# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3965 "2016-10-28T22:02:42Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> The New Your Times is reporting thousands of emails, not 3.
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> “”"WASHINGTON — Emails from Hillary Clinton’s private server were found after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices once shared by Anthony D. Weiner and his estranged wife, Huma Abedin, a top aide to Mrs. Clinton, federal law enforcement officials said Friday.
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> The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner, a former Democratic congressman from New York, sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the thousands… “”"  
> [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html)

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’m trying to grasp the connection between the Weiner investigation and the Clinton emails…
> 
> could it be: the FBI is poring over a raft of Weiner emails, and somebody notices that there’s a bunch that have the same IP address as the famous Private Server. Probably from Weiner’s ex-wife, using Hillary’s email.
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> Ding ding, alarms go off, it goes up the chain to Comey and he says “oh crap, we gotta go public with this.”
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> It could turn to be just a bunch of mundane stuff between Weiner and whatshername, not even involving Hillary, much less classified info.
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> Fingers crossed.

Isn’t it more likely that the emails at issue were emails sent from Clinton to her aide, Huma Abedin?

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3966 "2016-10-28T22:07:55Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Yes, one of Sam Wang’s themes this election season is that news doesn’t move the polls significantly or permanently. This is a good test of that theory.

I believe the debates had a significant impact on the fates of Hillary and the Tangerine Man. Which reminds me…

(With apologies to Bob Dylan)

Hey Mr. Tangerine Man  
Build a wall for me  
And make America great again  
I’m begging you

Hey Mr. Tangerine Man  
Send a Tweet for me  
The Apprentice or Miss Universe  
I’m following you  
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3967 "2016-10-28T22:21:34Z")

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I don’t see Trump as much of an n-word guy. More likely, ‘‘the blacks.’’ Which he has so eloquently expressed in his speeches as ‘‘The African Americans.’’ :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3968 "2016-10-28T22:24:17Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Right, but what I meant is that for strategical purposes it might _not_ make sense to do it now, because statistically, it is probably too late in the election cycle to make much difference. The same is probably also true for the e-mails, whatever might be in them. Nobody is changing their vote to Trump because of those e-mails.
> 
> **Ambrosio** ’s linked article, and the argument behind it, is pretty interesting. Worth checking out.

Good point, I guess I’m operating with too much of a political hair trigger right now. Fortunately Sam Wang always seems to say what is necessary to bring me down to earth. Now if you don’t mind, my “Make America Great Again” in-laws are due here for dinner at 6:30 so I only have 6 minutes to finish this bottle of malbec - Skdo23 out.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3969 "2016-10-28T22:25:08Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> Good point, I guess I’m operating with too much of a political hair trigger right now. Fortunately Sam Wang always seems to say what is necessary to bring me down to earth. Now if you don’t mind, my “Make America Great Again” in-laws are due here for dinner at 6:30 so I only have 6 minutes to finish this bottle of malbec - Skdo23 out.

Yikes. Good luck.

And yes, this entire election cycle has been hair-trigger stressful.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3970 "2016-10-28T22:34:20Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> And yes, this entire election cycle has been hair-trigger stressful.

for about the last 20+ months

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3971 "2016-10-28T22:36:22Z")

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> [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](#):
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> Isn’t it more likely that the emails at issue were emails sent from Clinton to her aide, Huma Abedin?

It seems a stretch that those would have been part of the Weiner investigation.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3972 "2016-10-28T22:42:32Z")

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The device was part of the Weiner investigation and everything on it became fair game. Huma discussing how Foster was murdered whatever.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3973 "2016-10-28T22:48:34Z")

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Are Hillary’s nether regions classified? I mean, what if she and Tony were texting and, you know… Oh God, I don’t even want to think about it! 😃

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3974 "2016-10-28T22:55:28Z")

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_I’d grab that!_

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3975 "2016-10-28T22:56:55Z")

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This is supposedly tomorrows NY Post cover.  
Click on the photo to see full size.

> <https://twitter.com/nypost/status/792121855008202752/photo/1>

Dickileaks LOL priceless

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3976 "2016-10-28T23:03:08Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I don’t see Trump as much of an n-word guy. More likely, ‘‘the blacks.’’ Which he has so eloquently expressed in his speeches as ‘‘The African Americans.’’ :rolleyes:

Where’s my black guy?  
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3977 "2016-10-28T23:13:31Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Where’s my black guy?

[Oops! Trump Mistook a Black Supporter at His Rally for a Protester and Called Him a “Thug”](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/28/black_trump_supporter_is_booted_from_a_campaign_rally_after_trump_mistakes.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3978 "2016-10-28T23:28:00Z")

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Well, that’s not the n-word, that’s just a t-word. Maybe the guy doesn’t even\* know \*he’s a thug, maybe thug life chose him and didn’t tell him!

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3979 "2016-10-29T00:34:15Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Yikes. Good luck.

Thanks. Although, in all fairness I’ve always felt that my kids could not have been blessed with better grandparents and this evening reminded me of that.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3980 "2016-10-29T00:41:01Z")

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> [@skdo23](#):
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> Thanks. Although, in all fairness I’ve always felt that my kids could not have been blessed with better grandparents and this evening reminded me of that.

This segues nicely with a point I just made on Facebook…

> [@](#):
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> \<For a while I took the position that all Trump voters are racist, sexually predatory bigots\>, but then I reasoned that 40% of the US population and 70% of uneducated white males are probably not terrible people, and that it annoys me when people assume I approve of every terrible thing Democrats do, so it wouldn’t be really fair to assume Trump voters approve of every single thing he does. I still have some seriously, strong, deeply held gut-wrenchingly emotional views on the kind of person he is and the danger to our culture of embracing the lowest common denominator of civil discourse, yeah, I have fantasies of spitting in his face. But I refuse to believe 40% of the people in this country are monsters.

This election is tearing at the moral fabric of our nation and it ain’t just the GOP.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3981 "2016-10-29T00:51:51Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This election is tearing at the moral fabric of our nation and it ain’t just the GOP.

QFT!

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3982 "2016-10-29T00:58:09Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> This segues nicely with a point I just made on Facebook…  
> _But I refuse to believe 40% of the people in this country are monsters._.

Would ya believe that 40% are stupid?

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3983 "2016-10-29T01:06:27Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Would ya believe that 40% are stupid?

I do think that in reality it is about 20% who are. The other 20% do know better, but they have the touch of evil that tells them that the party should come ahead of the country.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/3984 "2016-10-29T01:10:31Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Would ya believe that 40% are stupid?

Impressionable, maybe.

The people I know of who are voting for Trump aren’t doing it because they think he’s just wonderful. They’re doing it because they are absolutely terrified of Hillary Clinton. As far as I can tell that terror is based on partisan bullshit, but it’s a real fear.

America is just becoming too damned credulous.

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