# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2364 "2016-10-15T00:04:30Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > My mom, still a die hard Trump supporter/voter, said something today that kinda made me wonder about his base. I commented about how he was going down in the polls and it was looking less and less likely that he’d win. She basically said something to the likes of, well even if she does win she’ll be dead within a month anyway. > > Is idea something all Trump supporters are trying to ‘comfort’ themselves with? Is there some talk going around the Trump camp about how someone’s bound to take out Hillary if she wins? I found it more than a little disturbing hearing it come from my mother and honestly, I’m almost hoping other people ARE saying this too. Just so I can have the reassurance she’s not completely fucked up. You heard her coughing. She had pneumonia in freaking summery September. Her health is failing. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2365 "2016-10-15T00:05:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > [Well, here is Trump’s "proof](http://www.theatlantic.com/liveblogs/2016/10/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations/503969/)" that he did not assault any women at any time: > > His campaign has dug up a guy who claims he was on the flight with Trump and Jessica Leeds, and didn’t see a thing wrong. In fact, he claims that “she wanted to marry him.” > > The dude has no evidence that he was even on the flight - and even got the years wrong. He would have been 18 or 19 at the time, and cannot explain what he was doing on the flight, or why he would have been in 1st class. Oh, and another small matter - he also has claimed that he helped procure underage boys for senior members of Margaret Thatcher’s government during an annual conference for Britain’s Conservative Party. > > So… The Trump campaign has come up with a nutter who is telling a story with no evidence whatsoever to back it up. Wait, didn’t he just say that he [never met these people and doesn’t know who they are](http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/14/trump-denies-allegations/)? And now all of a sudden he pulls out this alleged “witness”? Got to keep your stories straight there, Don. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2366 "2016-10-15T00:05:02Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Didn’t the Murdoch papers endorse him? I coulda sworn the WSJ or NY Post did. The NY post, National Enquirer, New York Observer and Santa Barbara News-Press endorsed Trump **during the primaries**. As for the Wall Street Journal, they have not endorsed anyone for president since 1928. However I would not be surprised to see them go for “Not Donald Trump” this time around. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2367 "2016-10-15T00:05:59Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > She basically said something to the likes of, well even if she does win she’ll be dead within a month anyway. > > Is idea something all Trump supporters are trying to ‘comfort’ themselves with? Is there some talk going around the Trump camp about how someone’s bound to take out Hillary if she wins? I found it more than a little disturbing hearing it come from my mother and honestly, I’m almost hoping other people ARE saying this too. Just so I can have the reassurance she’s not completely fucked up. They [were saying this](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-campaign-official-claims-hillary-clinton-will-die-within-a-year-a7207801.html), but not about someone killing her, about the health concerns they were trying to raise in September. I won’t speak ill of someone’s mother, so you’ll have to draw your own conclusions about her mental state. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2368 "2016-10-15T00:07:34Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > My mom, still a die hard Trump supporter/voter, said something today that kinda made me wonder about his base. I commented about how he was going down in the polls and it was looking less and less likely that he’d win. She basically said something to the likes of, well even if she does win she’ll be dead within a month anyway. > > Is idea something all Trump supporters are trying to ‘comfort’ themselves with? Is there some talk going around the Trump camp about how someone’s bound to take out Hillary if she wins? I found it more than a little disturbing hearing it come from my mother and honestly, I’m almost hoping other people ARE saying this too. Just so I can have the reassurance she’s not completely fucked up. People said the same thing about Obama when he was elected, and probably still are. He’s still walking around. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2369 "2016-10-15T00:07:49Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You heard her coughing. She had pneumonia in freaking summery September. Her health is failing. You’re still banging that drum? Sorry buddy - the “failing health” crappola is last months story. Try to keep up with the current smear, OK? Today, she is a powerful woman, in charge of the Vast Global Conspiracy against Trump. She’s has super evil powers. The “pneumonia” was just a clever feint. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2370 "2016-10-15T00:08:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I would not be at all surprised if this is what they’re trying to produce… especially given the fact that Trump specializes in projection. > > And it is perfectly possible that the 4 ladies that Trump paraded about before the 2nd debate are all on the Trump payroll in some fashion. I don’t think they’re doing all of this for free at any rate. We already know that [Kathy Shelton was paid at least $2500 by Roger Stone: > [@](#): > > The May payment to Shelton by the Committee to Restore America’s Greatness PAC, founded by Stone, was described as “contract labor” in campaign finance reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. Asked by The Associated Press about the reason for the payment, Stone said in an email that Shelton “was extensively interviewed on video about her experience with Hillary Clinton and was paid for her time.” ]([http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-ally-paid-sexual-assault-victim-critical-clinton-42688766](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-ally-paid-sexual-assault-victim-critical-clinton-42688766)) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2371 "2016-10-15T00:10:47Z")
> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#): > > Wait, didn’t he just say that he [never met these people and doesn’t know who they are](http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/14/trump-denies-allegations/)? And now all of a sudden he pulls out this alleged “witness”? > > Got to keep your stories straight there, Don. It’s like the Jon Lovitz character on SNL: "I was never even on that plane. Ya that’s the ticket! And when I sat beside her on the plane, that was someone else’s hand up her skirt. Ya, that’s right. Someone else. And here’s a guy who swears she was wearing a pantsuit. So it couldn’t have been me, see? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2372 "2016-10-15T00:12:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > We already know that [Kathy Shelton was paid at least $2500 by Roger Stone:](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-ally-paid-sexual-assault-victim-critical-clinton-42688766) Well, thanks for that! Someone should (gently, kindly) ask the Trump Ladies if they have been paid any money or other compensation at any time in the past year by Trump or Trump business or any PAC’s or anyone associated in any way with the Trump campaign. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2373 "2016-10-15T00:12:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You’re still banging that drum? Sorry buddy - the “failing health” crappola is last months story. Try to keep up with the current smear, OK? > > Today, she is a powerful woman, in charge of the Vast Global Conspiracy against Trump. She’s has super evil powers. The “pneumonia” was just a clever feint. This comment was made in the context of **AngelSoft** ’s mom saying that Hillary will be dead soon after she’s elected and wondering what she meant. YOU keep up, okay? I personally think Hillary will be in serious physical danger from a pissed-off Trump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2374 "2016-10-15T00:14:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This comment was made in the context of **AngelSoft** ’s mom saying that Hillary will be dead soon after she’s elected and wondering what she meant. YOU keep up, okay? > > I personally think Hillary will be in serious physical danger from a pissed-off Trump supporter. Sounded like he was \*promoting \*that particular brand of ill-health BS. Apologies if this was not in fact the case. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2375 "2016-10-15T00:17:25Z")
> [@](#): > > I personally think Hillary will be in serious physical danger from a pissed-off Trump supporter. There were people who though Obama might get attempts on his life, too. Thankfully, as far I know, there were none that got that close to fruition. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2376 "2016-10-15T00:22:13Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > There were people who though Obama might get attempts on his life, too. Thankfully, as far I know, there were none that got that close to fruition. That’s only because he outlawed guns by executive order! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2377 "2016-10-15T00:28:38Z")
I just want to show off my sweet, sweet new caganers! [Hillary & Trump caganers 1](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/snowboarderbo/49801298420__DF29ADD2-135B-4637-AEFE-9BACE80E6AFF.JPG.jpeg) [Hillary & Trump caganers 2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/snowboarderbo/49801299766__B8FFD414-3DC3-4D56-B606-DA6D2B96C666.JPG.jpeg) (prolly NSFW, exactly) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2378 "2016-10-15T00:41:45Z")
Now I know what a “caganer” is. You can learn darn near anything and everything if you hang out here long enough. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2379 "2016-10-15T00:45:51Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s only because he outlawed guns by executive order! Lol. Seriously, though, I don’t know how I missed [this story](http://bangordailynews.com/2009/02/10/politics/report-dirty-bomb-parts-found-in-slain-mans-home/) when it happened. I guess just because it wound up being nothing when his wife killed him. Heck, you’ve even got WikiLeaks involved, and yet I don’t recall this being major news at all. Not even sure how much of the “dirty bomb” speculation is true. Though perhaps the lack of attention was best. The wife got a suspended sentence, btw. I think she could have raised a hell of a lot of media attention had that gone worse for her. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2380 "2016-10-15T00:48:11Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sounded like he was \*promoting \*that particular brand of ill-health BS. Apologies if this was not in fact the case. I thought he was being ironic/sarcastic. But I see your point. > [@Tzigone](#): > > There were people who though Obama might get attempts on his life, too. Thankfully, as far I know, there were none that got that close to fruition. Sadly, things have gotten worse since then. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2381 "2016-10-15T00:50:33Z")
If Trump’s campaign sinks any lower, even Putin is going to take back his endorsement. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2382 "2016-10-15T00:55:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If Trump’s campaign sinks any lower, even Putin is going to take back his endorsement. Nope, Putin fears Hillary too much for that ever to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2383 "2016-10-15T00:59:33Z")
I should be surprised by this, but then again, not at all: [QUOTE=Donald Jehovah Trump] As you have seen, I am a victim of one of the great political smear campaigns in the history of our country. They are coming after me to try and destroy what is considered by even them the greatest movement in the history of our country, there’s never been anything like this. [/QUOTE] Nice to see he places himself above abolition, women’s rights, civil rights, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=118) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=120)