# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4685 "2016-11-05T02:25:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Another [amusing story](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/us/a-militia-gets-battle-ready-for-a-gun-grabbing-clinton-presidency.html?_r=0) about the shit for brains crowd.

Wow, I thought that was just an expression, but it is my considered medical opinion that those people have shit for brains.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4686 "2016-11-05T03:49:47Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Arbeit macht frei.

Gee, thanks. Although, yanno, within a ‘normal’ capitalistic system, work really does result in the improvement of one’s circumstances. Material/financial circumstances in any case, which, if those circumstances become spectacularly extravagant (which probably requires a lifetime of work from somebody, somewhere), can overcome defects of status and/or character. All you need is dough!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4687 "2016-11-05T03:54:07Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> I think the line of thinking is: We’re the Great White Christians, and this is Our Country. All you people who disagree with us (and think you can make heads or tails of the unintelligible gibberish in the 1st Amendment, something about “Congress shall make no law…”, I really can’t follow it beyond that) are hereby labeled _Liberals_, and formally Disfellowshipped from Real America. Therefore, y’all don’t count. You’re out!
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> So- zip it until y’all come around! :mad:

No, they understand the First Amendment just fine:

Congress shall make no law establishing religion means no Sharia law, or Satanist displays on the public land in front of City Hall. If you can’t be normal, and worship Jesus Christ like the rest of us, get out.

Congress shall make no law interfering with the free exercise of religion means we can _make_ you worship Jesus because that’s how we freely exercise religion. Prayer in school is mandatory, and anyone who doesn’t pray to the flag of Our Christian Nation is expelled at the very least. Also, Darwinism is gone, because seven days _means_ seven days.

Congress shall make no law interfering with the freedom of speech means you P.C. liberals can shut up when we say all those words we’re certain you banned at some point in the 1990s, because that’s when all them comedians started making “Political Correctness” jokes. We can’t point to the laws which actually banned those words, but we’re sure they exist. We’d still be able to tell those jokes otherwise.

It also means you can’t make us uncomfortable with your lifestyle choices or heresies or anything else. We’re not P.C., we just know right from wrong, and we will not tolerate wrong things being said. We’re not offended, though.

Similarly, the right to peacefully assemble applies to normal people doing normal things, as anything else is an assault on Our Christian Nation. We’re still not offended. You can’t offend us. You can make us righteously angry, which is totally not the same feeling.

The right to petition government for redress of grievances… hey, look, the Second Amendment came early this year!

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4688 "2016-11-05T04:06:38Z")

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Ok this election has gone from Bizarre to Surreal to beyond WTF… Trump supporters are now claiming that Clinton and democrats are Satanists, based on the leaked emails showing that Podesta’s brother might have gone to a dinner with a performance artist who uses “bodily fluids” in her art.

Yep, based on an invitation to her campaign managers brother, and anyway this performance artist is some kind of new age wiccan, who gives a crap?

Please let it be over soon.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4689 "2016-11-05T04:27:09Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Ok this election has gone from Bizarre to Surreal to beyond WTF… Trump supporters are now claiming that Clinton and democrats are Satanists, based on the leaked emails showing that Podesta’s brother might have gone to a dinner with a performance artist who uses “bodily fluids” in her art.
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> Yep, based on an invitation to her campaign managers brother, and anyway this performance artist is some kind of new age wiccan, who gives a crap?
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> Please let it be over soon.

Satanic or not, that’s sort of vile.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4690 "2016-11-05T05:09:47Z")

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[The Wall Street Journal is reporting](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/and-there-s-more--7) that, in August, the National Enquirer paid off a former Playboy centerfold to keep quiet about an affair she and Trump had while Melania was pregnant.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4691 "2016-11-05T05:52:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Satanic or not, that’s sort of vile.

Or do you mean…bile?  
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**Author:** ![irritant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@irritant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irritant)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4692 "2016-11-05T06:55:33Z")

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For real this time: [Melania worked illegally in the US.](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_MELANIA_TRUMP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-05-02-32-48)

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4693 "2016-11-05T07:17:12Z")

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> [@irritant](#):
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> For real this time: [Melania worked illegally in the US.](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_MELANIA_TRUMP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-05-02-32-48)

Yeah - she worked illegally - I never expected otherwise

Yeah - confirms that Donald is huge hypocrite

Nah - It’s not going to make any difference whatsoever to the election

Yeah - Donald’s gonna spin it as a conspiracy and a lie

Nah - Hillary should simply ignore it, doing otherwise makes her look petty.

Honestly - much as I am anti-Trump and I giggle about this, I really don’t care about it that much, even were he a “decent candidate” - stuff like this should make a minimal difference to any campaign at any time. Who amongst us doesn’t have some sort of skeleton in our closet - and frankly this is rather small potatoes.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4694 "2016-11-05T07:20:06Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Ok this election has gone from Bizarre to Surreal to beyond WTF… Trump supporters are now claiming that Clinton and democrats are Satanists, based on the leaked emails showing that Podesta’s brother might have gone to a dinner with a performance artist who uses “bodily fluids” in her art.
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> Yep, based on an invitation to her campaign managers brother, and anyway this performance artist is some kind of new age wiccan, who gives a crap?
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> Please let it be over soon.

The “performance artist” is Marina Abramović. She’s one of the most famous performance artists in the world, has had a wildly popular retrospective in the MoMA and has worked with everyone from James Franco to Lady Gaga to Jay Z. Her San Francisco appearance next month sold out almost immediately, much to my chagrin as I tried to get tickets.

But yeah, sure, she’s the bodily fluids woman.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4695 "2016-11-05T07:25:26Z")

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After careful reading of her Wiki, and a period of reflection no less than a full minute, I conclude that this woman is as crazy as a duck on acid.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4696 "2016-11-05T07:34:31Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Wow, I thought that was just an expression, but it is my considered medical opinion that those people have shit for brains.

From the article: “Mrs. Bueter said Syrian refugees entering the country ‘scare the crap out of me.’”

You’re scared of women and orphans who have already been terrorized by armed thugs doing things hundred times worse than anything you’ve ever suffered (or could mete out)?

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4697 "2016-11-05T10:09:25Z")

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I’m planning to pay off part of my mortgage by my dad selling some of his shares. Turns out, currently the shares are worth less then just Six months ago. The reason? The stockmarket, even the Dutch stock market ,is anxious about a Trump win. If I had to sell now ( which, fortunately, I don’t ) that bastard would have lost me several thousand dollars.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4698 "2016-11-05T12:43:34Z")

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I wonder how many Trumpists are invested in stocks. I know some who are not at all into stocks and think that it’s all a complete sham and instead buy gold and real estate. Neo-Jacksonians, I guess.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4699 "2016-11-05T13:33:24Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> From the article: “Mrs. Bueter said Syrian refugees entering the country ‘scare the crap out of me.’”
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> You’re scared of women and orphans who have already been terrorized by armed thugs doing things hundred times worse than anything you’ve ever suffered (or could mete out)?

They’re convinced that its only men coming over, and not nice men.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4700 "2016-11-05T13:48:29Z")

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We’re only allowing in women and orphans? There should be a forum rule about repeating obviously inaccurate talking points verbatim from politicians.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4701 "2016-11-05T14:00:20Z")

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The Atlantic: “Why Trump Supporters Think He’ll Win” — [Why Donald Trump's Supporters Think He'll Win - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/backing-donald-trump/493619/)

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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4702 "2016-11-05T14:09:33Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> I’m planning to pay off part of my mortgage by my dad selling some of his shares. Turns out, currently the shares are worth less then just Six months ago. The reason? The stockmarket, even the Dutch stock market ,is anxious about a Trump win. If I had to sell now ( which, fortunately, I don’t ) that bastard would have lost me several thousand dollars.

Sell into the Clinton relief rally. The next debt ceiling fight is coming in March.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4703 "2016-11-05T14:24:16Z")

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I’ve been obsessively watching CNN, and I haven’t been able to sleep well in weeks. I am terrified that Trump may actually pull this off. I can’t seem to talk sense into any Trump supporter I know. I’m so frustrated.  
For me, this is like after 9/11 when almost all I did was watch the news for months, and I became deeply depressed. After this is over I’m not watching ANY news channels for a very long time.

Can anyone tell me something to make me feel better? Anything.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4704 "2016-11-05T14:46:49Z")

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Trump is buffoonery personified. With no small helping of nasty badness. I sure voted the other way.

If he’s elected then in 4 years we’ll vote him back out. Yes, some bad stuff will happen along the way. Stuff that would have been avoided if he wasn’t elected.

Get back some of your perspective. How did the US really fare after 9/11? How much did you getting your undies in a bundle and your brain in a blendor really help?

It’ll take one hell of a lot more than a mere Trump to seriously damage this country.

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