# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3344 "2016-10-23T19:50:58Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> [coughs] _Richard Nixon_ [/coughs]

Exception. He did lose for governor of California 2 years later, and gave a famously whiny concession speech then. The fact that he was able to revive and more-or-less re-invent himself in 1967-68 is more a tribute to his own tenacity for power than anything.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3345 "2016-10-23T19:54:51Z")

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[Based upon polls released today, Real Clear Politics moved TX to a toss-up state in their electoral map.](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html)

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3346 "2016-10-23T19:58:46Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> Guys, did Alec Baldwin make comedy history for the fourth week in a row this/last night? I have family visiting, so I was unable to watch. Please fill me in.

His best line was when he called out his brother Stephen for supporting Trump:

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> “She can brag about her resume, but I’m the one who has got all the heavy hitters supporting me. I’ve got the cream of the crop. I’ve got Sarah Palin. I’ve got Chachi. And get this, I’ve even got the best Baldwin brother — Stephen Baldwin.”

Apparently [Stephen](http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/alec-baldwin-playing-trump-on-snl-calls-out-stephen-baldwin-1.12495358) really is a Trump supporter, and doesn’t think Alec’s Trump is very funny.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3347 "2016-10-23T20:11:10Z")

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Trump just got his first newspaper endorsement: the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Which is owned by GOP Moneybags Sheldon Adelson, so not a huge surprise.

This could be just the break they need.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3348 "2016-10-23T20:37:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [Based upon polls released today, Real Clear Politics moved TX to a toss-up state in their electoral map.](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html)

[Meh.](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6104.html) I guess +5 is their toss up edge as they still have it Trump +4.8

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3349 "2016-10-23T20:42:57Z")

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[A visit to Trump Tower.](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49868/trump-tower-what-a-dump/)  
If this is any indication on how he plans to solve America’s problems…

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3350 "2016-10-23T20:56:56Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump just got his first newspaper endorsement: the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
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> Which is owned by GOP Moneybags Sheldon Adelson, so not a huge surprise.
> 
> This could be just the break they need.

I think this is his second. The first was the [KKK](http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/21/donald-trump-finally-wins-newspaper-endorsement-kkk.html).

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3351 "2016-10-23T21:20:44Z")

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I thought his first was from National Enquirer?

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3352 "2016-10-23T22:17:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [A visit to Trump Tower.](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49868/trump-tower-what-a-dump/)  
> If this is any indication on how he plans to solve America’s problems…

My favorite was the “stainless steel” contact paper over the white fridge. The other things were mere neglect and shoddy workmanship. But plastering fake metal over a cheaper item shows that they put some thought and effort into it. That’s attention to detail!

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3353 "2016-10-23T22:21:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [A visit to Trump Tower.](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49868/trump-tower-what-a-dump/)  
> If this is any indication on how he plans to solve America’s problems…

Crap. Ninjaed again. You have to move fast around here.

I know our infrastructure would be just great under Trump.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3354 "2016-10-23T22:47:38Z")

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We dodged a bullet when he lost the [“deal”](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Donald-Trump-Scraps-Jones-Beach-Luxury-Development-Restaurant-Storm-Sandy-184853881.html) to desecrate Jones Beach, an irreplaceable treasure. His absurd insistence on the basement

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3355 "2016-10-23T22:59:44Z")

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Pre-Convention Trump endorsements:  
New York Post  
New York Observer

post-Convention Trump endorsements:  
National Enquirer  
Santa Barbara News-Press  
St. Joseph News-Press  
Las Vegas Review-Journal

The news regarding the Review-Journal is that it is considered to be the first major paper endorsing Trump.  
(I do not know what circulation gets one into the “major” category.)

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3356 "2016-10-23T23:30:49Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> The news regarding the Review-Journal is that it is considered to be the first major paper endorsing Trump.  
> (I do not know what circulation gets one into the “major” category.)

Their circulation is about 120K (wiki thing says 172K, but I used to work for a paper: those numbers are always so grossly overstated, one can usually knock off a third), which in this era makes it a darn big publication. Dead-tree things are dying.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3357 "2016-10-23T23:50:22Z")

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Hillary loves her Cubs. 😃

It’s wonderful seeing her express real emotions and passions for something. She’s supported the Cubs since childhood.

I know, releasing the photo was a calculated move by her campaign. But it captured Hillary in a way that the public rarely sees.  
[https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cubs-world-series-hillary-clinton-react-met-20161023-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cubs-world-series-hillary-clinton-react-met-20161023-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-motorola)

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3358 "2016-10-24T00:24:38Z")

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Everything Hillary does is calculated.

And you know what?

I like that feature in the most powerful individual on the planet. 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3359 "2016-10-24T00:38:23Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> [coughs] _Richard Nixon_ [/coughs]

But Nixon came back from the political dead. 🙂 Seriously, I did forget that but Nixon’s path kind of still illustrates the point: nowadays you’re really not likely to be viewed as contender next time, and two times later Trump would be 78 (the other big hole in the Palin analogy being that he’s old and she isn’t).

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3360 "2016-10-24T00:48:44Z")

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I mailed in my absentee ballot a few days ago, so I’ve done my part to help Hillary get elected. The down-ticket Republicans were out of luck too, as I voted a straight Democratic ticket, right down to and including mayor.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3361 "2016-10-24T00:49:36Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Pre-Convention Trump endorsements:  
> [INDENT]New York Post
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> The news regarding the Review-Journal is that it is considered to be the first major paper endorsing Trump.  
> (I do not know what circulation gets one into the “major” category.)

The Post has several times the circulation. A trashy paper perhaps, arguably only third in its market in circulation (slightly behind the Daily News if both’s numbers are equally accurate, Times more than both combined), but the market is the country’s biggest city. I guess maybe the technicality is to not count pre-nomination endorsements, as if the Post would ever have endorsed anyone else in the general.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3362 "2016-10-24T01:04:07Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Pre-Convention Trump endorsements:  
> New York Post  
> New York Observer
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> post-Convention Trump endorsements:  
> National Enquirer  
> Santa Barbara News-Press  
> St. Joseph News-Press  
> Las Vegas Review-Journal
> 
> The news regarding the Review-Journal is that it is considered to be the first major paper endorsing Trump.  
> (I do not know what circulation gets one into the “major” category.)

It’s also worth noting that the New York Observer is owned by Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3363 "2016-10-24T01:13:13Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> John Boehner, on the other hand, has a smile on his face 24/7.

“Ol’ Enzyte John” they call him now around the has-been R’s retirement home.

Nice place: cozy fire, red cardigans for the men, Wilford Brimley telling stories from when the whole White Male American Generation was Great, etc. And there’s Enzyte John grinnin’ like a fool at all and sundry.

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