# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3604 "2016-10-26T02:38:37Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Never mind that; give me some pro tips about how to have a life with so few annoyances that you think it’s worth pursuing this until I am thoroughly shamed.

Sorry, can’t help you. We’re clearly in the same boat.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3605 "2016-10-26T03:16:51Z")

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[Newt Gingrich thinks Fox News is biased against Trump.](http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/25/fox-news-contributor-newt-gingrich-slams-fox-news-partisan-outlet-and-part-establishment/214114)

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3606 "2016-10-26T03:25:56Z")

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Didn’t Scott Adams claim a few months back to be “endorsing” Hillary (“for his own safety” or somesuch nonsense as he lives in California)? Now he seems to really be [flailing in frustration](https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/791022440377782272) almost as badly as the Big Cheeto himself:

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> If there are no sponsored terror attacks before Election Day, it means ISIS prefers Clinton. They have the means. Think about it. #trump

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3607 "2016-10-26T03:26:48Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> There’s also no real contradiction. Republicans also don’t believe elderly people should be euthanized without their consent, but that does not imply a commitment to care for them. Republicans don’t want people shot in the streets by criminals, but that does not imply a commitment to provide free care for gunshot wounds.
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> People have a right to not be murdered. Simple as that. No other promise or commitments need to be implied to justify that point of view.

If the axiom was just “murder is wrong,” sure. But when the axiom is “life is precious,” then they are morally the same. It doesn’t matter whether action or inaction produces the consequences that contradict the axiom.

The pro-life position is that the fetus is entitled to life. That’s why abortion is wrong. And thus, likewise, refusing to care for the fetus is wrong. Both result in the fetus’s right to life being violated.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3608 "2016-10-26T03:27:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Newt Gingrich thinks Fox News is biased against Trump.](http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/25/fox-news-contributor-newt-gingrich-slams-fox-news-partisan-outlet-and-part-establishment/214114)

The comment section below the transcript is delicious - there is some fine writing there.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3609 "2016-10-26T03:29:34Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Then, he goes all Hennig Brand, insisting that Trump has been around Gold so long that he (Hannity) is sure he can produce gold from Trump’s urine. On the air. Next on Trump TV.
> 
> Glenn Beck seen looking confused

Thus increasing the world’s gold supply and causing all of those idiots who bought gold at inflated prices from dealers who advertise on Fox News to lose even more money, resulting in their abandoning Fox for Trump TV and it’s distinguished inaugural anchor Sean Hannity. Now it all makes sense.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3610 "2016-10-26T03:36:01Z")

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[Donald Trump’s campaign has spent more on hats than on polling.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-campaign-has-spent-more-on-hats-than-on-polling/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b)  
Quote from the Washington Post article:

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> According to the Federal Election Commission filings, Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has spent $1.8 million on polling from June 2015 through September of this year (the most recent month for which data are available). The report also lists $3.2 million spent on hats.

Pretty well sums up the campaign, really. I wonder how much of a cut he gets from the buying of hats?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3611 "2016-10-26T03:43:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Newt Gingrich thinks Fox News is biased against Trump.](http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/25/fox-news-contributor-newt-gingrich-slams-fox-news-partisan-outlet-and-part-establishment/214114)

Has Trump offered Newt a position with Trump News Network yet?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3612 "2016-10-26T03:54:09Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s campaign has spent more on hats than on polling.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-campaign-has-spent-more-on-hats-than-on-polling/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b)  
> Quote from the Washington Post article:
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> Pretty well sums up the campaign, really. I wonder how much of a cut he gets from the buying of hats?

Well, if he made them on Vistaprint, which it looks like he did, bought 160,000 at a rate of $8 a piece, then sold them to his campaign for $20 a pop, he just made a cool 2 mil. Even more if he was able to dicker them down on the bulk rate. And we’re looking at pure profit if he ended up going full Trump on Vistaprint’s ass!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3613 "2016-10-26T03:54:47Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s campaign has spent more on hats than on polling.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-campaign-has-spent-more-on-hats-than-on-polling/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b)  
> Quote from the Washington Post article:
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> Pretty well sums up the campaign, really. I wonder how much of a cut he gets from the buying of hats?

All hat, no prattle.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3614 "2016-10-26T04:02:09Z")

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[Trump TV crashed on its second day.](http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/25/trump-tv-breaks-night-blames-secret-facebook-conspiracy.html)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3615 "2016-10-26T04:09:29Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> The comment section below the transcript is delicious - there is some fine writing there.

Fox News attracts all the literati.

Where the hallmark of a fine writer is randomly operating the “Shift” key with your forehead.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3616 "2016-10-26T04:13:31Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> All hat, no prattle.

The sun is riz, the sun is set, and Hillary is still winning this election yet.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3617 "2016-10-26T05:34:44Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Ok, did we cover [the ABA story](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/us/politics/donald-trump-lawsuits-american-bar-association.html?_r=1)? The one where the bar association composed a report that depicts Trump as a “libel bully”, who flails at his opponents with (usually) frivolous lawsuits in order to cow and subdue them? The report that has not been published because _the ABA is afraid of being sued?_

…and it goes against their principles to defend themselves pro bono or something?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3618 "2016-10-26T05:57:52Z")

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Rachel Maddow had a fairly [extensive bit](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show) (you have to click on the “Trump out of energy” video in the upper right corner) today comparing the activities of the two campaigns in these final two weeks. Clinton and Kaine - endless fundraisers, an average of 3 or 4 per day each. Trump? No more fundraisers, in fact none since last week, including no fundraisers to help down-ticket Republicans.

So what Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan have done is somehow magically come up with $25 mil (Maddow calls it “dark money” from a PAC associated with McConnell) to give to six Republican senate races, hoping to keep control of the Senate.

Oh, yeah, and Trump’s father has been accused of saying “We don’t rent to (N-word)s” to one of his rental managers back in the 60’s, and very young Donald was there and nodded. This is from said rental manager, now elderly, who was willing to say it on camera. I don’t know how much play this is going to get, it’s pretty thin. If Donald had said it on his own, be it ever so long ago, it might be interesting. As is, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3619 "2016-10-26T07:00:07Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Newt Gingrich thinks Fox News is biased against Trump.](http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/25/fox-news-contributor-newt-gingrich-slams-fox-news-partisan-outlet-and-part-establishment/214114)

Nice sample from the comments:

“In 2 weeks the name Trump is going to be roughly synonymous to an incurable STD”  
Recently thought about going into some of the comments sections on the breitbart site as **Eddie the Deplorable** to offer some helpful advice and general whimsy, but then I thought naaa fuck it.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3620 "2016-10-26T07:23:31Z")

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This sympathetic ad for a local republican is a true palate cleanser. Please reelect Gerald, his wife says. [http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/24/politics/gerald-daugherty-campaign-ad-trnd/](http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/24/politics/gerald-daugherty-campaign-ad-trnd/)  
Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Pro

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3621 "2016-10-26T07:41:45Z")

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I’d vote for him! 😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3622 "2016-10-26T08:11:39Z")

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Did Megan Kelly just [kick olde Newt in the nutz?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/megyn-kelly-and-newt-gingrich-trade-blows-in-escalating-interview-about-the-trump-campaign-025519117.html) (Scroll down).

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3623 "2016-10-26T08:35:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Fox News attracts all the literati.
> 
> Where the hallmark of a fine writer is randomly operating the “Shift” key with your forehead.

Some of the comments are pretty good:

> [@](#):
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> Tyler Fitzgerald
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> In 2 weeks name Trump is going to be roughly synonymous to an incurable STD.

> [@](#):
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> Commander\_Andy\_Kreiss
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> The Chlamydia does sound like a fancy hotel.

> [@](#):
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> ```
> mary5920
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> Drumpf should own the elegant Hotel Chlamydia, with the bigliest Syphilis Ballroom, where you can dine on Drumpf Steaks, and enjoy the crabs.
> 
> ```

> [@](#):
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> ```
> Commander_Andy_Kreiss
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> Come to the prestigious Chlamydia, where the crabs are unlimited, and the Pappiloma Orchestra plays your favorites six night a week. Forever. When reservations are gone, they're gonorrhea.
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> ```

> [@](#):
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> ```
> mary5920
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> Hah. You are the commander. Drinks are on the louse.
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> ```
> Commander_Andy_Kreiss
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> Tee hee.
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