# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 187
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3724 "2016-10-27T02:57:24Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > If questioned, Trump or one of his surrogates would claim that Trump meant, “No one complains, all night long, that she went to an Adele concert.” Because really, if the election weren’t rigged, throughout the night of the concert the Twitterverse would have been filled with tweets from people aghast at her lack of stamina. Well, see, Trump runs around like a maniac and goes without sleep campaigning and promoting his brand, so it’s unfair that Clinton gets to take a night off and still be winning bigly. And the fact that nobody’s complaining about her low energy is proof that the media is out to get him and the election is rigged. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3725 "2016-10-27T03:10:48Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Mike “Get Off My Lawn” Pence’s pooch[bites the dust](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3876166/Heavy-hearts-today-Mike-Pence-reveals-dog-13-years-passed-away-touching-Twitter-post-sharing-photo-beloved-beagle.html). > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I prefer family pets that don’t die. Sad. Wow. Pretty sure I’ll remember this the next time you put on an air of superiority. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3726 "2016-10-27T03:13:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think that Trumps surrogates would just claim that he’s right because purple monkey dishwasher. I’ve been laughing myself sick for the last five minutes and can’t explain to my wife why. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3727 "2016-10-27T03:13:53Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Wow. Pretty sure I’ll remember this the next time you put on an air of superiority. WTF are you talking about now? I mean seriously, what the fuck does this even mean? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3728 "2016-10-27T03:16:40Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I prefer family pets that don’t die. Sad. Dude. Too soon. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3729 "2016-10-27T03:19:14Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > WTF are you talking about now? I mean seriously, what the fuck does this even mean? Don’t worry about it. Just have your little laugh about a guy’s dog dying. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3730 "2016-10-27T03:22:02Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > WTF are you talking about now? I mean seriously, what the fuck does this even mean? I think it means something along the lines of pets being inoffensive and blameless. Bagging on a dead doggy isn’t any more classy than the assholes who made fun of Chelsea in 1993 and Amy in 1977. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3731 "2016-10-27T03:23:16Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Don’t worry about it. Just have your little laugh about a guy’s dog dying. Get a grip. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3732 "2016-10-27T03:25:14Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Don’t worry about it. Just have your little laugh about a guy’s dog dying. Honestly, not this it matters to you, but I meant the words I said. I’ve had pets die, I prefer it when they don’t, as I’m sure anyone that’s had a pet does, it’s sad when they do, I wasn’t laughing when I posted, and it was just a one-off comment that happened to be paraphrasing DJT. Sorry I offended you. But I still don’t know what your “air of superiority” comment means. Can you explain that please? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3733 "2016-10-27T03:32:37Z")
In my interactions with you, I’ve found your posts to contain an annoying level of smugness and condescension. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3734 "2016-10-27T03:48:26Z")
Someone’s being a dick here I’m not sure whom it could be me it could be youm. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3735 "2016-10-27T03:58:27Z")
Welcome to the **Elections Pit** ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3736 "2016-10-27T04:11:50Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Don’t worry about it. Just have your little laugh about a guy’s dog dying. S/he was referring to Trump’s heartless comments about POWs, not advocating the death of anyone’s dog. Jeez. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3737 "2016-10-27T04:22:08Z")
Condolences to Gov. Pence and his family. Sorry they lost a beloved pet. And now for something completely different: might be more good news for Hillary on the early-voting front: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/early-voting-statistics-2016-election/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/early-voting-statistics-2016-election/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3738 "2016-10-27T04:29:25Z")
Not sure where else to put this. [Cracked.com shared Donald Trump’s open letter of condolence](http://www.cracked.com/blog/we-just-realized-trump-doesnt-know-what-condolences-means/) to John Travolta and Kelly Preston at the death of their teenage son. It has to be seen to be believed. As if we needed any MORE evidence Trump is a lecherous, narcissistic psychopath. Trump starts by saying how hot Preston and he tried to pick her up, then brags about his pickup skills. He concludes that she must be a very faithful wife to be able to reject his advances, so that makes her a good mother. ---
**Author:** ![Better\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Better\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Better_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3739 "2016-10-27T04:34:01Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > In my interactions with you, I’ve found your posts to contain an annoying level of smugness and condescension. Sorry. I’m trying really hard to imagine what level of smugness and condescension would not be annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3740 "2016-10-27T04:42:50Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And now for something completely different: might be more good news for Hillary on the early-voting front: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/early-voting-statistics-2016-election/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/early-voting-statistics-2016-election/index.html) Fascinating. I’m still trying to get my head around the idea that the elections officials can provide such precise tallies based on party affiliation. Makes it sound like a semi-secret ballot. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3741 "2016-10-27T04:44:44Z")
**Happy**? Can I borrow your Air of Superiority for Halloween? I’ll have it dry cleaned before I give it back. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3742 "2016-10-27T04:58:09Z")
**EVERYONE!** , take your current run of snark over to The BBQ Pit. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3743 "2016-10-27T05:28:52Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If the axiom was just “murder is wrong,” sure. But when the axiom is “life is precious,” then they are morally the same. It doesn’t matter whether action or inaction produces the consequences that contradict the axiom. > > The pro-life position is that the fetus is entitled to life. That’s why abortion is wrong. And thus, likewise, refusing to care for the fetus is wrong. Both result in the fetus’s right to life being violated. I don’t think “life is precious” is found in the Constitution. There is “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” in the Declaration of Independence, but it isn’t clear what strictly formal legal role that document plays in our nation’s legal structure. Not clear to me anyway, I’m sure some people on here understand it perfectly heh Anyway, even if you interpret instances of “all men” in the founding documents to be equivalent to “all people”, well, fetuses still aren’t people. You can argue that that is a legal quibble, or that it should be changed, but it is the current state of affairs, and so you are wrong that a fetus’ right to life is violated. It doesn’t have that right. Neither do cows, nor corn, nor iron or coal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=186) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=188)