# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 141
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2804 "2016-10-18T11:34:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > If there’s a negative Clinton story in the news, I predict another Trump-related bombshell will be dropped shortly to, er, trump it. You _know_ the Clinton campaign has binders full of [del]women[/del] scandals ready to go. I did notice that Melania Trump seemed to be dangling a red cloth in front of the bull by calling the Trump accusers liars. That’s not what I would be doing if I were in their position. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2805 "2016-10-18T11:35:23Z")
[http://trmp.news/#comingsoon](http://trmp.news/#comingsoon) ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2806 "2016-10-18T11:45:38Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [http://trmp.news/#comingsoon](http://trmp.news/#comingsoon) I hope he doesn’t plan on having Ailes in the office. The sexual harassment lawsuits alone might sink them. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2807 "2016-10-18T11:50:44Z")
You want undeniable evidence of Trump’s mental illness? Here it is. On the Stern show Trump gets the answer to a math question undeniably wrong and flat out insists he’s right to the point that Stern (obviously knowing him) just agrees with him and moves on. > **[Donald Trump, Ivanka, & Don Jr were asked very easy math problems. They...](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-files-watch-trumps-not-be-able-multiply-17-6/)** > > Still, Donald insists his wrong answer is correct. That is absolute pathological narcissm that you cannot admit you were wrong about anything at all. That would be a truly terrifying trait for POTUS to have, they need to listen to experts and revise their opinions based on a changing situation. And what the hell they went to Wharton and they don’t even know the method of doing 20x6 then subtracting 3x6? I was taught that in senior high school, its literally high school math. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2808 "2016-10-18T11:59:46Z")
(Please scroll down on the TRMP.NEWS link before commenting… just FYI) Also, this guy: [https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/788236889073614848?s=09](https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/788236889073614848?s=09) Steve Schmidt of MSNBC telling Brian Williams that the race is over. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2809 "2016-10-18T12:02:05Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [http://trmp.news/#comingsoon](http://trmp.news/#comingsoon) FYI, the board software accidentally cut off the bulk of your message, leaving only a link. Do you mind retyping the rest of your post, so we know why you thought this link was worth posting? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2810 "2016-10-18T12:34:34Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > You want undeniable evidence of Trump’s mental illness? Here it is. On the Stern show Trump gets the answer to a math question undeniably wrong and flat out insists he’s right to the point that Stern (obviously knowing him) just agrees with him and moves on. > > [The Trump Files: Watch Donald Not Be Able to Multiply 17 By 6 – Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-files-watch-trumps-not-be-able-multiply-17-6) > > That is absolute pathological narcissm that you cannot admit you were wrong about anything at all. That would be a truly terrifying trait for POTUS to have, they need to listen to experts and revise their opinions based on a changing situation. And what the hell they went to Wharton and they don’t even know the method of doing 20x6 then subtracting 3x6? I was taught that in senior high school, its literally high school math. :smack: All three Trumps were unable to answer the question (what is 17 times 6?) correctly. That’s astounding! ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2811 "2016-10-18T12:36:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > **Quartz** is (AFAIK) in the UK so, with very few exceptions, it _is_ illegal to own guns where he lives. Those “very few exceptions” (sic) include: collecting, target shooting, self-defense, security work, and hunting. What else are you supposed to use guns for, practicing BJs? ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2812 "2016-10-18T12:41:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > If there’s a negative Clinton story in the news, I predict another Trump-related bombshell will be dropped shortly to, er, trump it. You _know_ the Clinton campaign has binders full of [del]women[/del] scandals ready to go. Plus, we are currently a day and a half away from Trump losing another debate. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2813 "2016-10-18T12:43:16Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > “Quid pro quo” > > [FBI, State Department Say No Quid Pro Quo on Clinton Email](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-state-department-say-no-quid-pro-quo-clinton-email-n667926) > > This story seems to be bubbling up the last 24 hours. Looks like Trump’s negative news cycle might be coming to an end for a few days and Clinton might again be on the defensive. Ironically, it was an FBI FOIA dump, not Wikileaks, that did it. The simplified tick -tock of this, best I can tell is: Kennedy from State is engaged in discussions with various FBI staff about eliminating or reducing classified status of certain emails. FBI staffer A proposes a quid pro quo, based on getting more foreign agents. FBI staffer A goes to FBI staffer B, who is in a position to change the classification, and implies Kennedy has agreed to the quid pro quo. Staffer B says no can do. Kennedy continues to pressure, unsuccessfully, quid pro quo no longer being mentioned. So there is: No implication Kennedy proposed it, but Implication that Kennedy agreed to it, but It was not consummated. I think it’s way too far into the weeds to have any effect, but you can expect you will hear quid pro quo between now and the end of the week more than you would if you watched The Hangover 72 times in a row. Because the original quid pro quo repubs were pushing was pay-for-play at State involving foreign actors and the Clinton Foundation. So there no reason to expect they won’t just repeat the phrase ad nauseum. To me the optics are actually worse for the FBI than for Clinton/Kennedy/State, but I’m sane. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2814 "2016-10-18T12:45:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > (Please scroll down on the TRMP.NEWS link before commenting… just FYI) > > Also, this guy: [x.com](https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/788236889073614848?s=09) > > Steve Schmidt of MSNBC telling Brian Williams that the race is over. Steve Schmidt is going to be doing penance on MSNBC for the rest of his life for Sarah Palin. He said the race was done over a week ago on Meet The Press. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2815 "2016-10-18T12:51:27Z")
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2816 "2016-10-18T12:52:21Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > Steve Schmidt is going to be doing penance on MSNBC for the rest of his life for Sarah Palin. > > He said the race was done over a week ago on Meet The Press. I think he’s all right. For a Republican, he’s quite bright and well spoken. He has a far better relationship with reality than most Republicans (I’m looking at you, Kellyanne Conway) and is much less vomit-inducing than Hugh Hewitt. Unless something drastic happens, Hillary has the race won. We’re three weeks away from seeing the last of Trump on a daily basis and a day after that we don’t have to spend government money to protect his sorry ass. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2817 "2016-10-18T13:31:00Z")
Half the country might want to buy this T-shirt: [http://www.whatonearthcatalog.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?action=DETAIL&ITEM=CS4872](http://www.whatonearthcatalog.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?action=DETAIL&ITEM=CS4872) ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2818 "2016-10-18T13:41:04Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > The Hill reported that Josie Bahnke, Alaska’s director of elections, also reached out to the Republican National Committee, Paul Ryan, and the Alaska GOP, but no one responded in time to be included in the pamphlet." > > So the Trump campaign is the one who dropped the ball here. :eek: Hilary’s great conspiracy extends all the way into the GOP. No wonder she didn’t solve all the nation’s problems as a junior senator, it takes time to create a conspiracy this deep. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2819 "2016-10-18T13:46:06Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Those “very few exceptions” (sic) include: > collecting, > target shooting, > self-defense, > security work, > and hunting. > > What else are you supposed to use guns for, practicing BJs? That’s painting rather broadly - there are very heavy restrictions on ownership and use in all those categories (and I’d like a cite for “self-defense” - most handguns are banned outright apart from some pistols). I should add that I’m not considering NI, which has more relaxed gun laws, in my previous statement. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2820 "2016-10-18T14:20:32Z")
Trolling Trump in Arabic: [This Arabic billboard is massively trolling Donald Trump](http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/10/18/this-arabic-billboard-is-massively-trolling-donald-trump/21585771/) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2821 "2016-10-18T14:24:12Z")
Paul Ryan, the GOP’s deep thinker, [had some comments](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/14/paul_ryan_who_supports_donald_trump_lays_out_vision_for_future.html) about why Hillary shouldn’t be President: > [@](#): > > “What vision do Hillary Clinton and her party offer the people? They want what America that doesn’t stand out. They want an America that is ordinary. There’s a kind of a gloom and greyness to things. In the America they want, the driving force is the state. It is a place where government is taken away from the people, where we are ruled by our betters, a cold and unfeeling bureaucracy that replaces original thinking,” continued Ryan… > > “It is a place where the government twists the law and the constitution itself to suit its purposes. It is a place where liberty is always under assault, where passion, the very stuff of life is extinguished,” said Ryan. Man, what crap. I could say the first paragraph just as accurately about the menu at Bob Evans. Stuff like this is no more than gussied-up name-calling. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2822 "2016-10-18T14:55:03Z")
What the hell else is he going to say? His own party is running on gloom and doom and he hates his own Presidential candidate. I’ve no idea what the GOP has to sell at this point beyond “vote for us and we’ll refuse to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court.” That is quite literally the only coherent platform idea I can think of in their playbook, since none of Trump’s ideas can be assumed to be things he actually intends on doing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2823 "2016-10-18T16:35:50Z")
A Trump mailer showed a picture of a Muslim man as an example of how diverse his supporters are. Only the man doesn’t support Trump, and didn’t give permission to use his picture. [Oh yeah, and he’s not Muslim.](http://www.wthr.com/article/fishers-sikh-misidentified-as-muslim-trump-supporter-on-campaign-mailer) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=140) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=142)