# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2864 "2016-10-18T17:51:03Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I think that part of your mistake is due to an impression that there was only 1 Trump statue. In fact, they popped up in 5 cities overnight back in August. After being promptly removed, they showed up later in two other cities (owing to their popularity). There was more coverage because there were more incidents.

Thank you.

That explains my confusion.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2865 "2016-10-18T17:57:05Z")

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Trump supporter does not fact check, gets facts all wrong.

Lashes out at “the media” and “librul hypocrisy!” like they are the ones who caused this.

Whines that everyone is picking on Trump, poor little thing.  
:rolleyes:

Good grief, grow the fuck up and be a responsible and informed participant in the discussion. Or not. Maybe that’s a choice too.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2866 "2016-10-18T18:03:53Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Trump supporter does not fact check, gets facts all wrong.
> 
> Lashes out at “the media” and “librul hypocrisy!” like they are the ones who caused this.
> 
> Whines that everyone is picking on Trump, poor little thing.  
> :rolleyes:
> 
> Good grief, grow the fuck up and be a responsible and informed participant in the discussion. Or not. Maybe that’s a choice too.

And maybe, just maybe, extrapolate this into other things. Trump is telling you that climate change is a liberal and/or Chinese hoax, despite the fact that it is easily verifiable that this isn’t true. Trump is telling you that he opposed the war in Iraq, despite the fact that this is easily verifiable that this isn’t true. Trump is telling you that crime rates have skyrocketed over the past few decades, despite the fact that this is easily verifiable that this isn’t true. And on and on.

Do you think that, perhaps, he is playing off “impressions” and “feelings” rather than facts similar to this statue (non) issue?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2867 "2016-10-18T18:17:26Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> A wounded animal lashes out at everything near it
> 
> That’s Trump. He knows his campaign is dying. He’s snarling and showing his teeth, but it’s all a show now.

\<Mortal Kombat\>  
FINISH HIM!!!  
\</MK\>

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2868 "2016-10-18T18:22:45Z")

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At a press conference today, President Obama called Trump out for not having any basis for asserting that the election was rigged and repeatedly told him to [stop whining](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/obama-trumps-rigged-election-claim-whining-before-the-games-even-over/index.html) and get some votes, if he’s able to.

I’m sure that the President really feels this way, but I can’t help but think that the timing is designed to try and piss Trump off before tomorrow’s debate.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2869 "2016-10-18T18:24:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Of course it’s reprehensible. But I’ve read so many on these very boards who say 1st amendment only has to do with government suppression and there are no protections against “consequences.”

Who on the SDMB has argued that assault should be without legal consequences?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2870 "2016-10-18T18:27:19Z")

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People Magazine, living in a post-Carol Burnett lawsuit world, released an article producing no fewer than [6 corroborators](http://people.com/politics/people-writer-attack-by-donald-trump-corroborated-six-named-sources/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag) for their Trump assault story.

Debate tomorrow, y’all!

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2871 "2016-10-18T18:44:05Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Thank you.
> 
> That explains my confusion.

This time at least.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2872 "2016-10-18T18:45:13Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> At a press conference today, President Obama called Trump out for not having any basis for asserting that the election was rigged and repeatedly told him to [stop whining](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/obama-trumps-rigged-election-claim-whining-before-the-games-even-over/index.html) and get some votes, if he’s able to.
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> I’m sure that the President really feels this way, but I can’t help but think that the timing is designed to try and piss Trump off before tomorrow’s debate.

It’s my fantasy that Trump goes right off the twist on Wednesday, and calls Obama the N word. Or says something rude and sexist about Michelle Obama.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2873 "2016-10-18T18:52:23Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It’s my fantasy that Trump goes right off the twist on Wednesday, and calls Obama the N word. Or says something rude and sexist about Michelle Obama.

By now one would expect people would have figured that it is very unlikely that he will gloriously immolate before our eyes during a debate. It’s going to be slow painful agony for three weeks and I’m dreading it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2874 "2016-10-18T18:54:03Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It’s my fantasy that Trump goes right off the twist on Wednesday, and calls Obama the N word. Or says something rude and sexist about Michelle Obama.

Careful what you wish for. If Trump does something that crazy then Clinton might pass out from the excitement.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2875 "2016-10-18T18:54:55Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> By now one would expect people would have figured that it is very unlikely that he will gloriously immolate before our eyes during a debate…

I have a dream!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2876 "2016-10-18T18:58:52Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I had quite the detailed analysis going until I got to the third page. :smack:
> 
> Who is Blue State Digital?

Apparently an organizer for activists.

[http://info.bluestatedigital.com/digital-marketing-agency-about?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=cpc&utm\_campaign=BSD&utm\_content=BSD%20Brand&utm\_term=Blue%20State%20Digital&gclid=CjwKEAjwkJfABRDnhbPlx6WI4ncSJADMQqxdlN0av5c5QRqrFYlXSV3a9KN4PKaIOKKENexGlLT-HBoCU7bw\_wcB](http://info.bluestatedigital.com/digital-marketing-agency-about?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BSD&utm_content=BSD%20Brand&utm_term=Blue%20State%20Digital&gclid=CjwKEAjwkJfABRDnhbPlx6WI4ncSJADMQqxdlN0av5c5QRqrFYlXSV3a9KN4PKaIOKKENexGlLT-HBoCU7bw_wcB)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2877 "2016-10-18T18:59:57Z")

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Melania Trump said yesterday that if she is First Lady, she’d like to put a stop to online bullying. :rolleyes:

[Video of CNN interview here](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/17/melania-trump-allegations-response-anderson-cooper-intv-ac.cnn).

Is it just me, or does Melania appear to be very stoned in that interview?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2878 "2016-10-18T19:02:52Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> I’m sure that the President really feels this way, but I can’t help but think that the timing is designed to try and piss Trump off before tomorrow’s debate.

Noticeably, Hillary Clinton has again been off the campaign trail, obviously preparing for the debate, while her surrogates fan the country to hold rallies. Trump is a one man campaign, so he has made no time, yet again, to do any studying.

Given that the format of debate 1 is similar to debate 3, but that he is further descending into a realization that he is failing, we should expect him to perform no better than that first attempt. I expect more interrupting, more sighing and sniffing, and more of the useless blather that Trump is just barely capable of.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2879 "2016-10-18T19:09:06Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Melania Trump said yesterday that if she is First Lady, she’d like to put a stop to online bullying. :rolleyes:
> 
> [Video of CNN interview here](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/17/melania-trump-allegations-response-anderson-cooper-intv-ac.cnn).
> 
> Is it just me, or does Melania appear to be very stoned in that interview?

Melania always appears very stoned. She’s usually so stoned she shows no emotions whatsoever. My personal theory is that it’s how she gets through her hellish existence. Money only compensates for so much.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2880 "2016-10-18T19:09:17Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Given that the format of debate 1 is similar to debate 3, but that he is further descending into a realization that he is failing, we should expect him to perform no better than that first attempt. I expect more interrupting, more sighing and sniffing, and more of the useless blather that Trump is just barely capable of.

I disagree.  
He’s very, very good at useless blather. 😃

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2881 "2016-10-18T19:10:17Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Melania Trump said yesterday that if she is First Lady, she’d like to put a stop to online bullying. :rolleyes:
> 
> [Video of CNN interview here](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/17/melania-trump-allegations-response-anderson-cooper-intv-ac.cnn).
> 
> Is it just me, or does Melania appear to be very stoned in that interview?

First step- changing her husband’s twitter password.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2882 "2016-10-18T19:13:37Z")

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[Astrologers predict a Hillary Clinton victory is in the stars.](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-astrology-election-20161018-snap-story.html) Well, I guess that’s that.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2883 "2016-10-18T19:14:36Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Noticeably, Hillary Clinton has again been off the campaign trail, obviously preparing for the debate, while her surrogates fan the country to hold rallies. Trump is a one man campaign, so he has made no time, yet again, to do any studying.
> 
> Given that the format of debate 1 is similar to debate 3, but that he is further descending into a realization that he is failing, we should expect him to perform no better than that first attempt. I expect more interrupting, more sighing and sniffing, and more of the useless blather that Trump is just barely capable of.

This is a tabletop debate, so IIRC, they will be sitting the entire time, within arms reach of each other.

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