# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2924 "2016-10-19T04:15:57Z")

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I think, in that scenario, that America is Anthony. Trump is the guy who maybe shoulda oughta go deep in the cornfield. And that could be a _good_ thing!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2925 "2016-10-19T04:51:23Z")

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Wrote the following little vignette about something election related that happened to me about 4 hours ago:

> <https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/788557263828951040>

It’s the closest I’ve come to going viral: 30k impressions in past 3 hours. I even tossed off a “Doperism”.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2926 "2016-10-19T05:02:21Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Wrote the following little vignette about something election related that happened to me about 4 hours ago:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/788557263828951040)
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> It’s the closest I’ve come to going viral: 30k impressions in past 3 hours. I even tossed off a “Doperism”.

I’ll never understand Twitter. What exactly am I supposed to be reading here?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2927 "2016-10-19T05:05:38Z")

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This one seems to be a little messed up: somehow the tweets got out of order. **JohnT** , maybe you could present them in order?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2928 "2016-10-19T05:44:15Z")

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[The KKK’s official newspaper has endorsed Trump.](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/18/kkks-official-newspaper-just-endorsed-trump/)

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> “Make America Great Again!” It is a slogan that has been repeatedly used by Donald Trump in his campaign for the presidency. You can see it on the shirts, buttons, posters and ball caps such as the one being worn here by Trump speaking at a recent rally…But can it happen? Can America really be great again? This is what we will soon found out! While Trump wants to make America great again, we have to ask ourselves, “What made America great in the first place?” The short answer to that is simple. America was great not because of what our forefathers did — but because of who are forefathers were, America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2929 "2016-10-19T05:54:44Z")

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[Roger Stone spent the weekend at a JFK conspiracy convention in which he alleged that LBJ had Kennedy assassinated, that the Clintons had JFK Junior killed, and that Trump will put all of the Clintons in jail once he becomes President.](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/17/three-weeks-election-top-trump-ally-roger-stone-spoke-jfk-conspiracy-conference/213882)

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2930 "2016-10-19T06:07:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> People Magazine, living in a post-Carol Burnett lawsuit world, released an article producing no fewer than [6 corroborators](http://people.com/politics/people-writer-attack-by-donald-trump-corroborated-six-named-sources/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag) for their Trump assault story.
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> Debate tomorrow, y’all!

The Clinton team can’t try Trump’s stunt of bringing in the accusers. They would take over the entire audience.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2931 "2016-10-19T06:44:17Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Huh, that’s not how I think of it. I separate 17 into 10 and 7. 6x10 is obviously 60. And anyone who knows their times tables knows 6x7 is 42. 60+40 is, again obviously, 100; tack on the 2 you’ve got left and it’s 102. Writing it down makes it sound complicated but the mental process is pretty simple IMO.

Well sure but the method doesn’t matter, the point is you know how to work it out in your head, probably in less than five seconds, certainly less than 10. None of them got it right and then Trump insisted he was correct when obviously Stern had the right answer prepared.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2932 "2016-10-19T06:52:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks, O Beloved and Valued Neighbors to the North!

Psst: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807367](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807367)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2933 "2016-10-19T09:05:46Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Prescription pharmaceuticals. With the right doctor she never has to give a shit about anything at all, and it’s all legal!

“Okay, toots. Take one of the green ones every six hours. If your husband insists on having sex, take FOUR of the blue ones a half-hour before penetration. You won’t feel a THING, I promise. And you’ll wake up smiling in 24 hours.”

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2934 "2016-10-19T09:37:10Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That’s some super-duper conspiracy she’s running if it’s strong enough to move whole star systems into suitable alignments on command.
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> Do NOT F\*\*\* with that woman; she be Capital-D Dangerous. And Capital-P Powerful.
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> The Trumpees are doomed. When Mars says so, he means it. And has the tools to back it up.

This touches on something that’s occurred to me lately.

When Trump supporters make these ridiculous assertions about the extent of Hillary Clinton’s evil control of the entire universe, I’ve started calling them out on it.

To paraphrase Walter White, if Hillary Clinton is really capable of all that they’re accusing her of, [maybe their best course would be to tread lightly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10czUKzpbgg)

And if they feel safe continuing with these claims, it’s proof that they’re just running their mouths.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2935 "2016-10-19T10:30:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [The KKK’s official newspaper has endorsed Trump.](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/18/kkks-official-newspaper-just-endorsed-trump/)

At last, he’s gotten a newspaper endorsement! That makes…one, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2936 "2016-10-19T12:11:08Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> People Magazine, living in a post-Carol Burnett lawsuit world, released an article producing no fewer than [6 corroborators](http://people.com/politics/people-writer-attack-by-donald-trump-corroborated-six-named-sources/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag) for their Trump assault story.
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> Debate tomorrow, y’all!

People Magazine engaging in journalism!

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2937 "2016-10-19T12:12:34Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> People Magazine engaging in journalism!

And Cosmo!

This election is a cornucopia of firsts.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2938 "2016-10-19T12:28:01Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Well sure but the method doesn’t matter, the point is you know how to work it out in your head, probably in less than five seconds, certainly less than 10. None of them got it right and then Trump insisted he was correct when obviously Stern had the right answer prepared.

Yes, absolutely. About a second and a half, I’d say. Really pathetic by them, considering the allegedly great brain he says he has.

Was that humiliation his final appearance on the show?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2939 "2016-10-19T12:42:19Z")

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I’m not convinced a person needs to be able to solve multiplication equations mentally in order to be a successful human being, successful businessperson, or even successful politician. If someone laughed and said, “Look, I pull out a calculator when I need to do that,” or even, “I have PEOPLE who multiply numbers for me!” I’d be fine with that response.

The problem comes when he doesn’t know he can’t do it. The real problem comes when he disputes the correct answer. That bodes very poorly for someone who’s gonna be making life-or-death decisions.

(FWIW: I know 5\*17, then add 10, then add 7. Many different methods!)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2940 "2016-10-19T13:23:31Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> My Canadian sister passed on an [absolutely glorious takedown](http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/andrew-coyne-how-does-donald-trump-still-have-supporters) of Trump from a Canadian paper. It’s really worth reading in its entirety (and it’s pretty short), but here’s a bit to whet your appetite…

Andrew Coyne is the best columnist writing in Canada today, and it’s not even a close call. He’s been churning out columns of wonderfully written insight for years and years, on a range of topics too broad for me to fully remember.

I would also point out that Coyne quotes an article from… Cracked. Isn’t that great?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2941 "2016-10-19T13:36:22Z")

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As you ( **LHoD** just above) say.

To top it off, pretty much every high-level exec or entrepreneur I’ve ever met is a whiz at mental arithmetic. Their ability to keep track of, and act on, the myriad of numbers that pass for the control panel of a big business is amazing.

And I say that as somebody who’s darn good at mental arithmetic, does a bunch of it every work day, and has a strong memory for arbitrary numbers.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2942 "2016-10-19T13:42:25Z")

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Here’s how I do it in my head: 6x17. Okay, that’s 6x11 + 6x6. 66 + 36. 60+30=90, and 6+6=12, so 90+12. That’s 90+2+10, or 92+10, which is 92+8+2 or 100+2 or 102.

Just kidding. 6x10 (60) + 6x7 (42) = 60+40+2 = 102.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2943 "2016-10-19T13:45:13Z")

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It’s 120-18. What’s so difficult about that?

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