# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4525 "2016-11-03T16:56:40Z")

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The upside is that D voters are more likely to go vote if they think their is important.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4526 "2016-11-03T16:57:59Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Has Trump addressed this at all? Any normal candidate would be frantically denouncing this and distancing himself as quickly as possible.

He’s been too busy [singling out embedded reporters for harassment.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-katy-tur-florida-rally_us_581aa7b8e4b0c43e6c1e1795?section=us_politics) What a class act!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4527 "2016-11-03T17:07:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> He’s been too busy [singling out embedded reporters for harassment.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-katy-tur-florida-rally_us_581aa7b8e4b0c43e6c1e1795?section=us_politics) What a class act!

She’s the same one who [Secret Service agents escorted to her car](http://theslot.jezebel.com/the-secret-service-protected-reporter-katy-tur-after-do-1785156408) after Trump supporters threatened her at a rally.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4528 "2016-11-03T17:15:25Z")

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CNN Politics on six ways Trump can cobble together an Electoral College win: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-path-to-270-scenarios/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-path-to-270-scenarios/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4529 "2016-11-03T18:31:58Z")

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Supposedly Fox News is blowing up with sources saying that it’s “likely” Clinton is going to be indicted… for something? Anyone knows what this is about, if anything and if true?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4530 "2016-11-03T18:34:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> CNN Politics on six ways Trump can cobble together an Electoral College win: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-path-to-270-scenarios/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-path-to-270-scenarios/index.html)

Yeah, we can sure trust these 24-hour news channels to downplay controversy and unlikely possibilities in the interest of objective truth. Otherwise, if they spent all their time pandering to everyone’s worst fears and fondest hopes, people would watch them more and their revenue and profits would go up. We know they don’t want that.

Really, people talk about Citizens United, but I’m not sure that 24-hour news channels aren’t as big a threat to democracy. And no, I don’t have a solution, except for myself not to watch.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4531 "2016-11-03T19:11:30Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> …  
> Really, people talk about Citizens United, but I’m not sure that 24-hour news channels aren’t as big a threat to democracy. And no, I don’t have a solution, except for myself not to watch.

This.

In a society where booze is readily available it’s up to each of us not to overdo it. In a society where drugs are readily available it’s up to each of us not to over do them. In a society where gambling is readily available it’s up to each of us not to overdo it. In a society where fast cars, loose women, loud music, and guns are readily available it’s up to each of us not to overdo them. In a society where your Mom will feed you while you live in World of Warcraft it’s up to each of us not to overdo it.

Useless sources of fake “information” is no different. It’s up to each of us not to overdo them.

Or not. But if not, expect to suffer the consequences for your crappy judgment.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4532 "2016-11-03T19:18:50Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Supposedly Fox News is blowing up with sources saying that it’s “likely” Clinton is going to be indicted… for something? Anyone knows what this is about, if anything and if true?

I just went on the Fox News website and saw nothing to this effect.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4533 "2016-11-03T19:22:33Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I just went on the Fox News website and saw nothing to this effect.

This is the trouble with believing FOX News.

> **[Oops: Fox anchor retracts claim of 'likely' Clinton indictment after...](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/oops-fox-anchor-retracts-claim-of-likely-clinton-indictment-after-conservatives-sites-go-wild/)**
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> Fox News anchor Bret Baier admitted on Thursday that he had been wrong when he reported that Hillary Clinton would "likely" be indicted by federal authorities, a claim that sent conservative websites into a frenzy. "We talked to two separate sources...

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> But on Thursday, Baier said that his characterization of the news was simply not true.
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> “I want to be clear — I want to be clear about this,” he explained. “I pressed the sources again and again what would happen [if Hillary Clinton wins]. I got to the end of that and said, ‘They have a lot of evidence that would likely lead to an indictment.’”
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> “But that’s not, that’s inartfully answered,” Baier continued. “That’s not the process. That’s not how you do it. You have to have a prosecutor. If they don’t move forward with a prosecutor with the DOJ, there would be, I’m told, a very public call for an independent prosecutor to move forward.”
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> “There is confidence in the evidence, but for me to phrase it like I did, of course that got picked up everywhere, but the process is different than that.”

In other words, more RW lies.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4534 "2016-11-03T19:24:28Z")

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Pat, I’d like to buy a coherent sentence please. Just one will do. Otherwise I’m just staring slack-jawed at the word salad Vanna is smiling at while holding that weird pose.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4535 "2016-11-03T19:45:35Z")

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538 has Nevada, Arizona, Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina and Florida all pink.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4536 "2016-11-03T19:50:05Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 538 has Nevada, Arizona, Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina and Florida all pink.

Don’t worry about NV: [http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the-nevada-early-voting-blog](http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the-nevada-early-voting-blog)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4537 "2016-11-03T19:52:50Z")

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[Another House Republican leader calls for Hillary’s impeachment.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/homeland-security-chairman-says-hillary-clinton-committed-treason)

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4538 "2016-11-03T20:04:52Z")

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[GOP Senate Minority Whip Says Impeachment Talk Premature](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-cornyn-hillary-clinton-impeachment_us_581b5c65e4b08f9841adc76d)

Just for the other side from a GOP official.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4539 "2016-11-03T20:16:51Z")

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Can Trump stay at least semi-disciplined until Election Day?: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-2016-election-campaign-discipline/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/donald-trump-2016-election-campaign-discipline/index.html)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4540 "2016-11-03T20:17:23Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> [GOP Senate Minority Whip Says Impeachment Talk Premature](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-cornyn-hillary-clinton-impeachment_us_581b5c65e4b08f9841adc76d)
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> Just for the other side from a GOP official.

> [@](#):
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> **“Well, I think that’s premature myself, to be talking about that because of course she hasn’t been elected or sworn into office,”** Cornyn said. “And unless there is some additional evidence that the FBI director and the [Justice Department] would take to a grand jury, then she is not likely to be convicted of a crime.”

In other words, “Let’s wait until she’s elected before talking about thwarting the will of the people.”

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4541 "2016-11-03T20:20:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Don’t worry about NV: [http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the-nevada-early-voting-blog](http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the-nevada-early-voting-blog)

I haven’t seen anything that says early voting is predictive.  
[538: Don’t read too much into early voting](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-read-too-much-into-early-voting/)

[RCP: Early Voting a Poor Predictor of Final Results](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/02/early_voting_a_poor_predictor_of_final_results.html)

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4542 "2016-11-03T20:21:01Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> In other words, “Let’s wait until she’s elected before talking about thwarting the will of the people.”

Noticed you didn’t bold the part where he said she was “not likely to be convicted of a crime.”

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4543 "2016-11-03T20:23:58Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The upside is that D voters are more likely to go vote if they think their is important.

Exactly. A little competition can be very motivating.  
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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4544 "2016-11-03T20:25:09Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Supposedly Fox News is blowing up with sources saying that it’s “likely” Clinton is going to be indicted… for something? Anyone knows what this is about, if anything and if true?

I think it’s more likey that Trump will be charged and convicted of sexual assault.  
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