# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3204 "2016-10-21T18:55:30Z")

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You don’t think every single person even remotely touching the campaign wasn’t signed to a LIFETIME non-disclosure agreement? That’s Trump’s SOP for his own employees. Signing a contract saying you will never say anything bad about him or what you did or Mr. Lawsuit will get you.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3205 "2016-10-21T18:59:26Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> So all I have to listen to are the overwrought Ayotte ads leaking over the border from NH.

And the ads for the ballot initiatives.

Well… one of the ballot question, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3206 "2016-10-21T18:59:30Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> One more reason I’m happy I live in California. No calls, only a few mailers and those are mostly dealing with either petty shit or my choice between two Democrats for Senator.

I’ve seen a couple of Hillary ads here in Sacramento, but none from Trump. There are A LOT of Bera vs. Jones and Eggman vs. Denham House ads.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3207 "2016-10-21T19:00:50Z")

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Every journalist who was following around the Trump gang will have a book out within a couple of months.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3208 "2016-10-21T19:16:02Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> You don’t think every single person even remotely touching the campaign wasn’t signed to a LIFETIME non-disclosure agreement? That’s Trump’s SOP for his own employees. Signing a contract saying you will never say anything bad about him or what you did or Mr. Lawsuit will get you.

Whose lifetime? 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3209 "2016-10-21T19:22:57Z")

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> **[Trump Goes After Michelle Obama: ‘All She Wants To Do Is Campaign’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-michelle-obama-hillary-clinton)**
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> During his rally in Fletcher, North Carolina, on Friday, Donald Trump claimed that Michelle Obama's 2007 line about not being able to run the White House if you can't run your own house was a dig at…

**Trump Goes After Michelle Obama**

Oh, shit, he’s found our weak spot, he’s going after _Michelle_. Now we’re totally boned, 'cause she is so unpopular! Not the briar patch, B’rer Swamp Rat! Anything but _that_!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3210 "2016-10-21T19:25:45Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> You don’t think every single person even remotely touching the campaign wasn’t signed to a LIFETIME non-disclosure agreement? That’s Trump’s SOP for his own employees. Signing a contract saying you will never say anything bad about him or what you did or Mr. Lawsuit will get you.

I wonder if those agreements are still binding if Trump stiffs them on their paychecks. I doubt so.

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3211 "2016-10-21T19:31:24Z")

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I was wondering when he would start going after Michelle, because he just can’t resist. Although what he said is pretty tame compared to [other things Republicans have said about her](http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/04/michelle-obama-derangement-syndrome-four-years/189737).

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3212 "2016-10-21T19:50:21Z")

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I thought Michelle wasn’t going to run until 2024?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3213 "2016-10-21T20:09:38Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> You don’t think every single person even remotely touching the campaign wasn’t signed to a LIFETIME non-disclosure agreement? That’s Trump’s SOP for his own employees. Signing a contract saying you will never say anything bad about him or what you did or Mr. Lawsuit will get you.

I think that the amount of money the publishing/media industry will be willing to throw at the first Trump defector will be so obscene that the threat of a breach of contract lawsuit won’t seem too bad of a risk. _Particularly_ to someone familiar with the Trump organization enough to know that his “best lawyers, the _best_” are probably underpaid hacks, too.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3214 "2016-10-21T20:16:22Z")

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[“Hey ladies…stop voting with your emotion, and start voting with your _head_.”](https://www.facebook.com/381726605193429/videos/1308176595881754/) -Angry Scott Baio

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3215 "2016-10-21T20:23:50Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I wonder if those agreements are still binding if Trump stiffs them on their paychecks. I doubt so.

Yeah, you could argue breach of contract on the non-payment, but Trump will still sue the fuck out of you just out of spite, even knowing he’d lose. Just to cost you that money.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3216 "2016-10-21T20:25:22Z")

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GIGObuster-  
Thanks for sharing that wonderful cartoon! I didn’t watch the last debate because I’ve had ENOUGH. A few more weeks now, that’s all.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3217 "2016-10-21T20:32:01Z")

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_Hamilton_’s Lin-Manuel Miranda and Renée Elise Goldsberry rap in support of Hillary: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQbU-bbrUc&app=desktop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQbU-bbrUc&app=desktop)

> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Who is going to write the bestseller?
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> Let’s face it – the inevitable book that gives the inside story of what went on in the Trump campaign is going to be YUGE!!!..

Dunno about a one-person insider account, but I’m already looking forward to the next _Game Change_ book by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin. Their first two (_Game Change_ and _Game Change: Double Down_, about the 2008 and 2012 campaigns) were terrific.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3218 "2016-10-21T20:46:00Z")

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[Richard Branson posted about a lunch he had with Trump several years ago.](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/21/richard-branson-just-revealed-trumps-bizarre-revenge-fantasies/)

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> Some years ago, Mr Trump invited me to lunch for a one-to-one meeting at his apartment in Manhattan. We had not met before and I accepted. Even before the starters arrived he began telling me about how he had asked a number of people for help after his latest bankruptcy and how five of them were unwilling to help. He told me he was going to spend the rest of his life destroying these five people.
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> He didn’t speak about anything else and I found it very bizarre. I told him I didn’t think it was the best way of spending his life. I said it was going to eat him up, and do more damage to him than them. There must be more constructive ways to spend the rest of your life. (Hopefully my advice didn’t lead to him running for President!) I was baffled why he had invited me to lunch solely to tell me this. For a moment, I even wondered if he was going to ask me for financial help. If he had, I would have become the sixth person on his list!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3219 "2016-10-21T21:41:38Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [“Hey ladies…stop voting with your emotion, and start voting with your _head_.”](https://www.facebook.com/381726605193429/videos/1308176595881754/) -Angry Scott Baio

Oh my! They’ve moved into angry self-parody.

Reminds me of the 2006 federal election in Canada, when the Liberals were so upset by the surge of the Conservatives that they ran an advert in the dying days of the campaign that there would be tanks in the streets if the Conservatives won. Grainy black and white video of tanks, scary voice-over, etc.

The advert was met by a mixture of amusement, disbelief, and ridicule. I think it influenced how people voted, but not the way the Liberals were hoping.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3220 "2016-10-21T22:08:15Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [“Hey ladies…stop voting with your emotion, and start voting with your _head_.”](https://www.facebook.com/381726605193429/videos/1308176595881754/) -Angry Scott Baio

Not gonna click on facebook.

What’s the point of the video? Which way does Baio think is head and which is heart? What the heck does a washed-up 1980s teen heart-throb know about anything? Color me baffled. Even after a quick look to wiki. Yeah, yeah, he’s an Obama hater with some name recognition. After that?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3221 "2016-10-21T22:24:51Z")

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I believe he did speak at the Republican convention. Has he been on Dancing With The Stars yet? Celebrity Rehab? Hollywood Squares? In any event, he’s surely a thought leader in the conservative movement.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3222 "2016-10-21T22:35:02Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> What’s the point of the video? Which way does Baio think is head and which is heart?

Given that he’s the biggest star the RNC Convention had this year, he thinks Trump is the intelligent vote, and he’s angry that women have the temerity to fail to support Mr. “Grab Them By The Pussy” and instead vote for a competent politician with intelligent policies.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3223 "2016-10-21T22:41:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> [Trump Goes After Michelle Obama: ‘All She Wants To Do Is Campaign’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-michelle-obama-hillary-clinton)
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> **Trump Goes After Michelle Obama**
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> Oh, shit, he’s found our weak spot, he’s going after _Michelle_. Now we’re totally boned, 'cause she is so unpopular! Not the briar patch, B’rer Swamp Rat! Anything but _that_!

Great way to win over the undecideds.  
I understand that people on Trump’s staff are applying to Wells Fargo in order to work at a more ethical place.

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