# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 135
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2684 "2016-10-17T10:05:57Z")
I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2685 "2016-10-17T10:24:14Z")
Are there any newspapers supporting the claim that the 2000 or 2004 elections were rigged? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2686 "2016-10-17T10:55:13Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help? Ooooooooooops. I’m sorry. I forgot (like millions of others) that the election is still some three weeks away. Silly me. Tee-Hee. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2687 "2016-10-17T11:39:01Z")
My one concern with Hillary at this upcoming debate is the possibility of her not wanting to do this. I remember Obama’s first debate with Romney in 2012 when people could tell his heart wasn’t into it. He seemed distracted. Hillary’s so far up in the polls now that she might start to get bored. Hopefully the candidate will keep her on her toes and motivate her to prepare. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2688 "2016-10-17T11:53:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I wonder how long Trump’s toxicity-by-association will last. We’d like to think that those who stood by him will poison candidates forever, but I don’t know that I trust the electorate to keep too long of a memory. The next midterms? Sure. 2020? I’m dubious. > > At some point, Democrat attempts to play video of so-and-so defending Trump or campaigning with Trump will just look like desperate attempts to avoid current issues. I doubt those who stood by Trump will be harmed at all - certainly not those who merely chose not to inflict damage on their candidate. If they can survive the Trump voter revolt, they’ll be viewed as loyal republicans without having actually sunk their candidate. That Trump is becoming an increasingly discredited candidate is a marginal consequence. Republicans have invited these stray dogs called Tea Party voters into their house and now they’re tearing up the furniture, shitting all over the floor, and growling at anyone who attempts to throw them out. What really needs to happen is that these voters themselves need to become so unattractive that nobody really wants their vote. They need to be marginalized in society, like the violent pro-segregation bigots of the south finally became after the 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2689 "2016-10-17T11:54:02Z")
I don’t think the debates matter at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2690 "2016-10-17T12:08:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Hillary’s so far up in the polls now that she might start to get bored. Hopefully the candidate will keep her on her toes and motivate her to prepare. I’m not concerned. Her programmers will just ratchet up her enthusiasm quotient by another 30% or so. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2691 "2016-10-17T12:19:37Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > My one concern with Hillary at this upcoming debate is the possibility of her not wanting to do this. I remember Obama’s first debate with Romney in 2012 when people could tell his heart wasn’t into it. He seemed distracted. Hillary’s so far up in the polls now that she might start to get bored. Hopefully the candidate will keep her on her toes and motivate her to prepare. There is no human being who has ever wanted anything in all of human history the way the Hillary has wanted to be president. The chances of her letting up now and coasting the last three weeks are roughly the same as a starving lion taking a pass on a slow fat gazelle. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2692 "2016-10-17T12:31:33Z")
Trump’s at it again and this promises to be another epic meltdown. Three tweets in the last 10 minutes, one of which is linking a video that he’s claiming shows Biden being creepy (It doesn’t really) and another one responding to Prison Planet (Eg Alex Jones) with an article he thinks discredits one of his accusers (it doesn’t). Breaks out popcorn… He’s losing it. The fact that he thinks the Biden video he’s linked as somehow equivalent to “grab them in the pussy” will backfire big time I think, it’s just going to appall more people. Just in case he deletes the Tweet he was linking to this video: > **[On-Air Schedule - 710 WOR](https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/on-air/)** > > Get the Latest Info! ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2693 "2016-10-17T12:38:20Z")
Oh this is too good, comedy gold. Just now: “We have all got to come together and win this election. We can’t have four more years of Obama (or worse!).” Um, no Mr Trump we can’t… your point is? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2694 "2016-10-17T12:39:37Z")
“Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!” > ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2695 "2016-10-17T12:51:08Z")
Is anyone else taking pleasure in the mental image of Ivanka pleading with him “please daddy put the phone down, no more tweets right now” while he rages incoherently? Looks to me like he’s finally got to the point where he can’t deny the polls any longer, he admits “Can’t believe these totally phoney stories, 100% made up by women (many already proven false) and pushed big time by press, have impact!”. So he knows that they’ve had an impact and he’s down big time. Is it possible a shred of self awareness is growing in his brain that maybe, just maybe, actions have consequences? Nah! ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2696 "2016-10-17T13:08:03Z")
Can that guy stop molesting grammar and spelling and raping syntax already?! Lawd! My eyes and ears hurt. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2697 "2016-10-17T13:22:22Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Can that guy stop molesting grammar and spelling and raping syntax already?! Lawd! My eyes and ears hurt. I hate to defend Donald Trump, but in all honesty, I myself often struggle with the whole 140 characters thing. I’ve gone with some functional but inartful edits that I immediately regretted. #TwitterIsRigged #CrookedHillary ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2698 "2016-10-17T13:26:25Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I hate to defend Donald Trump, but in all honesty, I myself often struggle with the whole 140 characters thing. I’ve gone with some functional but inartful edits that I immediately regretted. > #TwitterIsRigged > #CrookedHillary Yes, but he uses that style in his speeches, too. Ms Clinton speaks in sentences & paragraphs. Which is not a good method of sloganeering, but works well for getting information across. As if anyone cared about something so non-sexy… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2699 "2016-10-17T13:27:18Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2700 "2016-10-17T13:32:53Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help? > [@adaher](#): > > Are there any newspapers supporting the claim that the 2000 or 2004 elections were rigged? Why, did the Democratic nominee in either of those elections claim those elections were rigged? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2701 "2016-10-17T13:40:46Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Yes, but he uses that style in his speeches, too. This. He speaks in tweets. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2702 "2016-10-17T13:45:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > How many of ISIS’ “fighters” are conscripts? Would anyone be surprised if volunteering to fight might ensure that one’s family was safe from suspicion? I wouldn’t expect that to make one’s family safe from suspicion, but it could avoid an immediate threat. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2703 "2016-10-17T13:49:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Okay, what the hell is Daily News Bin? Do the sprinkle satire or distortion into some of their stories? Many of the headlines on the main page look legit, but [Trump tears apart his word-machine at a rally](http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trump-has-total-meltdown-at-rally-begins-physically-ripping-his-teleprompter-apart/26313/) just seems weird. I mean they do not even speculate that he must have been upset to discover that it was out of croutons. I can’t comment on the site you’re reading but Trump did, in fact, take apart his teleprompter during a rally, saying that it wasn’t working and he wouldn’t pay the company that provided it and he had more fun without it anyway. He also said the speakers weren’t working so he wasn’t going to pay for the venue either (or would take hefty deduction). Was a couple days ago and, at the time, there were plenty of videos of it on Twitter. Now stuff like “Has total meltdown!” seems like a bit of editorial liberty but the basic facts are accurate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=134) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=136)