# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/361 "2016-10-06T14:56:08Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > As of now, flights tomorrow thru Atlanta are showing no projected delay, and weather forecast for the panhandle shows nothing but uninterrupted sun. Well it’s already raining heavily in Orlando and we had cops coming by our business telling us we should close up soon. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/362 "2016-10-06T14:59:37Z")
This video of Ted Cruz is priceless. Absolutely priceless. [https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/784036216660295680](https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/784036216660295680) His body language is depressed, his tone is un-enthusiastic, his posture is one of embarrassment. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/363 "2016-10-06T15:03:03Z")
He did not speak The Name. “Vote for crunchy goodness, puppies, and the Constitution!”. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/364 "2016-10-06T15:21:23Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Everything Trump says is right. If it’s not right, he simply doesn’t say it anymore, and then nobody can ever say he said it. And if you _do_ say he’s wrong, well, then, you’re being unfair to him. > > Besides, Nevada wouldn’t let him open a casino in Vegas, so they’re obviously haters who’ve been being not very nice to him, and everyone agrees that they’re being unfair to him, because he _says_ they are, and everything he says is right. Your post is an impenetrable fortress of Trumpian logic. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > That I’ll believe when I see it. If AZ goes for Hillary then you can officially declare the Trump candidacy to be a disaster. But I wanna declare his candidacy to be a disaster _nowwwwwww…!_ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/365 "2016-10-06T15:33:52Z")
Wait, let me check with the Central Committee. No, you can’t. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/366 "2016-10-06T15:53:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Back when LBJ was the “peace” candidate. At least Lyndon didn’t drop hydrogen bombs on Hanoi. With Barry AuH2O in the Oval Office, who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/367 "2016-10-06T15:55:35Z")
Those who play with fire Get burned. Those who play with knives Get cut. And I have very serious qualms About those who play with hydrogen bombs; They just go “pffffft.” – can’t remember who wrote this ---
**Author:** ![Celidin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Celidin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celidin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/368 "2016-10-06T16:01:45Z")
What’s weird about the 538 Now Cast map to me right now is that the next-most-likely state for Clinton to win is **Alaska** at 25%. There’s a pretty big probability gap between the current 332 EVs that’s being predicted and increasing that at all. But Alaska? Didn’t think Sec. Clinton would have any chance there. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/369 "2016-10-06T16:21:11Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Wow - never even heard anyone say that he was. Pretty realistic image, though, in the Snopes article. Realistic enough to be my new desktop background on Windows. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/370 "2016-10-06T16:22:47Z")
> [@Celidin](#): > > What’s weird about the 538 Now Cast map to me right now is that the next-most-likely state for Clinton to win is **Alaska** at 25%. There’s a pretty big probability gap between the current 332 EVs that’s being predicted and increasing that at all. > > But Alaska? Didn’t think Sec. Clinton would have any chance there. Maybe lack of good polling? No one polls Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/371 "2016-10-06T16:31:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No one polls Alaska. …or expects the Spanish Inquisition. 🙂 Yeah, I know, silly. But hey, it’s the silly season. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/372 "2016-10-06T16:32:50Z")
[Former GOP Lawmakers chiming in.](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dozens-of-former-gop-lawmakers-announce-opposition-to-trump/ar-BBx4RHS?li=BBnb7Kz) > [@](#): > > “Our party’s nominee this year is a man who makes a mockery of the principles and values we have cherished and which we sought to represent in Congress,” the group said in a statement. > > “Given the enormous power of the office, every candidate for president must be judged rigorously in assessing whether he or she has the competence, intelligence, knowledge, understanding, empathy, judgment, and temperament necessary to keep America on a safe and steady course,” the letter continues. “Donald Trump fails on each of those measures, and he has proven himself manifestly unqualified to be president.” I am stunned. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/373 "2016-10-06T16:36:58Z")
Alaska’s a potentially strong Johnson state. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/374 "2016-10-06T16:37:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Former GOP Lawmakers chiming in. > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > “Our party’s nominee this year is a man who makes a mockery of the principles and values we have cherished and which we sought to represent in Congress,” the group said in a statement. > > > > “Given the enormous power of the office, every candidate for president must be judged rigorously in assessing whether he or she has the competence, intelligence, knowledge, understanding, empathy, judgment, and temperament necessary to keep America on a safe and steady course,” the letter continues. “Donald Trump fails on each of those measures, and he has proven himself manifestly unqualified to be president.” > > I am stunned. Yet, despite being so _manifestly unqualified_, somehow the Republicans currently in office like Ryan and McConnell are unable to see it, or lack the integrity to say it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/375 "2016-10-06T16:42:09Z")
The other guys aren’t running for re-election. Not running for something, running _from_ something. Could be a hint of things to come, a new reborn Republican Party. Shake out the knuckle-walking Trogs, become the Loyal Opposition. Few elections in the wilderness, of course, give the Dems time to make the Obama progress into the _status quo_. Which the Republicans can be conservative about, protect from change. Me? Tequila and bongwater, want some? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/376 "2016-10-06T16:47:40Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Yet, despite being so _manifestly unqualified_, somehow the Republicans currently in office like\*\* Ryan and McConnell are unable to see it, or lack the integrity to say it.\*\* Lack of integrity, no doubt about it. Blaming Obama for the veto override is pretty much the capper. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/377 "2016-10-06T16:49:55Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Lack of integrity, no doubt about it. > Blaming Obama for the veto override is pretty much the capper. I guess they’re saying that it’s Obama’s fault they overrode his veto, because he did not tell them more forcefully why they should not do that. This is the behavior pattern of a small child. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/378 "2016-10-06T16:57:52Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I can’t wait for Language Log to get a hold of this, if only so I can understand exactly how Trump’s mispronouncing a very simple, straightforward name. > > More seriously: This is pathological. This is a sign of some underlying pathology. It makes no fucking sense, it’s hurting him, and yet he’s still doing it. It’s the political equivalent of fecal finger-painting, or hoarding. He can’t be wrong, and he will demand he’s not wrong well past the point of those demands being consistent with a fully-formed adult personality. FWIW, I grew up in New York, and if I read the phonetic transliteration correctly, I say “Nevada” like Trump does. Of course, I’m now\* unlikely to correct anyone on their pronunciation of the name of their home state. - I’m sure that I might have in college, if only to tease and annoy. We used to proclaim to the girl from Iowa that “Iowa is only a post office box in New Jersey”. Little did I know that later I’d live there happily for 5 years. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/379 "2016-10-06T17:57:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The other guys aren’t running for re-election. Not running for something, running _from_ something. > > Could be a hint of things to come, a new reborn Republican Party. Shake out the knuckle-walking Trogs, become the Loyal Opposition. Few elections in the wilderness, of course, give the Dems time to make the Obama progress into the _status quo_. Which the Republicans can be conservative about, protect from change. > > Me? Tequila and bongwater, want some? Yeah, you’re smoking\* something\* funny. I recall Election Night 2008, celebrating with friends and neighbors. One of them called the anti-Obama types (specifically, the ones who would later be pro-Trump types) a “dying breed.” She said it so memorably, we still call her our “dying breed” neighbor. Well, they’re taking their sweet sweet time dying. (I shouldn’t push this lighthearted observation too far, because there is a serious issue of a rise in premature death rates – much of it suicide – among less-educated whites in flyover country…but let me have my fun for a moment). ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/380 "2016-10-06T18:09:43Z")
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