# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3484 "2016-10-25T03:25:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > New York Times: [The 281 People, Places and Things Donald > Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html)… > > …our best effort to categorize more than 4,000 tweets Mr. Trump has made since he declared his candidacy in June 2015. > > Of those, we found that one in every eight was a personal insult of some kind. That’s actually a lower ratio than I would’ve guessed. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3485 "2016-10-25T03:40:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So much for GOP worship of the military. Republicans prefer to worship the military at Arlington. If you are not in a stone-garden, you are a nuisance. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3486 "2016-10-25T03:50:59Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Republicans prefer to worship the military at Arlington. If you are not in a stone-garden, you are a nuisance. Worship the dead and the not yet born. Those in between those two points can go hang. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3487 "2016-10-25T03:59:23Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Worship the dead and the not yet born. Those in between those two points can go hang. Again. Like button needed. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3488 "2016-10-25T04:50:54Z")
Yeah, that was pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3489 "2016-10-25T05:03:23Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > I’m rather dismayed by the number of white males who went to college, learned something about critical thinking, You don’t expect people to learn critical thinking until college? If someone hasn’t learned it by then, they won’t learn it then… ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3490 "2016-10-25T05:03:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > That’s actually a lower ratio than I would’ve guessed. Sad. A further six out of eight was him glorying in how fantastic he thinks he is. (Which is probably even more sad). ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3491 "2016-10-25T05:07:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This has nothing to do with the Trump campaign - the PAC is independent. But remember all those emails to foreign leaders that were “oops!” sent last June? Looks like a few of them landed some whales. But they also promised access to Trump which would violate the co-ordination rule between campaigns and PACs. Since the donation never happened, we’ll never know if the PAC was lying about their ability to influence the candidate but odds are, given everything we’ve seen so far this election, there’s a lot of off the books co-ordination going on. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3492 "2016-10-25T05:08:18Z")
Polling is useless right now. So useless… [Trump and Hillary tied 41-41%](http://www.newsweek.com/2016-election-trump-clinton-poll-dead-heat-513082)… oh, wait no, [Hillary up by double digits!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-12-points-over-trump-140559401.html) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3493 "2016-10-25T05:11:33Z")
As Nate Silver is fond of saying, the point of polling aggregates is that you don’t have to litigate every poll. Is IBD more correct or is ABC News? There’s an argument to be made there but, if you combine them with all the rest of the data, the answer tends to shake itself out. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3494 "2016-10-25T05:30:14Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Dear lord, this is internet 101. > > What’s wrong with that team? All the savvy people quit when they heard that Trump was forbidding them from doing opposition research on his past. Oh and and they didn’t even bother to grab all the relevant “.sucks” domain names. Trump.sucks and DonaldTrump.sucks were taken (by opponents of his, not his campaign!), but I just managed to snag “DonaldJTrump.sucks” and “realDonaldTrump.sucks” (his twitter handle). Now taking suggestions for what I should put on them ! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3495 "2016-10-25T05:37:25Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Exception. He did lose for governor of California 2 years later, and gave a famously whiny concession speech then. The fact that he was able to revive and more-or-less re-invent himself in 1967-68 is more a tribute to his own tenacity for power than anything. Actually, since 1960 his loss was a bit of a squeaker, it’s probably an indicator that Joe Kennedy should have given a little more thought to whether he was willing to pay for a landslide… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3496 "2016-10-25T05:39:40Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Worship the dead and the not yet born. Those in between those two points can go hang. It’s long been observed that Republicans care deeply about human life from conception until birth; after birth, it’s on its own. Medicaid? Child health insurance? Education? Fuggetaboutit! So it’s nice to know that there’s another side to Republicans, and they start caring again after death. The unborn and the dead don’t cost Republicans anything, and they aren’t a threat, so they can be worshipped with all the passion of righteousness. The ones in between, though, are so freaking annoying that Republicans have to build gated communites to get the hell away from them. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3497 "2016-10-25T05:46:52Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > All the savvy people quit when they heard that Trump was forbidding them from doing opposition research on his past. Oh and and they didn’t even bother to grab all the relevant “.sucks” domain names. Trump.sucks and DonaldTrump.sucks were taken (by opponents of his, not his campaign!), but I just managed to snag “DonaldJTrump.sucks” and “realDonaldTrump.sucks” (his twitter handle). > > Now taking suggestions for what I should put on them ! Just redirect them. Send one to [flcourts.org](http://flcourts.org), one to etsy and one to [ponymindbleach.com](http://ponymindbleach.com). ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3498 "2016-10-25T06:02:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They already decided it cost too much. Now that the general public is becoming aware of it, I pity any legislator who opposes forgiving that debt. Unless there’s some angle I’ve missed, I predict it sailing through unanimously. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3499 "2016-10-25T06:19:54Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > one to [ponymindbleach.com](http://ponymindbleach.com). Dammit I was supposed to be productive today… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3500 "2016-10-25T06:32:21Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I know, right? I just finished editing a paper for a client that had some calculations in it - while the mathematical specifics were a little different, the situation was roughly analogous; there was more than one way to characterise the data. I preferred it the way economists do the calculations, she preferred it the way financial analysts do. Since it was her paper, she got to do things her way in the end - but I think we were both disappointed that we could not convince the other person of the rightness of our approach. Sorry, but to my uneducated mind, it is an intuitive fact that if you want to add _x_% of _y_ to _y_, you first have to calculate how much _x_% of _y_ is. Then you add that number to _y_. The fact that _y_ is itself expressed as a percentage is admittedly confusing, but it doesn’t change the algebra. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3501 "2016-10-25T06:38:58Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Just redirect them. Send one to [flcourts.org](http://flcourts.org), one to etsy and one to [ponymindbleach.com](http://ponymindbleach.com). I kind of see where you’re going with the flcourts one, but etsy and ponymindbleach ??? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3502 "2016-10-25T06:47:14Z")
Yeah, ObamaCare might get slammed one last time. Wonder why they didn’t postpone that info release until, say, December. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3503 "2016-10-25T06:58:51Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I kind of see where you’re going with the flcourts one, but etsy and ponymindbleach ??? Just, you know, some incomprehensible tangent. Ponymindbleach is like, “arrgh, _more_ Trump, I need some kind of escape!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=174) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=176)