# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 142
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2824 "2016-10-18T16:36:28Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What the hell else is he going to say? His own party is running on gloom and doom and he hates his own Presidential candidate. > > I’ve no idea what the GOP has to sell at this point beyond “vote for us and we’ll refuse to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court.” That is quite literally the only coherent platform idea I can think of in their playbook, since none of Trump’s ideas can be assumed to be things he actually intends on doing. Well, they have the Ryan budget with its magic asterisks, which I think we can assume Trump would sign if Congress passed it. But other than that and the Supreme Court, you’re right, and this is the GOP’s deep underlying problem: during the Obama years, they’ve become a post-policy party, opposing everything the Dems have to offer, but not really having any alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2825 "2016-10-18T16:39:31Z")
Another odd turn in the election. Hysteria over an artist’s statue of Hillary. People with no appreciation of the 1st Amendment tore it down within 3 hours. [http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/naked-statue-hillary-clinton-sparks-fight-manhattan-article-1.2834970](http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/naked-statue-hillary-clinton-sparks-fight-manhattan-article-1.2834970) Trump’s equally offensive statue has been up all summer. It didn’t generate the same angry response. AFAIK it’s still drawing visitors. > **[This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/naked-donald-trump-sculpture-indecline_n_57b5d9d0e4b034dc73260c94)** > > It seems the emperor "has no balls." This country’s hypocrisy and unequal treatment is incredible. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2826 "2016-10-18T16:41:18Z")
[Obama to Trump: “Stop Whining.”](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/obama-trumps-rigged-election-claim-whining-before-the-games-even-over/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![kflanaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@kflanaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kflanaga)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2827 "2016-10-18T16:46:58Z")
[QUOTE=aceplace57;19710118 Trump’s equally offensive statue has been up all summer. It didn’t generate the same angry response. AFAIK it’s still drawing visitors. > **[This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/naked-donald-trump-sculpture-indecline_n_57b5d9d0e4b034dc73260c94)** > > It seems the emperor "has no balls." This country’s hypocrisy and unequal treatment is incredible.[/QUOTE] [Has it?](https://news.artnet.com/art-world/nude-donald-trump-statue-removed-17752) ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2828 "2016-10-18T16:52:25Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Another odd turn in the election. > > Hysteria over an artist’s statue of Hillary. People with no appreciation of the 1st Amendment tore it down within 3 hours. > [SEE IT: Naked statue of Hillary Clinton in downtown Manhattan causes fight during morning commute – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/naked-statue-hillary-clinton-sparks-fight-manhattan-article-1.2834970) > > Trump’s equally offensive statue has been up all summer. It didn’t generate the same angry response. AFAIK it’s still drawing visitors. > [This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen | HuffPost Entertainment](http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b5d9d0e4b034dc73260c94) > > This country’s hypocrisy and unequal treatment is incredible. what does that have to do with the first amendment? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2829 "2016-10-18T16:53:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Another odd turn in the election. > > Hysteria over an artist’s statue of Hillary. People with no appreciation of the 1st Amendment tore it down within 3 hours. > [SEE IT: Naked statue of Hillary Clinton in downtown Manhattan causes fight during morning commute – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/naked-statue-hillary-clinton-sparks-fight-manhattan-article-1.2834970) > > Trump’s equally offensive statue has been up all summer. It didn’t generate the same angry response. AFAIK it’s still drawing visitors. > [This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen | HuffPost Entertainment](http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b5d9d0e4b034dc73260c94) > > This country’s hypocrisy and unequal treatment is incredible. > [@kflanaga](#): > > [Has it?](https://news.artnet.com/art-world/nude-donald-trump-statue-removed-17752) The original Huffpo article is from July, updated in Aug. ETA: the update was to note the removal of the statue. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2830 "2016-10-18T16:54:51Z")
The Trump statue was up up for quite awhile. Ive seen it mentioned many times in the news. I wasn’t sure if it had been removed or not. Hillary’s statue was damaged and broken within hours. That’s Pathetic. Intolerance always disturbs me. Freedom of expression is too important. Both statues were satirical expressions of public figures and deserved respect. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2831 "2016-10-18T16:55:29Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Trump statue was up up for quite awhile. Ive seen it mentioned many times in the news. I wasn’t sure if it had been removed or not. > > Hillary’s statue was damaged and broken within hours. That’s Pathetic. Best I can tell, the Trump statue was up for [two hours](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/the-rise-and-fast-fall-of-naked-trump-in-union-square.html). You said it was up all summer. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2832 "2016-10-18T16:56:56Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Trump statue was up up for quite awhile. Ive seen it mentioned many times in the news. I wasn’t sure if it had been removed or not. > > Hillary’s statue was damaged and broken within hours. That’s Pathetic. Damn the government for stomping on that artist’s freedom of speech! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2833 "2016-10-18T16:57:34Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Trump statue was up up for quite awhile. Ive seen it mentioned many times in the news. I wasn’t sure if it had been removed or not. As always, the devil’s in the details. New York had an epic response to the statue: > [@](#): > > NYC Parks stands firmly against any unpermitted erection in city parks, no matter how small. They removed the statue after this Trump burn, same day it was put up. Of course, you’re free to make wild accusations of hypocrisy when you haven’t bothered to even look at the evidence to see whether they’re founded, but you may wish to reconsider this tactic. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2834 "2016-10-18T16:58:20Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > ] > > Trump’s equally offensive statue has been up all summer. It didn’t generate the same angry response. AFAIK it’s still drawing visitors. > [This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen | HuffPost Entertainment](http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b5d9d0e4b034dc73260c94) > > This country’s hypocrisy and unequal treatment is incredible. Your “afaik” would carry more weight if you had bothered reading to the bottom of your linked article: > [@](#): > > UPDATE: The sculpture has since been removed, but not before the NYC Parks Department delivered Trump a sick burn. Don’t think it was up for more than a day. NYC Parks & Recreation take a dim view of people deciding on their own what statues should be placed on display. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2835 "2016-10-18T16:58:37Z")
Two hours, all summer. Basically the same thing. The important thing to remember is LIBERAL HYPOCRISY. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2836 "2016-10-18T16:59:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The original Huffpo article is from July, updated in Aug. > ETA: the update was to note the removal of the statue. Not seeing that. This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen It seems the emperor “has no balls.” **08/18/2016** 01:09 pm ET | Updated Aug 19, 2016 (bolding mine). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2837 "2016-10-18T17:01:20Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Best I can tell, the Trump statue was up for [two hours](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/the-rise-and-fast-fall-of-naked-trump-in-union-square.html). You said it was up all summer. I’ve been hearing about it all summer. The statue was inspired by the primary debates and references to penis size. That was last Spring. I guess articles were using an old picture. They love using it to belittle Trump. I had the impression the statue was up for awhile. If that’s not the case. I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2838 "2016-10-18T17:03:24Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > Excellent read, thank you. > > Sent from my old-as-dirt barn computer using a browser supplied by AOL … > (Just kidding, iPhoners) > [@aceplace57](#): > > I’ve been hearing about it all summer. The statue was inspired by the primary debates and references to penis size. That was last Spring. > > I guess those articles were using an old picture. I had the impression the statue was up for awhile. So wait- the government took down the Trump statue immediately, but citizens tore down the Hillary statue. So whose First Amendment rights were you bemoaning? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2839 "2016-10-18T17:03:39Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’ve been hearing about it all summer. The statue was inspired by the primary debates and references to penis size. That was last Spring. > > I guess those articles were using an old picture. I had the impression the statue was up for awhile. So, you’re retracting your original claim then once shown that facts are opposite of your impression? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2840 "2016-10-18T17:07:09Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Not seeing that. > > This Naked Donald Trump Statue Cannot Be Unseen > It seems the emperor “has no balls.” > **08/18/2016** 01:09 pm ET | Updated Aug 19, 2016 > > (bolding mine). My screw up. I often lose track of which month is which number. Particularly June through Sept. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2841 "2016-10-18T17:07:56Z")
Yes, I erred. I said to begin with that I wasn’t sure if the Trump statue had been taken down. I thought it was on private property and had permission to be displayed. Coverage of the statue and comments about it mislead me into thinking it was on display. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2842 "2016-10-18T17:08:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > My screw up. I often lose track of which month is which number. Particularly June through Sept. > :smack: I’d rub it in, but I need to use my fingers to get this right every damn time. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2843 "2016-10-18T17:10:09Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Yes, I erred. I said to begin with that I wasn’t sure if the Trump statue had been taken down. > > I thought it was on private property and had permission to be displayed But it’s a really interesting metaphor for the Trump campaign. You were very willing to start yelling out charges of liberal hypocrisy despite the fact that it required exactly 12 seconds of very simple verification to show that your claims had no basis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=141) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=143)