rot” at the center of the Republican party. i would lie kto add moral bankruptcy to that.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2319 "2016-10-14T21:02:01Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Donald Trump, speaking at a rally about the criticism that he loomed over Clinton or invaded her space at the debate:
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> So, rest easy, Mrs. Clinton. You are not hot enough for Donald Trump to want to rape you. See, no problem!
> 
> [Trump Body Shames Clinton, Too! ‘I Wasn’t Impressed, Believe Me’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-wasnt-impressed-with-clinton)
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> I don’t have the link in front of me, but a guy on one of the Sunday news shows this week said Trump was a symptom of the “intellectual rot” at the center of the Republican party. i would lie kto add moral bankruptcy to that.

We’re getting close to pulling the plug time. Big donors are already telling the GOP it’s over, and that they should save the congress.

I still think the GOP is pathetic no matter what these sniveling spineless cowards decide to do next.

**Remember this day, America. Remember the day that one half of America’s political system said that sexual assault was an acceptable price to pay for victory. Remember which half said it.**

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2320 "2016-10-14T21:05:30Z")

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[Mother Jones made at called The Good Old Days.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFZ-1EojoFM) Damn! It’s 7 months old and I’m only seeing it around now, not on TV, however. Has anyone else see it?

It probably won’t get much play as everybody is focused on the misogynistic part of the racist, xenophobic, ignorant, misogynistic package. Still, damn!

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2321 "2016-10-14T21:05:34Z")

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Anyone want to make any realistic predictions about Trump’s speech after a Clinton victory (traditionally called a “concession speech”, but let’s be real, a traditional concession is unlikely) is going to look like?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2322 "2016-10-14T21:10:15Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I still think the GOP is pathetic no matter what these sniveling spineless cowards decide to do next.

A half-century of dog-whistling, and they have _no idea_ how they got overrun with snarling rabid dogs. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :smack:

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2323 "2016-10-14T21:18:01Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I think Clinton needs to go after sooner of Trump’s verbal ticks. Like, “Every time he says, ‘Believe me’ or ‘Let me tell you’ that means he’s lying through his teeth.” If those undecided voters then listen to any of his tirades or proclamations it’ll be very noticeable and associated with lying.

The problem (or solution?) is, he’s lying even when he doesn’t say them.

Donald Trump, the Paw and Disorder candidate

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