# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3865 "2016-10-28T16:48:17Z")

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**Clinton v Trump**

How about [Donald Trump vs Anchorman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlSYy3TP8IU)?

“Your hair looks stupid!”

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3866 "2016-10-28T17:07:27Z")

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[And let the Twitter storm about how Trump will nuke Denmark as soon as he’s sworn in begin.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/trump-bus-denmark-trnd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3867 "2016-10-28T17:12:31Z")

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On 538, Arizona and Ohio just flipped back to pink.

I’m gonna puke.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3868 "2016-10-28T17:13:03Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> [And let the Twitter storm about how Trump will nuke Denmark as soon as he’s sworn in begin.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/trump-bus-denmark-trnd/index.html)

Eh. They’ve got it coming to them.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3869 "2016-10-28T17:17:45Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> The man plays the part of good businessman to a tee though. You are simply not going to convince regular people that a person who owns entire skyscrappers is not a good businessman. Trump’s life is exactly what people think when they picture someone who is good at business, the only thing that would ever change that is if he falls enough to be living in a trailer park and driving a honda.

I’ve said it more than once during this election year: Trump is a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person is like.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3870 "2016-10-28T17:19:44Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> On 538, Arizona and Ohio just flipped back to pink.
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> I’m gonna puke.

They were always close to 50%. There’s almost no difference between 49 and 51. There has been a tightening over the past few days, but it’s very slight, and even if it continued to tighten at this rate until election day, she’d still win by a comfortable margin.

People are already voting, and the vast majority of everyone else has made up their mind. There’s really not much left that can happen, and any big events are as likely to hurt Trump as to help him.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3871 "2016-10-28T17:21:48Z")

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Reports breaking that FBI has new emails and is reopening the case. Chaffetz is jumping up and down with glee apparently. Here’s a link to Reuters - [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari)

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3872 "2016-10-28T17:24:46Z")

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Markets reacted noticeably, what I noticed first and wondered why.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3873 "2016-10-28T17:24:48Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The Trump campaign [presses Republican House members to support the nominee](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/28/trump-campaign-wants-no-waffling-or-week-knees-from-house-gop/) with “no waffling” or “week [sic] knees”.

He’s just one half of a hissy-fit away from demanding that his followers not vote for any Republican House member who doesn’t endorse, applaud, praise and adore. And there’s still plenty of time to light the fuse.

Groovy.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3874 "2016-10-28T17:24:50Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Reports breaking that FBI has new emails and is reopening the case. Chaffetz is jumping up and down with glee apparently. Here’s a link to Reuters - [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari)

That’s a link to “Russia Today” not Reuters.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3875 "2016-10-28T17:25:59Z")

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Link to Chaffetz on Twitter - [https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/792047597040971776](https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/792047597040971776)  
Nice way to drop a bomb 11 days out from Election Day. I expect things may get unpleasantly close. Shit.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3876 "2016-10-28T17:28:29Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That’s a link to “Russia Today” not Reuters.

[http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html)

You can see it clearly in a chart of the S&P not to mention Mexican Peso futures (which, seriously, is the most watched market benchmark for the election). What it ultimately amounts to before election time I’ve no idea.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3877 "2016-10-28T17:29:32Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That’s a link to “Russia Today” not Reuters.

That’s what I get for trying to post links from my phone.

Nonetheless, it is being reported on MSNBC also. And the link to Chaffetz account is correct.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3878 "2016-10-28T17:32:02Z")

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Here’s the story on NBC - [https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631?client=safari](https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631?client=safari)

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3879 "2016-10-28T17:32:11Z")

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_kicks back of seat_

Are we there yet?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3880 "2016-10-28T17:32:25Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Link to Chaffetz on Twitter - [x.com](https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/792047597040971776)  
> Nice way to drop a bomb 11 days out from Election Day. I expect things may get unpleasantly close. Shit.

Just asking, is there some actual journalism to back this up, or is some mook’s tweet all we’ve got?

ETA: just saw the follow-up post. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3881 "2016-10-28T17:32:27Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Reports breaking that FBI has new emails and is reopening the case. Chaffetz is jumping up and down with glee apparently. Here’s a link to Reuters - [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/58138545c361881f5c8b46dc/amp?client=safari)

Headline says “Reopen” a word that does not appear in the body of the text. They found some e-mails. They are going to look at them. Pretty much it.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3882 "2016-10-28T17:35:34Z")

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You know, if the Dems were really that corrupt, they’d ask the FBI to look into the emails of some of these persistent investigators, to see if any of them had classified information in their emails. After all, they are members of congress, government officers and they do have access to classified information.

How do you Republicans feel about opening this investigation to including them?

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3883 "2016-10-28T17:39:10Z")

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From same link as above, CNBC

The FBI is probing new emails related to Hillary Clinton, FBI Director James Comey said in a Friday letter.

“In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton’s personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony,” Comey wrote.

“In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation,” he added.

“Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant, and I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work, I believe it is important to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony,”

Things like this show people’s wishful biases. Whether it will have a big impact (no way to tell from that) as some people other places would immediately assume, or more relevantly here ‘is it some mook’s claim?’ when major news org links were already posted, and one could instantly find them oneself. 🙂

[http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3884 "2016-10-28T17:40:10Z")

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Hard to see how just “re-opening the investigation”, if that’s what they’re doing, has any significant effect. Sure, it doesn’t help, but whose opinion would this sway? I don’t think there’s anyone left that thinks Hillary is 100% honest and straight forward, and I don’t see how any conclusion could possibly be reached and put forward in the next 11 days.

Can anyone check PredictIt (I can’t check it right now)? This morning, I believe Hillary was at about .80 and Trump at about .20; it’d be interesting to see if this news has changed it significantly.

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