# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4625 "2016-11-04T16:31:53Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I didn’t think it was a tenable position for the past year when they’ve been doing it, but the did it and have suffered no discernible repercussions for it, and with the possibility of a Trump presidency still there, might still pull off stealing a supreme court justice.

Well, the “The next president should choose because the Will of the People!” argument sort of goes out the door next week.

But the technical answer is that yes, the GOP Senate majority could theoretically block any more nominees indefinitely.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4626 "2016-11-04T16:33:31Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> Ooh, I didn’t know about that one; does sound good.
> 
> I guess this comes down to PEC being much more steady than 538 with numbers/predictions?
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> So, after the election, will anyone gather together all the polls/poll aggregates/psychics/etc. who predicted the states correctly (or close to) not only on Nov. 7, but on Nov. 1, Oct. 8, or even Sept. 8? You know, so we know who we’re supposed to pay more attention to a week or a month out?

I’m predicting that 538 doesn’t go 50/50 this year. That’s about as bold a prediction as I’m willing to make!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4627 "2016-11-04T16:41:06Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> OK, but what kind of bug? If it’s just one of those little gnats and it flies in oyur mouth and you swallow it you’re like “ew” but it happens. If Trump gets over 240 EVs, I want Mr. It’s All Over, Don’t Mind All The Polls Saying It’s Not, Everyone Else Is a Hobbyist to eat a big bug, something you gotta chew.

What’s the state bug of Texas? Fire ant? Cockroach? Scorpion?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4628 "2016-11-04T16:45:23Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I don’t know about easier. But I’m gonna bet it’s a lot more fun. For particularly nasty definitions of “fun”.

“Come back heah, Sidney! I wanna…_chastise_ ya…”  
– Lt Kello in _Sweet Smell of Success_

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4629 "2016-11-04T16:47:30Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> OK, but what kind of bug? If it’s just one of those little gnats and it flies in oyur mouth and you swallow it you’re like “ew” but it happens. If Trump gets over 240 EVs, I want Mr. It’s All Over, Don’t Mind All The Polls Saying It’s Not, Everyone Else Is a Hobbyist to eat a big bug, something you gotta chew.

Did he put a dent in your “it’s still a coin toss!” T-shirt sales? 😛

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4630 "2016-11-04T16:48:14Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What’s the state bug of Texas? Fire ant? Cockroach? Scorpion?

According to [this site](http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/states/united-states/texas) their state insect is a monarch butterfly.

And is just me, or does having that many symbols just seem silly? One plant, one animal, and that’s enough. Actually, even that’s not necessary.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4631 "2016-11-04T16:57:46Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> According to [this site](http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/states/united-states/texas) their state insect is a monarch butterfly.

If _Ranger Rick_ taught me right, those taste horrible and other butterflies mimic them to prevent being eaten.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4632 "2016-11-04T17:03:23Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’m predicting that 538 doesn’t go 50/50 this year. That’s about as bold a prediction as I’m willing to make!

I drilled into the NY Times prediction methodology (the one that makes me feel warmer and fuzzier), and they use a half-dozen different prediction sites, including Wang’s PEC, and Nate’s 538.

538 is the outlier. The others all have Clinton’s chances at north of 90%.

For what that’s worth.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4633 "2016-11-04T17:03:25Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> According to [this site](http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/states/united-states/texas) their state insect is a monarch butterfly.
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> And is just me, or does having that many symbols just seem silly? One plant, one animal, and that’s enough. Actually, even that’s not necessary.

What’s the state mollusk?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4634 "2016-11-04T17:08:12Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> If _Ranger Rick_ taught me right, those taste horrible and other butterflies mimic them to prevent being eaten.

I haven’t found a single insect that tastes _good_.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4635 "2016-11-04T17:22:45Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> What’s the state mollusk?

Rick Perry.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4636 "2016-11-04T17:23:30Z")

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> [@running coach](#):
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> I haven’t found a single insect that tastes _good._

Paging **Mangetout**! Paging **Mangetout**!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4637 "2016-11-04T17:33:09Z")

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Hell, i’ll eat a bug, and a horned toad! And a road-kill armadillo casserole! Nummer-nums!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4638 "2016-11-04T17:37:53Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> According to [this site](http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/states/united-states/texas) their state insect is a monarch butterfly.
> 
> And is just me, or does having that many symbols just seem silly? One plant, one animal, and that’s enough. Actually, even that’s not necessary.

Off the top of my head, I can think of California’s state bird (valley quail), flower (golden poppy), marine mammal (grey whale) and fossil (saber-toothed tiger).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4639 "2016-11-04T17:45:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I haven’t found a single insect that tastes _good_.

Juju bees.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4640 "2016-11-04T17:46:33Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I haven’t found a single insect that tastes _good_.

You’ve tried them all?

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4641 "2016-11-04T17:46:40Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Paging **Mangetout**! Paging **Mangetout**!

**Mangetout** got irked at me once for implying that he’d eat anything just becasue of his user name. But I was implying it admiringly. I can tell you that newly emerged cicadas taste vaguely of asparagus and can be quite nice. Unfortunately, I’ve since read that their body concentrates the toxins they absorb during their long underground sojourn, so eating them may not be wise. But they do taste good.

Crickets are similar, but they’re more chitinous.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4642 "2016-11-04T17:49:29Z")

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Hell, Ohio even has a state drink (tomato juice) and a state fossil (trilobite).

> [@gaffa](#):
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> A policeman’s job is only easy in a police state. - Mike Vargas _A Touch of Evil_

“A police state is one that is run by criminals.” - Robert Harris

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4643 "2016-11-04T18:06:46Z")

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Anyway it goes, we have the truth that somewhere around half of American voters don’t have the good sense God gave a goose. Lood sing goddam! Fear and loathing in America.

Yeah, yeah, I know, “Thank you, Mr. Sunshine!” Screw you guys, I’m going home! Shit, I _am_ home!

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4644 "2016-11-04T18:10:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I haven’t found a single insect that tastes _good_.

What about all that “free range black lobster” I’ve heard so much about?

Sure, they sting a little (less than east coast bugs, thats for sure), but if you wear gloves, cut the stingers off with pliers, drop them in a sack & then later dump 50-60 in some boiling water…  
(15 Full Minutes or half the time your neighbors wife takes to describe her day’s drama)  
…to serve with fresh drawn butter… well, just how bad can they be…?

The rest you can just serve over linguine with a cayenne pepper red sauce.

You can tell them its ‘Organic’…  
Which it is… 😉

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