# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2704 "2016-10-17T13:49:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There was a firebombing of a Republican office in North Carolina today, and somebody wrote graffiti on the ruins, “Nazi Republicans leave town or else". Trump immediately claimed Hillary was responsible, and the deplorables are out claiming that she ordered the attack. No explanation from them as to what she would have gained from it. [Democrats immediately raised over $13,000 to rebuild the office.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-raise-funds-north-carolina-republican-firebombed-office_us_580430eee4b0162c043cb7e1)
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> [Hillary’s latest ad links Trump to Alex Jones.](https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787748100324503552/video/1)

I find this extremely troubling – political violence is unheard of in this country. I hope to God that we haven’t crossed a line and are now a full-fledged banana republic.

On the other hand – I know this sounds like right-wing bat-shit conspiracy-theory stuff, but I could totally believe it if this was a false flag operation.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2705 "2016-10-17T13:52:34Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I find this extremely troubling – political violence is unheard of in this country.

Oh really? :dubious:

> **[1968 Democratic National Convention](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention)**
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> The 1968 Democratic National Convention was held August 26–29 at the International Amphitheatre in Chicago, Illinois, United States. Earlier that year incumbent President Lyndon B. Johnson had announced he would not seek reelection, thus making the purpose of the convention to select a new presidential nominee for the Democratic Party. The keynote speaker was Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii. Vice President Hubert Humphrey and Senator Edmund Muskie of Maine were nominated for president and v The...

Then of course there was the various bombing attacks carried out by the Weathermen as political protest.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2706 "2016-10-17T13:55:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help?

Not that I know of. Even the Republican Speaker of the House, and Trump’s own running mate, deny that the election is rigged.

> [@adaher](#):
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> I don’t think the debates matter at this point.

I disagree. A poor showing by Hillary could make it a much closer race. I don’t want to take that chance, and I’m sure she and her team don’t want to, either.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> …I know this sounds like right-wing bat-shit conspiracy-theory stuff, but I could totally believe it if this was a false flag operation.

I had the same thought.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2707 "2016-10-17T14:16:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help?

Yeah. Search among the ones who have endorsed Trump.

😃

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2708 "2016-10-17T14:17:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> [QUOTE=jsc1953]  
> …I know this sounds like right-wing bat-shit conspiracy-theory stuff, but I could totally believe it if this was a false flag operation.

I had the same thought.  
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As did I, especially after hearing Dallas “Goat-fucker” Woodhouse on NPR this morning.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2709 "2016-10-17T14:31:32Z")

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[California Democrats raise $13,000 to help rebuild firebombed GOP office](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/democrats-raise-thirteen-thousand-north-carolina-republican-party-office-firebombed).

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2710 "2016-10-17T14:31:40Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I had the same thought.

Me too, specially because the graffiti message they left was so dumb.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2711 "2016-10-17T14:34:30Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I’m looking, but cannot find, a newspaper that actually supports Trumps claim that the election is rigged. Any help?

Of course there isn’t. But Trump today attacked the “Republican leaders” for not believing his claims (on twitter along with three more attacks directly naming Paul Ryan yesterday). So much for the idea that maybe Trump would have a rapprochement with the rest of the GOP before election day.

You know if you set out to destroy the republican party I’m not sure you could possibly do a better job than Trump has done… Makes you wonder…

PS, no more tweets in the last two hours, looks like someone took his phone away… awwwww… spoilsport.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2712 "2016-10-17T14:38:16Z")

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Trumpkins!!!: [People are getting on the 'Trumpkin' train this Halloween - nj.com](http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/10/trumpkin_pumpkins_halloween_2016.html)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2713 "2016-10-17T14:39:16Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Of course there isn’t. But Trump today attacked the “Republican leaders” for not believing his claims (on twitter along with three more attacks directly naming Paul Ryan yesterday). So much for the idea that maybe Trump would have a rapprochement with the rest of the GOP before election day.
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> You know if you set out to destroy the republican party I’m not sure you could possibly do a better job than Trump has done… Makes you wonder…

Don’t you mean “… a better job than Hillary has done”?

[http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-clinton-campaign-elevating-trump/](http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-clinton-campaign-elevating-trump/)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2714 "2016-10-17T14:51:08Z")

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I dont know if this has been posted yet…

[Trump’s son-in-law looking into setting up Trump TV network.](https://www.ft.com/content/7dc39954-940e-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582)

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2715 "2016-10-17T14:57:31Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Don’t you mean “… a better job than Hillary has done”?
> 
> [http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-clinton-campaign-elevating-trump/](http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-clinton-campaign-elevating-trump/)

Well I certainly don’t take anything serious nowadays that is claimed to come from Putin’s mouthpiece, Assange, without some serious additional evidence. You realise anyone can write an email and claim it’s from anyone? Mix it in with a real batch for added believability.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2716 "2016-10-17T15:03:19Z")

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I was kind of joking with that one. 😉

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2717 "2016-10-17T15:07:07Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I dont know if this has been posted yet…
> 
> [Trump’s son-in-law looking into setting up Trump TV network.](https://www.ft.com/content/7dc39954-940e-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582)

I’m still trying to figure out who is going to write 9-figure checks to support a TV network lead by a 70yo overweight conman who’s life expectancy is better measured in years, not decades. There’s not a lot of time to recoup that investment.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2718 "2016-10-17T15:14:48Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I was kind of joking with that one. 😉

It certainly makes sense to want to face Trump though.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2719 "2016-10-17T15:22:31Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I’m still trying to figure out who is going to write 9-figure checks to support a TV network lead by a 70yo overweight conman who’s life expectancy is better measured in years, not decades. There’s not a lot of time to recoup that investment.

Seems like Trump Jr is hateful enough to take over the mantle.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2720 "2016-10-17T15:24:11Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Seems like Trump Jr is hateful enough to take over the mantle.

Given, as I’ve stated before, he already looks like the unholy love child of Nosferatu and Draco Malfoy, he should fit right in.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2721 "2016-10-17T15:48:14Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> …  
> PS, no more tweets in the last two hours, looks like someone took his phone away… awwwww… spoilsport.

Like I said a couple days ago:

The man’s gotta sleep sometime. 8am to 10am is as good as any. In fact, it’s the BEST time to sleep after a hard night spent tweeting & tweaking.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2722 "2016-10-17T15:48:47Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> Ms Clinton speaks in sentences & paragraphs. Which is not a good method of sloganeering, but works well for getting information across. As if anyone cared about something so non-sexy…

Hey, c’mom, she’s still kinda hottish.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2723 "2016-10-17T15:54:22Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Oh really? :dubious:  
> [1968 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention)
> 
> Then of course there was the various bombing attacks carried out by the Weathermen as political protest.

Of course there have been violent political protests, but they were carried out in support of a cause: anti-war, anti-abortion, civil rights. But before this, there has never been an attack on a political _party_.

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