# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3764 "2016-10-27T16:00:40Z")

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As long as one listens only to the propaganda, one can readily believe whatever one is supplied. And only what one is supplied.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3765 "2016-10-27T16:00:43Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That’s either an inspired Freudian slip or the best typo of the election season.

The plan shallot be leeked to the press.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3766 "2016-10-27T16:03:35Z")

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I’m wondering if, after he loses, Trump will use his new TV channel (or whatever it is) to do a Festivus _Airing of the Grievances_ that will last longer than Hanukkah.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3767 "2016-10-27T16:11:31Z")

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The Daily Telegraph is reporting that Clinton has a [14 point lead](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/27/hillary-clinton-enjoys-staggering-14-point-lead-over-donald-trum/).

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3768 "2016-10-27T16:14:14Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The plan shallot be leeked to the press.

What a rap scallion you are!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3769 "2016-10-27T16:19:13Z")

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Trump takes the bait _again_.  
[Donald Trump Doubles Down on Insensitive Remarks About the Khan Family](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-doubles-down-on-insensitive-khan-family-comments-w447010)

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> The Republican presidential nominee, 70, spoke about the slain soldier — who lost his life attempting to stop a suicide bomber from attacking his fellow troops —during a Wednesday, October 26, with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos.
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> “Had I been president, Captain Khan would be alive today,” he reiterated. “We wouldn’t have been in this horrible, horrible mistake, the war in Iraq.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3770 "2016-10-27T16:19:55Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> The Daily Telegraph is reporting that Clinton has a [14 point lead](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/27/hillary-clinton-enjoys-staggering-14-point-lead-over-donald-trum/).

And yet, simultaneously, Ohio is getting closer. I’m so confused.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3771 "2016-10-27T16:21:23Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I really don’t understand how people can still believe he’s a good businessman. Someone posted on my feed this morning "do your own research - our country needs a great business leader at our helm " or some such nonsense. someone else posted how Hillary was Hitler.

Nah, she’s got better hair.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3772 "2016-10-27T16:25:00Z")

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“Kh-Aaaaaaaaaann…” - Donald Trump, 2016  
“Mr. Spock, I’m reading shock waves coming up from the planet.”  
“Raise the shields. Engineering… channel warp power into inertial dampeners…”

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3773 "2016-10-27T16:29:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Now, Universe, I know I haven’t been a very good pantheist. but if you could just give me this _one_ sign…

_cough_ Cubs win game two of the World Series _cough_

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3774 "2016-10-27T16:34:14Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Trump takes the bait _again_.  
> [Donald Trump Doubles Down on Insensitive Remarks About the Khan Family](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-doubles-down-on-insensitive-khan-family-comments-w447010)

Excellent, now please lets have Mr Khan attack Trump for trying to use his dead son for political gain. Trump won’t be able to resist responding, and this close before the election it will do some real damage.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3775 "2016-10-27T16:35:24Z")

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So the Cubs are the Harbinger of Trump now are they? Seems fitting that a common goat is what’ll stop them both. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3776 "2016-10-27T17:03:52Z")

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Republican Utah Rep. [Jason Chaffetz](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/jason-chaffetz-utah-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/), earlier this month, on the heels of the Access Hollywood video:

> [@CNN story](#):
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> “My wife, Julie and I, we have a 15-year-old daughter,” Chaffetz had said on “CNN Tonight.” “Do you think I can look her in the eye and tell her that I endorsed Donald Trump for president when he acts like this and his apology? That was no apology, that was an apology for getting caught.”
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> Chaffetz continued: “So I’m not going to put my good name and reputation and my family behind Donald Trump when he acts like this, I just can’t do it.”

Chaffetz, in a tweet last night:

“I will not defend or endorse @realDonaldTrump, but I am voting for him. HRC is that bad. HRC is bad for the USA.”

So, you have principles, Congressman, except when you don’t.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3777 "2016-10-27T17:04:17Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Fascinating. I’m still trying to get my head around the idea that the elections officials can provide such precise tallies based on party affiliation. Makes it sound like a semi-secret ballot. 😉

Since both party affiliation and who has voted are both public, it isn’t difficult to see which party has been hitting the polls bigly. And the last few presidential elections, party affiliation has been a really good indicator of who the voter selected. That didn’t use to be true, I’ve been a registered Democrat since I was 17, but didn’t vote for a Dem for president until 04. Since the GOP went insane, it is much easier to keep track.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Personally, I don’t need much leading for temptation, I can find it quite easily on my own.

Amen.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3778 "2016-10-27T17:09:22Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Trump has the RNC right by the short and curlies. He has already feinted in the direction of my favorite political dream, that he might declare the RNC a bunch of backstabbing traitors, and instruct his onions to vote for _him_, but nobody else downticket. Which would be the recipe for the Great 2016 Republican Massacre! All those carefully manicured and gerrymandered House districts at risk!..

Oh, man. That would be _sweeeeeeet_.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> …Chaffetz, in a tweet last night:
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> “I will not defend or endorse @realDonaldTrump, but I am voting for him. HRC is that bad. HRC is bad for the USA.”
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> So, you have principles, Congressman, except when you don’t.

Now aren’t you glad he clarified that for us all?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3779 "2016-10-27T18:26:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I will not defend or endorse @realDonaldTrump, but I am voting for him. HRC is that bad. HRC is bad for the USA.

Is there a difference between endorsing someone and publicly announcing that you’re going to vote for him?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3780 "2016-10-27T18:29:29Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Is there a difference between endorsing someone and publicly announcing that you’re going to vote for him?

He can tell his daughter that he did the right thing, but he didn’t like it.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3781 "2016-10-27T18:45:30Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> So the Cubs are the Harbinger of Trump now are they? Seems fitting that a common goat is what’ll stop them both. 🙂

I thought the traditional accusation involved sheep. Are we going greek now?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3782 "2016-10-27T18:47:28Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Is there a difference between endorsing someone and publicly announcing that you’re going to vote for him?

I certainly don’t think so, but clearly Chaffetz and others feel like it’s giving them some separation from the stink.

OTOH, it was also Republicans who have argued that things like a county clerk signing a marriage license for a same-sex marriage was tantamount to endorsing the idea of same-sex marriage, so there might be a little hypocrisy seen there.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3783 "2016-10-27T18:48:44Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> He can tell his daughter that he did the right thing, but he didn’t like it.

Like when he got his wife pregnant?

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