# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/301 "2016-10-05T21:11:17Z")
[The Atlantic,](http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/11/the-case-for-hillary-clinton-and-against-donald-trump/501161/)for only the third time in their history since 1860, has endorsed a candidate for president. Anyone want to guess who they endorsed? No fair clicking the link first! OK, here’s a small hint: > [@](#): > > Donald Trump, on the other hand, has no record of public service and no qualifications for public office. His affect is that of an infomercial huckster; he traffics in conspiracy theories and racist invective; he is appallingly sexist; he is erratic, secretive, and xenophobic; he expresses admiration for authoritarian rulers, and evinces authoritarian tendencies himself. He is easily goaded, a poor quality for someone seeking control of America’s nuclear arsenal. He is an enemy of fact-based discourse; he is ignorant of, and indifferent to, the Constitution; he appears not to read. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/302 "2016-10-05T21:15:19Z")
_The Atlantic_ endorsed Donald Trump?!? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/303 "2016-10-05T21:17:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Donald Trump, on the other hand, has no record of public service and no qualifications for public office. His affect is that of an infomercial huckster; he traffics in conspiracy theories and racist invective; he is appallingly sexist; he is erratic, secretive, and xenophobic; he expresses admiration for authoritarian rulers, and evinces authoritarian tendencies himself. He is easily goaded, a poor quality for someone seeking control of America’s nuclear arsenal. He is an enemy of fact-based discourse; he is ignorant of, and indifferent to, the Constitution; he appears not to read. There goes the lamestream media again. He can read. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/304 "2016-10-05T21:31:17Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > There goes the lamestream media again. He can read. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/305 "2016-10-05T21:41:55Z")
[Johnson has more endorsements than Trump](http://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/299309-gary-johnson-getting-more-paper-endorsements-than-trump) ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/306 "2016-10-05T21:44:39Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Cite? Retracted. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/307 "2016-10-05T22:13:27Z")
Ohio is now the lightest of blues. Come on Iowa! Come Sunday, I’ll be vacationing at the home of my very conservative sister and BIL - in FLORIDA! How crappy of a houseguest would I be if I asked them to turn on the debate?! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/308 "2016-10-05T22:22:40Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Ohio is now the lightest of blues. Come on Iowa! > > Come Sunday, I’ll be vacationing at the home of my very conservative sister and BIL - in FLORIDA! How crappy of a houseguest would I be if I asked them to turn on the debate?! 😉 I don’t know, but first you should make sure that your rental car is sleepable. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/309 "2016-10-05T22:50:45Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Ohio is now the lightest of blues. Come on Iowa! > > Come Sunday, I’ll be vacationing at the home of my very conservative sister and BIL - in FLORIDA! How crappy of a houseguest would I be if I asked them to turn on the debate?! 😉 I’d be more concerned with them having any power to watch TV in the first place, what with the major hurricane and all. Politics taking a back seat to real life in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/310 "2016-10-05T23:17:10Z")
[Playground Bully](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y4Ll-6ake8) - an anti-Trump ad. Kinda funny, kinda sad. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/311 "2016-10-06T02:09:49Z")
"[Trump threatens to sue over ‘nasty’ campaign ads](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299473-trump-threatens-to-sue-over-nasty-campaign-ads) … They’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars on false commercials, and it’s a disgrace. So what we’ll do, I guess we’ll sue them. Let’s sue them." [QUOTE=Paul Krugman on tweeter] [Like he said, we’re going to whine so much you’ll get sick and tired of whining](https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/783812457630347264) [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/312 "2016-10-06T02:27:10Z")
Crybaby Trump. The Billion Dollar Loser. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/313 "2016-10-06T02:27:12Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I still maintain that a candidate without Clinton’s issues wouldn’t be keeping this race close. > [@Bayard](#): > > I agree that Biden would be farther ahead. He’d be smiling that happy shark smile of his and turning on the Middle Class Joe charm and just crushing Trump. > [@MeanJoe](#): > > I don’t think you can say removing the HRC baggage automatically equates to a huge lead in the polls over Trump if it was Biden. > _\_ > Anyway, HRCs “baggage” is certainly a bigger anchor than even I expected it to be. > [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > I can only think of a few other explanations for why Clinton is not doing as well as Obama did in his elections. > [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I think part of Hillary’s problem in the polls is that the GOP realized after the 2008 race that she was pretty likely to be the nominee in 2016 > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Martin O’Malley, had he won the nomination, would also be doing quite a bit better than Hillary is now, I think. Ummmm… anyone remember when Hillary fell down ill about a month ago? This race was never close. Even Trump’s post-convention bump hardly did him any good. Hillary wasn’t seeing any trouble until she fell. Then the polls went crazy for a few weeks but now that we’re through the first debate she’s back up to where she had been before the fall. Hillary’s “problem with the polls” is that she caught pneumonia and fell down. Now that that nonsense is in the rear view mirror, she’s doing fine. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/314 "2016-10-06T02:39:28Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > This race was never close. Nobody’s going to believe this. It may be factually true and relevant and utterly correct in every sense, but people apparently need to believe that we came within a gnat’s whisker of electing Trump and so that’s what they’ll believe from now until the end of time. I fully expect people (Dopers) to “correct” me about it, just as I’ve been “corrected” about the concept of expected value. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/315 "2016-10-06T02:39:38Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Retracted. You shouldn’t retract. He can read a tweet. More words than that? Not sure. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/316 "2016-10-06T02:41:31Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > No, the country is not more conservative than 2012. It used to be that Republicans could gin up the vote by putting an anti gay marriage proposal on the ballot, that wouldn’t work now (at least in their favor). But what has happened is that bigots now feel to shout out loud what they could only hint at in the past. Trump has given them a permission slip to proclaim their hatred proudly. Or the way I phrase it, he activated the alt-right. It’s a new Southern Strategy. The alt-right generally was too much into conspiracies and thinking both parties were equally evil. But they’ve fully endorsed Trump. You have about 25% of the Religious Right. Then at most 10% true conservatives. But Trump then activates the alt-right, since there’s no one else to use. Problem is, the alt-right is a diminishing group. Sure, the edgelords are out there, who make it easier for alt-right supporters to hide (when before decency kept them from being able to state their views.) They’re bold. They’re loud. But they aren’t the boogeyman people think. Their entire strategy is to appear bigger than they are. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/317 "2016-10-06T02:45:18Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > [Playground Bully](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y4Ll-6ake8) - an anti-Trump ad. Kinda funny, kinda sad. For me, it started out cute, and by the end I was in tears. Surprisingly effective. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/318 "2016-10-06T02:46:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > "[Trump threatens to sue over ‘nasty’ campaign ads](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299473-trump-threatens-to-sue-over-nasty-campaign-ads) > > … > > They’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars on false commercials, and it’s a disgrace. So what we’ll do, I guess we’ll sue them. Let’s sue them." For someone who is so proud of being not politically correct, he sounds like he wants a safe place. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/319 "2016-10-06T02:47:04Z")
BigT, I gotta ask – what the heck is an “edgelord”? Did I skip that chapter of _Return of the King_? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/320 "2016-10-06T02:50:38Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > BigT, I gotta ask – what the heck is an “edgelord”? Did I skip that chapter of _Return of the King_? Got it. Someone who “tries too hard too hard to be edgy.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=17)