# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3644 "2016-10-26T14:46:42Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s campaign has spent more on hats than on polling.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-campaign-has-spent-more-on-hats-than-on-polling/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b)  
> Quote from the Washington Post article:
> 
> Pretty well sums up the campaign, really. I wonder how much of a cut he gets from the buying of hats?

[They contain the demon spawn (alien parasites) from his hairpiece that allows it to control its followers.](http://images.dailykos.com/images/315590/story_image/TMW2016-10-26color.png?1477078179)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3645 "2016-10-26T14:47:30Z")

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[Nothing like a little voter intimidation from Trump loyalists to brighten your day!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vote-protectors-voter-intimidation_us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc) Fake I.D. badges, harassing potential voters…all an innocent mistake, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3646 "2016-10-26T15:28:20Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Biden mentions he’d take Trump behind the gym.

Behind the gym? No, that’s not Vice-presidential.

_Weehawken.  
Dawn…_

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3647 "2016-10-26T15:34:44Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> I don’t think Michelle Bachmann has a real job these days.
> 
> She is a member of Trump’s advisory council.

And, for that, the Clinton campaign should thank her.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3648 "2016-10-26T15:53:45Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> And, for that, the Clinton campaign should thank her.

Well, OK, but please - no Cabinet post.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3649 "2016-10-26T15:56:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well, OK, but please - no Cabinet post.

Ambassadorship to Antarctica?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3650 "2016-10-26T15:57:25Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Behind the gym? No, that’s not Vice-presidential.
> 
> _Weehawken.  
> Dawn…_

Oh, Burrn!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3651 "2016-10-26T16:03:13Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Nothing like a little voter intimidation from Trump loyalists to brighten your day!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vote-protectors-voter-intimidation_us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc) Fake I.D. badges, harassing potential voters…all an innocent mistake, I’m sure.

This is excellent. By doing this early it converts the D’s vague concerns about Trump’s equally vague calls to mob action into an actual verifiable factual problem. And does it early enough there’s time for officialdom to react. Bigly and nationally.

Election officials everywhere can now be on notice to ensure the vote is not tampered with by vigilantes harassing voters outside. Some of these folks might be surprised to learn that law and order works against them, not just against those “undesirables” they’re harrassing.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3652 "2016-10-26T16:09:40Z")

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Apparently Hillary is a big Cubs fan. Wonder if that will have a slight effect on her popularity in the Cleveland area.

Swing voters have switched loyalty from candidates for even more frivolous reasons, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3653 "2016-10-26T16:15:09Z")

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[Libertarian VP candidate endorses Clinton.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-weld-tells-voters-pick-clinton-over-trump)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3654 "2016-10-26T16:16:32Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Apparently Hillary is a big Cubs fan. Wonder if that will have a slight effect on her popularity in the Cleveland area.

Nah. If she were to do a rally in Cleveland wearing an Indians hat, she’d lose votes. Fickle team allegiance is the worst. (She should probably also not show up in a Cubs hat either, but mentioning the World Series wouldn’t be an issue.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3655 "2016-10-26T16:20:52Z")

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Obama unleashed - and having fun!: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/obama-unleashed/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/obama-unleashed/index.html)

Plenty of surrogates crossing paths in the Buckeye State: [Joe Biden, Jay-Z and a never-ending parade of presidential surrogates: Ohio Politics Roundup - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/10/joe_biden_jay-z_and_a_never-en.html)

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Ambassadorship to Antarctica?

Aw… what did those poor penguins ever do to you?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3656 "2016-10-26T16:26:25Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> With two weeks to go there isn’t already enough money in the war chest? Isn’t this when you should be spending money?

It’s a lot like farming. You have to spend a lot of money early, before you even see anything. A lot of that money actually comes from loans to the campaigns, rather than outright donations. Those people expect to be repaid.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3657 "2016-10-26T16:27:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Nothing like a little voter intimidation from Trump loyalists to brighten your day!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vote-protectors-voter-intimidation_us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc) Fake I.D. badges, harassing potential voters…all an innocent mistake, I’m sure.

What? But Scott Adams, the Persuasion Master, claimed today:

[QUOTE=Scott Adams]  
Trump isn’t encouraging his supporters to bully Clinton supporters. But Clinton has painted Trump and his supporters as Nazi-like deplorables, and that creates moral cover for the bullying you see all over the country against Trump supporters.  
[/QUOTE]

Poor Scott. He’s been in the bag for Trump since the get go, is still firmly predicting a Trump landslide, and the cognitive dissonance this situation is creating is just overwhelming him.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3658 "2016-10-26T16:32:04Z")

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[Dude taunts the TFHB with shopped Oregon ballot](http://www.snopes.com/oregon-ballot-omits-donald-trump/) that lists Clinton/Kaine twice and no Trumpence.

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**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3659 "2016-10-26T17:01:57Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Knock it off.
> 
> If you need to attack another poster, go open a thread in The BBQ Pit.
> 
> [/Moderating]

My apologies to **octopus**.

Wasn’t even a good joke :smack:

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3660 "2016-10-26T18:09:49Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Behind the gym? No, that’s not Vice-presidential.
> 
> _Weehawken.  
> Dawn…_

3AM  
Less Rt 3 Traffic.

All we really ask is a back-hoe and a public works project  
near by to pitchfork his tiny handed ass into.

(I can’t make text smaller on a phone, Fuck You GOP/Putin Hackers.)

I seen the Lights go out on Broadway…  
I saw the Empire State burned to sticks…  
And life went on beyond the Palisades  
Bergen 9w never went w/o a fix  
(Thanks, KellyAnne!)

They held a concert out in Brooklyn,  
I can still see the ashes at my feet…  
People of every race…  
Dared get in their face,  
Low-yield nukes popped to the beat…  
(…oh, to the beat…)

They burned the buildings, then turned northward…  
They burned it all like they were deft,  
The Wealthy paid them to stop at Westchester  
But they were quite wrong…  
(You just can’t stop the Deft…)

They melted bedrock straight through Montauk.  
(Hell, they carpet bombed all I-95)  
Few of the CONN-ers lived to notice it,  
and of the Nukes? Well, Boston took Five…

I seen the lights go out on Broadway,  
With a flash, I saw that Skyline Fall…  
The Privateers took money for The Battery  
Then they all set sail…  
(It was just to Fuck you ALL)

They sent a Carrier up from Norfolk,  
They picked up The Assembly very well,  
They had AM callers go to their radio stations,  
Where they call talk and bitch…  
(where they were all BLOWN TO HELL)

They say those lights were bright on Broadway…  
That was the rumor on the street,  
Before NJ was the Port to Dock.  
And before Bethlehem… was “L.I. Elite”

There are not many who remember,  
The few who do keep it on a locked tap,  
About how NY was…  
Crime Bosses ruling Puss,  
…now bodies float down from… The Gap…

~piano solo~

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3661 "2016-10-26T18:20:23Z")

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Billy Joel’s really got to record that.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3662 "2016-10-26T18:23:52Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > [@Czarcasm](#):
> >
> > [Nothing like a little voter intimidation from Trump loyalists to brighten your day!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vote-protectors-voter-intimidation_us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc) Fake I.D. badges, harassing potential voters…all an innocent mistake, I’m sure.
> 
> This is excellent. By doing this early it converts the D’s vague concerns about Trump’s equally vague calls to mob action into an actual verifiable factual problem. And does it early enough there’s time for officialdom to react. Bigly and nationally.
> 
> Election officials everywhere can now be on notice to ensure the vote is not tampered with by vigilantes harassing voters outside. Some of these folks might be surprised to learn that law and order works against them, not just against those “undesirables” they’re harrassing.

[This is pretty near the last thing the RNC wants](https://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289) since if connected to the GOP, it would violate a consent decree stemming from incidents of voter intimidation in 1982. The consent decree (set to expire next year) prohibits the GOP from conducting the sort of jiggery-pokery TD has in mind, and a violation would open the door to having it extended until 2025.

Which means, of course, that it may be high on TD’s wish list.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3663 "2016-10-26T18:59:04Z")

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I was wondering about that little detail myself. Not sure it will come into play but I’m hoping the Dems are watching closely, just in case.

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