# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 230
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4585 "2016-11-04T04:29:05Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’ve volunteered for Hillary several times here in Ohio, both phonebanking and canvassing, and the campaign has been _very_ encouraging, even pushy, about early voting by supporters. I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere comment that based on recent polling, they think Ohio’s going for Trump. Obviously, you have some bias, working for the campaign itself (bias in that you’re not likely to hear bad news from them, and less likely to run across Trump supporters), but what do you think? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4586 "2016-11-04T04:37:56Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > [GOP Senate **Minority** Whip Says Impeachment Talk Premature](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-cornyn-hillary-clinton-impeachment_us_581b5c65e4b08f9841adc76d) Wait. The GOP gets both the Majority AND Minority Whips? Hardly seems fair. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4587 "2016-11-04T04:39:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Here’s Seth Meyers, hilariously comparing the relative scandals of Hillary and Trump. The last two minutes are the best: [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/opinion/5-reasons-to-vote-trump.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/opinion/5-reasons-to-vote-trump.html) Meyers sounds suspiciously like Nicholas Kristof these days. 😃[I think you meant this video](https://youtu.be/9v97xH6Bof0?t=6m21s), which is indeed awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4588 "2016-11-04T04:42:25Z")
[The head of the FBI Agents union has quit his job with the FBI and written an open letter criticizing Comey for politicizing the FBI.](http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/04/fbi-unions-president-just-quit-penned-scathing-open-letter-blasting-comey/) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4589 "2016-11-04T04:47:25Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > In her odd speech today, Melania plagiarized Marla Maples: “if you could dream it, you could become it” 🙂 I dream of becoming a massive malignant tumor growing out of Trump’s forehead, directly underneath the orange ferret whose mangy fur overhangs it. But I doubt I will become it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4590 "2016-11-04T04:54:35Z")
If you vote for a Democrat, you will go to Hell. No, seriously, I swear, I am not making this up! I couldn’t make this up! \*\*A Catholic church bulletin says voting for Democrats will result in eternal damnation \*\* [http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html](http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html) > [@](#): > > …But at least one person in a San Diego Catholic church took things a step further in recent weeks. In an insert to the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church’s weekly bulletin on Oct. 16, a flier told parishioners that “it is a mortal sin to vote Democrat,”… It might almost be worth Trump winning to watch the Inauguration, see if the Bible catches fire when he puts his hand on it. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4591 "2016-11-04T04:59:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > \*\*A Catholic church bulletin says voting for Democrats will result in eternal damnation > \*\* > [http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html](http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html) > . Great, if they want to get into partisan politics, make the Church pay taxes like everybody else\*. Deficit gone, budget balanced. \*But Trump. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4592 "2016-11-04T05:02:44Z")
Well, the actual article makes it clear that the local Catholic authorities are not in cahoots. It was a piece of paper _inserted_ into the printed bulletin. Or maybe that’s just what they _want_ you to think! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4593 "2016-11-04T05:10:14Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Jon Stewart reads the tweets from his 2013 Twitter war with F\*\*kface von Clownstick](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEgplXwNWk). Wait, does [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEgplXwNWk&t=4m42s) mean bad-hair-guy wants to grab him? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4594 "2016-11-04T05:25:43Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > In lighter news, [Putin grants action star Steven Seagal Russian citizenship.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-grants-action-star-steven-seagal-russian-citizenship-101618186.html) Isn’t he on Trump’s shortlist for Secretary of Defense? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4595 "2016-11-04T05:27:42Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If you vote for a Democrat, you will go to Hell. No, seriously, I swear, I am not making this up! I couldn’t make this up! > > \*\*A Catholic church bulletin says voting for Democrats will result in eternal damnation > \*\* > [http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html](http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html) > > It might almost be worth Trump winning to watch the Inauguration, see if the Bible catches fire when he puts his hand on it. > [@TonySinclair](#): > > Great, if they want to get into partisan politics, make the Church pay taxes like everybody else\*. Deficit gone, budget balanced. > > \*But Trump. > [@elucidator](#): > > Well, the actual article makes it clear that the local Catholic authorities are not in cahoots. It was a piece of paper _inserted_ into the printed bulletin. > > Or maybe that’s just what they _want_ you to think! I’m not sure what to think. The inserted flier was distributed on October 16, but on October 30, the actual bulletin carried an article that went significantly beyond Church teaching in criticizing Secretary Clinton’s views and policy positions (using a quotation from one of her speeches out of context to mischaracterize her positions, to boot). Both the diocese and the parish have disavowed the flier and the bulletin, leaving it something of a mystery how they got into materials that were distributed at Sunday Mass. I imagine someone at the archbishop’s office will be having a chat with the pastor at Immaculate Conception about how much autonomy the people who put together the bulletin should be permitted. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4596 "2016-11-04T06:17:26Z")
At the very least, a critical Mass. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4597 "2016-11-04T06:29:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Wait, does [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEgplXwNWk&t=4m42s) mean bad-hair-guy wants to grab him? F\*ckface Von Clownstick. John Leibovitz is no pussy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4598 "2016-11-04T07:53:29Z")
Rudy Giuliani, who has previously bragged about having connections with the FBI, [told Fox News two days before Comeygate broke out](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/rudy-giuliani-brags-about-ties-at-the-fbi-and-don-lemon-just-pointed-the-finger-at-him/) about “a surprise or two you’re going to hear about in the next two days.” Seems at this point that it’s becoming harder to deny that the Trump campaign has been colluding with someone in the civil service to attempt to throw the election. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4599 "2016-11-04T08:30:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > At the very least, a critical Mass. Ba - dum - _tish_ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4600 "2016-11-04T11:43:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I will have to say that I like this comment at the Reddit Clinton sub: > > “This will always be remembered as the presidential election in which the KKK, the KGB and the FBI all supported the same candidate.” - Victor Laszlo on Twitter. 🙂 Hands up: who’s now got that song from _Hair_ as an earworm? > [@AnalogSignal](#): > > In her odd speech today, Melania plagiarized Marla Maples: “if you could dream it, you could become it” 🙂 A pity she didn’t go with “Don’t dream it, be it”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4601 "2016-11-04T11:49:20Z")
Two days in a row of no real change in the state of the race. It looks like Trump may have peaked. The number that should worry Clinton fans though is that her approval ratings have gotten worse. She’s not only 6-7 points ahead of Trump in approval. Of course, Trump can still win if there is even a small polling error or turnout is different than expected. Assuming no more bombshells over the next 4 days, the polling going into Election Day should be Clinton+2 or so. So a dramatic election night, but Clinton still favored. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4602 "2016-11-04T11:55:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Rudy Giuliani, who has previously bragged about having connections with the FBI, [told Fox News two days before Comeygate broke out](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/rudy-giuliani-brags-about-ties-at-the-fbi-and-don-lemon-just-pointed-the-finger-at-him/) about “a surprise or two you’re going to hear about in the next two days.” > > Seems at this point that it’s becoming harder to deny that the Trump campaign has been colluding with someone in the civil service to attempt to throw the election. Did you watch Don Lemon interview Michael Moore? They showed that clip of Giuliani to Moore, and Moore was calling for someone to investigate it. Giuliani was cackling with glee last Wednesday, as he announced that “something big” would be coming out in the next couple of days. Giuliani used to be Comey’s boss no? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4603 "2016-11-04T12:08:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If you vote for a Democrat, you will go to Hell. No, seriously, I swear, I am not making this up! I couldn’t make this up! > > \*\*A Catholic church bulletin says voting for Democrats will result in eternal damnation > \*\* > [http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html](http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article112450802.html) > > It might almost be worth Trump winning to watch the Inauguration, see if the Bible catches fire when he puts his hand on it. But voting for a rapist gives you a free ticket right to the pearly gates. Gotcha. And bearing false witness must no longer be a mortal sin either… Heaven must then be hell, and hell is actually heaven. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4604 "2016-11-04T12:29:24Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > … > Heaven must then be hell, and hell is actually heaven. Hell would certainly have all the funner partiers. And hence funner parties. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=229) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=231)