# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 137
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2724 "2016-10-17T16:29:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m still trying to figure out who is going to write 9-figure checks to support a TV network lead by a 70yo overweight conman who’s life expectancy is better measured in years, not decades. There’s not a lot of time to recoup that investment. Perhaps it’s meant as a legacy for the Trump offspring. Ivanka’s husband is apparently directly involved; she could be a significant draw to a Trump Network. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2725 "2016-10-17T16:31:30Z")
Maybe. That’s still a lot of jack to spend, work to do, etc, all for a woman who probably doesn’t want to be a Right Wing spokespiece in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2726 "2016-10-17T16:41:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Maybe. That’s still a lot of jack to spend, work to do, etc, all for a woman who probably doesn’t want to be a Right Wing spokespiece in the first place. She may view it as a platform for her brand, clothes, site etc. The other Trumplings may use it to primarily promote right wing ideology- she may not. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2727 "2016-10-17T17:10:35Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > [California Democrats raise $13,000 to help rebuild firebombed GOP office](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/democrats-raise-thirteen-thousand-north-carolina-republican-party-office-firebombed). Trump tweeted: > [@](#): > > Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina just firebombed our office in Orange County because we are winning @NCGOP Is anyone else reminded of [the 2008 case of the Rep girl who staged her own mugging and carved a B in her cheek?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax)That, too, happened two weeks for an election. > [@](#): > > In October 2008, Ashley Todd, a volunteer for the U.S. presidential campaign of Republican John McCain, falsely claimed to have been the victim of robbery and politically motivated physical assault by a supporter of McCain’s Democratic opponent Barack Obama. … Todd later confessed to inventing the story after surveillance photos and a polygraph test were presented. She was charged with filing a false police report, and entered a probation program for first-time offenders. > > …Todd claimed that she was robbed at knifepoint by a “six-foot-four African American of medium build, dressed in dark clothes wearing shiny shoes” … after the robber saw a McCain bumper sticker on Todd’s car, he assaulted her, cut a reversed letter B into her cheek, and told her “you are going to be a Barack supporter.” > Todd’s story received international attention, including prominent coverage on Drudge Report and Fox News. John Moody, executive vice president at Fox News, commented in a blog on the network’s website that “this incident could become a watershed event in the 11 days before the election,” but also warned that “\*f the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.” ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2728 "2016-10-17T17:21:44Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > She may view it as a platform for her brand, clothes, site etc. The other Trumplings may use it to primarily promote right wing ideology- she may not. Yep, Trump Jr is the new demagogue, the other male Trumplets do their machinations in the background and she does occasional fluff pieces on air and promotes her clothing, perfume, jewelry etc. Let’s hope they go out of business just as fast as Trump Steaks and Trump’s airline did… ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2729 "2016-10-17T17:29:33Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > Trump tweeted: > Is anyone else reminded of [the 2008 case of the Rep girl who staged her own mugging and carved a B in her cheek?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax)That, too, happened two weeks for an election. Yeah, that’s what I thought as well. The phrasing of the graffiti seems odd to me. “Nazi Republicans get out or else … because we liberals want to smoke legal marijuana cigarettes and force abortions on all Christian women.” ---
**Author:** ![Theodore\_Striker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Theodore\_Striker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theodore_Striker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2730 "2016-10-17T17:29:47Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > My one concern with Hillary at this upcoming debate is the possibility of her not wanting to do this. I remember Obama’s first debate with Romney in 2012 when people could tell his heart wasn’t into it. He seemed distracted. Hillary’s so far up in the polls now that she might start to get bored. Hopefully the candidate will keep her on her toes and motivate her to prepare. At this point, I think that she not only wants to beat Trump, she wants to humiliate him and the Republican party. I refuse to believe that after all of the crap that the other side has tried to sling at her, Hillary does not have the thought of bringing the reckoning down upon the republicans or their figurehead. I don’t think there will be a let up now, I think there will be a pouring on in an attempt to not only destroy Trump, but also to influence right side voters to stay home because the cause is so lost. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2731 "2016-10-17T17:52:41Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I dont know if this has been posted yet… > > [Trump’s son-in-law looking into setting up Trump TV network.](https://www.ft.com/content/7dc39954-940e-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582) Fox News better be very afraid. The new Trump Network has the potential to carve off about 50% of the Fox viewership - the nuttier half. All Trump has to do is proclaim that Fox News is part of the vast left wing media conspiracy, and his supporters will simply believe it. No evidence needed. Can FoxNews survive without the far right wing crazies? I don’t think so. It would probably be in the best interests of FoxNews to try to crush this little endeavour before it starts. Time for them to start making fun of Trumps "rigged election " claims. Or simply call Trump’s bloviating what it really is; subversive, anti-democratic and dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2732 "2016-10-17T18:16:32Z")
More power to 'em! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2733 "2016-10-17T18:18:24Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fox News better be very afraid. The new Trump Network has the potential to carve off about 50% of the Fox viewership - the nuttier half. All Trump has to do is proclaim that Fox News is part of the vast left wing media conspiracy, and his supporters will simply believe it. No evidence needed. > > Can FoxNews survive without the far right wing crazies? I don’t think so. > > It would probably be in the best interests of FoxNews to try to crush this little endeavour before it starts. Time for them to start making fun of Trumps "rigged election " claims. Or simply call Trump’s bloviating what it really is; subversive, anti-democratic and dangerous. And of course, the GOP can’t smugly and safely put the Trump debacle behind them if he keeps stirring the shit and making his followers increasingly angry at not only a Clinton presidency, but a Republican party which they see as having betrayed their fearless leader. He’s the grift that keeps on giving. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2734 "2016-10-17T18:19:33Z")
A local Democratic candidate for Congress is running ads attacking the Republican incumbent by linking him to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2735 "2016-10-17T18:38:39Z")
Yeah, a lot of them are doing that. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2736 "2016-10-17T18:45:26Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fox News better be very afraid. The new Trump Network has the potential to carve off about 50% of the Fox viewership - the nuttier half. All Trump has to do is proclaim that Fox News is part of the vast left wing media conspiracy, and his supporters will simply believe it. No evidence needed. The Trump Network wouldn’t carve off 15% if that. Actually, if they could do that I’d be really amazed. It would be no more a threat to Fox News than Alex Jones’s crazypants show is. I mean, uh, how many of Trump’s business enterprises succeed long term if they aren’t skyscrapers or golf courses? Eaten a Trump Steak lately? Taken any courses at Trump University? Trump doesn’t know any more about running a news network than he does about selling steaks. Fox News is merely part - a SMALL part - of the Fox Entertainment Group supercorporation, a company with more broadcasting and content generation talent than Donald Trump has ever met, which makes more money in a good quarter than Trump has ever had at one time. His trying to compete with them would be like you and I slapping together a baseball team of the best athletes we knew and then telling Major League Baseball we were ready to play their best squads. Anyway, who says Trump will remain popular? His schtick is that he A WINNER, after all. He’s fabulous, the best, just the best candidate, terrific. But it’s becoming increasingly likely that on November 9 he will wake up a LOSER. His fans will be disillusioned. If Trump can’t work miracles, they’ll look for a new Messiah. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2737 "2016-10-17T18:59:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Given, as I’ve stated before, he already looks like the unholy love child of Nosferatu and Draco Malfoy, he should fit right in. Nah, that’s Eric, not Jr. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2738 "2016-10-17T19:05:30Z")
I doubt very much that a network dedicated to the nuttiest of Conservatives could be commercially viable at all. They’d be so toxic that I doubt they’d be able to attract anything more than the same mix that Glenn Beck and Limbaugh get. Maybe less. Especially if Trump goes full Alt-Right with it. Sadly, the Simpson’s Fox Helicopter joke (“Not Racist, but #1 with racists”) would no longer be true, as an openly racist network emerges to cater to America’s Deplorables. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2739 "2016-10-17T19:18:23Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I dont know if this has been posted yet… > > [Trump’s son-in-law looking into setting up Trump TV network.](https://www.ft.com/content/7dc39954-940e-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582) You heard it here first. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2740 "2016-10-17T19:22:09Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > She may view it as a platform for her brand, clothes, site etc. The other Trumplings may use it to primarily promote right wing ideology- she may not. On NPR just now they were saying the Trump network might be by subscription, a la Netflix, Hulu, etc. Also, I see an ongoing shopping program. Perfect vehicle for Ivanka’s clothing and anything else the Trumpsters care to peddle-- hunting stuff, survivalist gear, home schooling products, electronics. The network will get a percentage, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2741 "2016-10-17T19:26:05Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The Trump Network wouldn’t carve off 15% if that. Actually, if they could do that I’d be really amazed. It would be no more a threat to Fox News than Alex Jones’s crazypants show is. > . Trump is still polling at 40%. 40%. Those people are going to want to be angry after the election. They will need more crazy. They will want the crazy ramped up to 11. Alex Jones and his crazypants show will likely by a foundation of the Trump Network. As will Limbaugh. And Hannity. And other lunatic conspiracy theorists. It will be ALL CRAZY, ALL THE TIME. It will be a spectacle. Racism will be embraced and not held back. You bigly overestimate the sanity of the New American Alt-Right. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2742 "2016-10-17T19:26:40Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I doubt very much that a network dedicated to the nuttiest of Conservatives could be commercially viable at all. Unless Trump can get people to pony up for web subscriptions. He could perhaps get enough [del]suckers[/del] subscribers to make such a venture self-sustaining, at least for a time. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2743 "2016-10-17T19:28:03Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Nah, that’s Eric, not Jr. Does anyone think Eric Trump looks like a younger version of the Nazi vampire from The Strain? Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=136) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=138)