# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3684 "2016-10-26T22:48:19Z")

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[Republicans are already talking about impeaching Hillary.](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/26/conservative-media-are-already-calling-clinton-s-impeachment/214133)

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**Author:** ![Ferris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ferris/32/11573_2.png) [@Ferris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferris)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3685 "2016-10-26T22:54:58Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Donald Trump’s campaign has spent more on hats than on polling.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-campaign-has-spent-more-on-hats-than-on-polling/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b)  
> Quote from the Washington Post article:
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> Pretty well sums up the campaign, really. I wonder how much of a cut he gets from the buying of hats?

Did anyone else think immediately of Monty Python’s Meaning of Life when they read that?

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QJvc\_SxFQ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QJvc_SxFQ)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3686 "2016-10-26T22:58:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Republicans are already talking about impeaching Hillary.](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/26/conservative-media-are-already-calling-clinton-s-impeachment/214133)

Of course they are. This is going to go on for the next 4, perhaps 8 years. The Republicans have proved that they simply cannot work with a Democrat in the White House. They have moved so far to the right, and demonized every Democrat that they Simply. Cannot. Govern.

I expect that they will oppose every single thing she does, and attempt to create as much damage and havoc as they possibly can. They will try to shut down the government (again), and refuse to appoint any official. They will have hearing after hearing after hearing, all trying to dig up something, ANYthing on Clinton. As far as they are concerned, their only goal will be to destroy her. That is what their constituents put them in there to do, right?

They’ll be satisfied with nothing less, and if they have to burn down the country to do it, so be it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3687 "2016-10-26T23:28:13Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Republicans are already talking about impeaching Hillary.](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/26/conservative-media-are-already-calling-clinton-s-impeachment/214133)

From the link,

> [@](#):
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> Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL), who said, “With respect to Hillary Clinton, she will be a unique president if she is elected by the public next November …

If that is the normal usage of “next”, then, yes, I should say so.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3688 "2016-10-26T23:32:46Z")

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Time moves more slowly in Alabama; perhaps it’s still summer there for him. Summer of 1951.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3689 "2016-10-26T23:39:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> From the link,  
> If that is the normal usage of “next”, then, yes, I should say so.

Next as in next, or next as in _next_? Because I think we _should_ elect a President next November, given that it’s October 2016, but you likely mean next November, instead, which would be a unique time to elect a President.

Or you’re making a completely unfunny and overly-pedantic point about electors and slates thereof and outdated procedures.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3690 "2016-10-26T23:43:11Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3691 "2016-10-26T23:44:10Z")

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Any talk of impeaching Clinton is all politics and relies on the GOP praying that they couldn’t actually remove her from office but rather make the impeachment all about looks.

The last thing the GOP wants is for a possibly popular President Kaine to be on the ballot in 2020.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3692 "2016-10-26T23:45:28Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> The last thing the GOP wants is for a possibly popular President Kaine to be on the ballot in 2020.

The phrase “Avenged Sevenfold” swims into view…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3693 "2016-10-26T23:49:26Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Any talk of impeaching Clinton is all politics and relies on the GOP praying that they couldn’t actually remove her from office but rather make the impeachment all about looks.
> 
> The last thing the GOP wants is for a possibly popular President Kaine to be on the ballot in 2020.

Any reason they couldn’t just impeach Kaine right after and put the Speaker in place?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3694 "2016-10-26T23:50:49Z")

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Loser Donald is now just whining that [Clinton got to go to an Adele concert last night](http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/10/26/donald_trump_seems_jealous_that_hillary_clinton_got_to_see_adele_in_concert.html).

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> “I think it’s so unfair because, you know, Hillary Clinton goes to see an Adele concert last night, and everybody says, ‘Oh, wasn’t that nice. Isn’t that wonderful?’” Trump said. “I did eight stops yesterday—three major rallies where, I told you, 25 and 15 and 20 and thousands of people. I did three, plus many other stops.”
> 
> “She goes, she does one stop because she has no energy,” Trump told Stephanopoulos. “She’s got nothing going. She does one stop. And nobody complains about that. Nobody complains when she goes to an Adele concert all night long, while I’m making two speeches at rallies with, you know, massive crowds.”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3695 "2016-10-26T23:52:12Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Facts simply get in the way of their worldview, so they are discarded like empty hot pocket sleeves into the dumpster beside the double wide.

And folks, these people buy Hot Pockets by the [Shame Pack](https://fa74d61d848a20b729bb-0251b36b713060ab3e0e8321940e01ff.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/0043695075120_CF_Horizontal_type_large.jpeg).

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3696 "2016-10-26T23:54:12Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Any reason they couldn’t just impeach Kaine right after and put the Speaker in place?

Well, there’s the little barrier of getting two thirds of the senate to vote to remove. (Which is just as much of a barrier for removing Clinton, of course.)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3697 "2016-10-26T23:59:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “I think it’s so unfair because, you know, Hillary Clinton goes to see an Adele concert last night, and everybody says, ‘Oh, wasn’t that nice. Isn’t that wonderful?’” Trump said. “I did eight stops yesterday—three major rallies where, I told you, 25 and 15 and 20 and thousands of people. I did three, plus many other stops.”
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> “She goes, she does one stop because she has no energy,” Trump told Stephanopoulos. “She’s got nothing going. She does one stop. And nobody complains about that. Nobody complains when she goes to an Adele concert all night long, while I’m making two speeches at rallies with, you know, massive crowds.”

Why would he think anyone would complain about such things? What an odd thing to say.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3698 "2016-10-27T00:05:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Any reason they couldn’t just impeach Kaine right after and put the Speaker in place?

i don’t think they would like president pelosi…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3699 "2016-10-27T00:07:10Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Well, there’s the little barrier of getting two thirds of the senate to vote to remove. (Which is just as much of a barrier for removing Clinton, of course.)

I was figuring if they managed to remove Clinton, Kaine would be sure to follow.  
Why not try to take the Presidency despite the will of the people?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3700 "2016-10-27T00:10:12Z")

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[That man standing behind Donald J. Trump? He is a doctor.](https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10154663072641800/)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3701 "2016-10-27T00:15:47Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Next as in next, or next as in _next_? Because I think we _should_ elect a President next November, given that it’s October 2016, but you likely mean next November, instead, which would be a unique time to elect a President.
> 
> Or you’re making a completely unfunny and overly-pedantic point about electors and slates thereof and outdated procedures.

In my part of the country, we would refer to November 2016 as “this” November and November 2017 as “next” November. I would certainly not call October 29[sup]th[/sup] _next_ Saturday.

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3702 "2016-10-27T00:18:03Z")

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“Trump stops holding high-dollar fundraisers that were raising big cash for the GOP”

Link: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/25/trump-halts-big-money-fundraising-cutting-off-cash-to-the-party/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/25/trump-halts-big-money-fundraising-cutting-off-cash-to-the-party/)

These fundraisers gave most donations to the party, so this is a big deal for GOP House and Senate candidates. (The online fundraising gave most to Trump, and that’s still ongoing.)

I was worried when the Senate found some last minute millions… now we know why they raised it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3703 "2016-10-27T00:49:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Loser Donald is now just whining that [Clinton got to go to an Adele concert last night](http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/10/26/donald_trump_seems_jealous_that_hillary_clinton_got_to_see_adele_in_concert.html).

> [@](#):
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> “I think it’s so unfair because, you know, Hillary Clinton goes to see an Adele concert last night, and everybody says, ‘Oh, wasn’t that nice. Isn’t that wonderful?’” Trump said. “I did eight stops yesterday—three major rallies where, I told you, 25 and 15 and 20 and thousands of people. I did three, plus many other stops.”
> 
> “She goes, she does one stop because she has no energy,” Trump told Stephanopoulos. “She’s got nothing going. She does one stop. And nobody complains about that. Nobody complains when she goes to an Adele concert all night long, while I’m making two speeches at rallies with, you know, massive crowds.”

Wait, what? Trump says Clinton has “no energy” and then in the very same breath, he says “she goes to an Adele concert\*\* all night long\*\*”

Which one is it, Mr. Trump? Can you at least keep your Bullshit straight for a whole 30 seconds before contradicting yourself?

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