# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 196
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3905 "2016-10-28T18:48:23Z")
The Washington Post has changed its headline from “reopens investigation” to “takes new investigative steps.” > **[Computer seized in Weiner probe prompts FBI to take new steps in Clinton...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-to-conduct-new-investigation-of-emails-from-clintons-private-server/2016/10/28/0b1e9468-9d31-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html)** > > The announcement could reshape the presidential campaign with less than two weeks to go. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3906 "2016-10-28T18:49:00Z")
Evidently the investigation was never technically closed. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3907 "2016-10-28T18:51:28Z")
Come on, Comey. Come out and say what the hell is going on! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3908 "2016-10-28T18:53:25Z")
“Reopen” has bigger implications, that the case _was_ closed, but the evidence so powerful that it negates such a determination. And what, pray, was this “unrelated case”? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3909 "2016-10-28T18:56:18Z")
I think Comey is still a “team player”, with an eye to the possible benefits from a Republican administration. I think he’s throwing as much shade as he can without actually committing himself to anything like “illegal” or “indictable”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3910 "2016-10-28T19:01:08Z")
As I noted in the other thread, we already have the previous investigation to look at. As Comey said when he declared that no indictment was recommended: (with a lot of bones tossed to the Republicans) "to make those decisions [to indict] responsibly they must consider “the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.” I do not see any references in the recent letter to a change on how the actions made before are different now in this “reopening” or that there is a difference on what was done before by Clinton and aids. Once again: So far the FBI is talking about what other emails _ **may** _ be marked as clasified, and that they can not report on how useful they are right now. Well, they are useful for politicians that want to make a lot of hay. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3911 "2016-10-28T19:04:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Reopen” has bigger implications, that the case _was_ closed, but the evidence so powerful that it negates such a determination. And what, pray, was this “unrelated case”? The phrase “emails that appear to be pertinent” seems pretty vague. You’d think that pertinence or non-pertinence would be obvious. It may be that any connection is tenuous. Comey has been under a lot of pressure from Republicans. This could be his way of reducing that pressure - find something, anything, so that he can say he’s investigating, at least till after the election. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3912 "2016-10-28T19:04:30Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > But seriously folks, Comey could conceivably clarify this in a way that reduces its impact. Maybe it’s a very small number of emails. Maybe he could say something along the lines of ‘just making sure all the i’s are dotted’. But more likely IMO there won’t be further official comment in 11 days, just like the process was pretty ‘dark’ and leak proof for months originally. There is no way in hell there won’t be further official comment. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3913 "2016-10-28T19:08:41Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Honestly, I’d have to see evidence she was sacrificing babies on an altar of bones in order to sway my vote. > > And my vote wouldn’t sway to Trump anyway. So if she were sacrificing babies on a marble altar, that’d still be ok? How about an altar of still beating hearts? Or an altar of babies? (:), just in case.) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3914 "2016-10-28T19:09:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > There is no way in hell there won’t be further official comment. Do you mean before Nov. 8? I’d take the under on that one for sure. Not saying clarification is unlikely, but it wouldn’t shock me if this is the last word from the FBI before we vote. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3915 "2016-10-28T19:11:21Z")
I do mean before Nov 8th. He will be under unprecedented pressure from every conceivable direction to clarify. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3916 "2016-10-28T19:13:34Z")
Meh. Of course this will be reported on hysterically by both sides but it does seem that Comey is appropriate. There are now emails that may or may not be pertinent but certainly any potentially pertinent information deserves to be evaluated. If they are determined to be pertinent then perhaps the case could be re-opened. Ignoring potentially meaningful information would be inappropriate. Looking at it without informing Congress would be inappropriate. Delaying telling Congress would be inappropriate. Declaring this as “re-opening” is inaccurate but gets the attention. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3917 "2016-10-28T19:17:34Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The Washington Post has changed its headline from “reopens investigation” to “takes new investigative steps.” > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-to-conduct-new-investigation-of-emails-from-clintons-private-server/2016/10/28/0b1e9468-9d31-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-to-conduct-new-investigation-of-emails-from-clintons-private-server/2016/10/28/0b1e9468-9d31-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html) The MSM in general seems to be backing away from the “reopens” angle. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3918 "2016-10-28T19:18:17Z")
> **[The FBI is investigating new emails related to Hillary Clinton uncovered in...](https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-re-opening-investigation-into-hillary-private-e-mail-server-2016-10)** > > The FBI will reopen its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server, FBI Director James Comey wrote in a letter on Friday. > [@](#): > > NBC’s Pete Williams reported Friday that the newly discovered emails were not among those originally withheld by Clinton or her campaign and were found on a “device” in a separate investigation. The decision to reopen the investigation was not related to emails released by WikiLeaks or to Russian hacking, Williams said. > > A US official also told the Associated Press that the n ewly discovered emails relating to the FBI’s Clinton investigation did not come from her private server. Curiouser and curiouser. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3919 "2016-10-28T19:23:50Z")
Every Clinton scandal eventually comes back to a Weiner. (I’m sorry. I had to.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3920 "2016-10-28T19:26:05Z")
While admitting guilt is certainly called for, begging for mercy would be more appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3921 "2016-10-28T19:33:30Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > But he’s not even sure that it IS relevant. He’s just saying stuff that may or may not be relevant has come to light. > > Reporting that 11 days before the election is super-odd, especially when they’ve been so tight-lipped about whether they are, say, investigating Trump’s role in the Russian hacking. Would Comey be under any legal obligation to keep the committee informed of any re-opening of an investigation(or whatever you wish to call it) in a timely manner? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3922 "2016-10-28T19:35:27Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > Would Comey be under any legal obligation to keep the committee informed of any re-opening of an investigation(or whatever you wish to call it) in a timely manner? That’s what’s being alleged by some former DOJ people on Twitter. I haven’t seen any solid reporting on it yet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3923 "2016-10-28T19:36:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > While admitting guilt is certainly called for, begging for mercy would be more appropriate. He knew what he was doing. Mercy is for the weak. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3924 "2016-10-28T19:36:49Z")
Twitter (that unimpeachable source) says that it’s 3 emails, not from HRC, from Weiner’s phone. Which sounds like nothing, if true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=195) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=197)