# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3184 "2016-10-21T14:40:07Z")

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After the election, will the Trump campaign undergo rigged mortis?

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3185 "2016-10-21T14:44:10Z")

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> [@pseudograph](#):
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> You forgot the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences.  
> And I suppose now Trump might want to add the attendees of the Al Smith Dinner.

You might as well add God herself to his list of enemies. Having a Republican doing this badly against Hillary Clinton is starting to doubt my Atheism.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3186 "2016-10-21T15:29:00Z")

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> [@pseudograph](#):
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> You forgot the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences…

And the Emmy Awards, for criminally overlooking _The Apprentice_.

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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3187 "2016-10-21T15:54:07Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> FWIW, the fundraising emails I’ve been getting from Clinton have recently been referring to Trump’s statements about not accepting the outcome of the election. The past few emails have been exhorting me to give more money to help her “win by a mile” so that the outcome is in no doubt.

Ha, just noticed I had this stuck in spam since the day before the debate. Love the bit I highlighted:

Three weeks from today, we’ll all be glued to our television sets and Twitter feeds watching as the results come in. Imagine how you’ll feel when those giant checkmarks pop up on screen, declaring that Hillary has won a battleground state or a state that’s voted Republican for decades.

Picture what it’ll feel like when she crosses the threshold of 270 electoral votes – _ **imagine the joy we’ll all feel when Trump finally concedes.** _

But now imagine how you would feel if we don’t get the results we want on election night. What if we lose states we thought we had locked? What if we have to watch Trump give a victory speech? Seriously, that’s still a possibility.

As one of Hillary’s most committed supporters, make sure you’re on the record as a Presidential Donor – one of the folks who chipped in before the critical FEC deadline tomorrow – to show you’re in for the final stretch and that you stepped up before it was too late.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3188 "2016-10-21T15:56:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And the Emmy Awards, for criminally overlooking _The Apprentice_.

The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences is what runs the Emmy Awards.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3189 "2016-10-21T16:03:56Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences is what runs the Emmy Awards.

Well, then, obviously they’re doubly crooked! Kind of like the Clintons.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3190 "2016-10-21T16:30:24Z")

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The Grammys, too, since she has one and he doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3191 "2016-10-21T16:54:33Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Tweety Bird is a boy.

So’s Bugs Bunny, and he uses his feminine wiles all the time.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3192 "2016-10-21T16:54:36Z")

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#Trumpbookreport

Kind of like “If LOTR was written by someone else”, but in 140 characters as done by Trump. You can find it on Twitter if you wish. I decided to do the Dune books:

> [@](#):
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> Dune: Main religious book is “Orange-Catholic Bible”. Stilgar better than Obama. Fremen=Russia. Me=Paul Atreides
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> #Winning #trumpbookreport

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> Dune Messiah: WTF? Who wrote this?
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> #IwillNeverGoBlind  
> #PressBiasMadePaulALoser  
> #RiggedRules  
> #trumpbookreport

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> Children of Dune: YES! MY KIDS KICK ASS, er, great followup.
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> Question: How do I become an immortal worm?  
> #trumpbookreport

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> God: Emperor of Dune
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> Srsly, need to become immortal worm NOW. @KellyannePolls? You know anybody?
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> #WaterOfLifeIsNotWater  
> #trumpbookreport

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> Heretics of Dune:
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> Confusion: Sexually dominant females take over universe with “super-sex powers” and this is a bad thing?  
> #trumpbookreport

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> Chapterhouse: Dune
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> Uuuhhhh. Did I read this one? Had something to do with the Bene witches, right? Boring!  
> #trumpbookreport

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> (Post-Herbert Dune): Brilliant! None of this matches what came before! I love it, confusion, chaos.  
> #MAGA  
> #trumpbookreport

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3193 "2016-10-21T17:16:19Z")

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Republican ground game?

I’ve been making phone calls for Clinton and Tammy Duckworth over the past three weeks, and our GOTV efforts start in force in a week or so.

I’ve heard repeatedly that the Republicans don’t have the ground game that the Democrats do, and I was wondering what that means. I live in Illinois, a state that Trump has about as much chance of winning as I do of winning the lottery (and I don’t buy lottery tickets). But I would have expected a call or two by now for Kirk or one of the down ticket Pubs.

What is their ground game – and why does Trump’s apparent ignorance of the importance of GOTV efforts make so many think that the Pubs won’t have much of a ground game at all this year?

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3194 "2016-10-21T17:21:58Z")

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Who is going to write the bestseller?

Let’s face it – the inevitable book that gives the inside story of what went on in the Trump campaign is going to be YUGE!!!.

I’m wondering who you think might write it? I think it has to be someone at a high enough level to be privy to the inner workings of the campaign, and someone who has been around for most of the campaign – ideally starting during the primaries. That doesn’t leave many people, does it?

I was also wondering if the book would have to be written by the ever-prolific “Anonymous.” I’m thinking that the book that would be on top of the best seller lists for months (which this would) might be a book that would make it hard for the writer to find work in another campaign.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3195 "2016-10-21T17:28:05Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Republican ground game?
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> I’ve been making phone calls for Clinton and Tammy Duckworth over the past three weeks, and our GOTV efforts start in force in a week or so.
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> I’ve heard repeatedly that the Republicans don’t have the ground game that the Democrats do, and I was wondering what that means. I live in Illinois, a state that Trump has about as much chance of winning as I do of winning the lottery (and I don’t buy lottery tickets). But I would have expected a call or two by now for Kirk or one of the down ticket Pubs
> 
> What is their ground game – and why does Trump’s apparent ignorance of the importance of GOTV efforts make so many think that the Pubs won’t have much of a ground game at all this year?

In my state (FL) voter’s registered party affiliation is public info readily available to all parties.

A such I doubt it makes a lot of sense for one party to call known adherents of the other party. As a sample size of one, I’ve received several GOTV callers from the Ds and zero from the Rs. I’ve also stopped answering calls from out of state numbers, most of which leave no message, so I may be leaving data about GOTV efforts on the floor.

FL also has a plurality of folks who choose not to register a party affiliation. I’d bet those folk’s phones are ringing constantly from both sides.

Is any of this applicable to you in IL?

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3196 "2016-10-21T17:30:57Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Tweety Bird is a boy.

It’s unclear, actually; it sings, which would make it a boy, but it’s got long lashes, which is cartoon code for girl. And boy or girl, it does use “oh gosh” tactics.

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Who is going to write the bestseller?
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> Let’s face it – the inevitable book that gives the inside story of what went on in the Trump campaign is going to be YUGE!!!.
> 
> I’m wondering who you think might write it? I think it has to be someone at a high enough level to be privy to the inner workings of the campaign, and someone who has been around for most of the campaign – ideally starting during the primaries. That doesn’t leave many people, does it?
> 
> I was also wondering if the book would have to be written by the ever-prolific “Anonymous.” I’m thinking that the book that would be on top of the best seller lists for months (which this would) might be a book that would make it hard for the writer to find work in another campaign.

It will not be _written_ by “Anonymous”, but the version available on the internets will be, uh, “[edited](http://anonofficial.com/)” by Anonymous.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3198 "2016-10-21T17:53:37Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> FL also has a plurality of folks who choose not to register a party affiliation. I’d bet those folk’s phones are ringing constantly from both sides.

Not mine, then again I don’t have a landline. Not one political call yet (cross fingers). I _have_ been getting more political mail than usual, though, from both sides.

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No landline here either.

I’m registered D and get lots of mailings from the D candidates. Every day has 1 or two glossy cards, many 9x12. Most are down-ticket, but a handful have been from Hillary about how woman-unfriendly / creepy Trump is. So far zero R mailings, although I see them in my building’s recycle bin addressed my neighbors. That’s the same place I put mine. As apparently do many other Ds here.

I have gotten a couple calls on my mobile from the local D party canvassers, mostly asking for me to volunteer or to at least talk up voting D with my neighbors.

Zero calls from Rs. Net of calls from random numbers that I’ve wished to the cornfield and could have been from anyone. One of which left a voicemail and turned out to be Peggy from Card Services. Again. Sigh.

Hey, maybe Trump could molest Peggy & Rachel then they’d go off to an island someplace. For good. We can hope, can’t we? 😃

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Not mine, then again I don’t have a landline. Not one political call yet (cross fingers). I _have_ been getting more political mail than usual, though, from both sides.

One of those elections where it’s _really_ nice to live in Massachusetts. Near as I can tell, neither candidate has spent a thin dime on advertising or mail in MA. Our US House Representative is running unopposed. So all I have to listen to are the overwrought Ayotte ads leaking over the border from NH.

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If you are non-affiliated/registered as independent, you have a much higher chance of being called. Same thing if you’re over 65 - lots of GOTV calls are made to seniors to verify if they need rides.

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One more reason I’m happy I live in California. No calls, only a few mailers and those are mostly dealing with either petty shit or my choice between two Democrats for Senator.

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Who is going to write the bestseller?
> 
> Let’s face it – the inevitable book that gives the inside story of what went on in the Trump campaign is going to be YUGE!!!.
> 
> I’m wondering who you think might write it? I think it has to be someone at a high enough level to be privy to the inner workings of the campaign, and someone who has been around for most of the campaign – ideally starting during the primaries. That doesn’t leave many people, does it?
> 
> I was also wondering if the book would have to be written by the ever-prolific “Anonymous.” I’m thinking that the book that would be on top of the best seller lists for months (which this would) might be a book that would make it hard for the writer to find work in another campaign.

My vote would be Kellyanne Conway. She probably got the book deal ten seconds after signing on Trump’s dotted line. Practically writes itself. It’ll make _Blind Ambition_ look like _The Cat In The Hat._

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