# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 241
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4805 "2016-11-06T05:38:22Z")
Checked my news sites before I got here. It is as reported above, the guy was just a guy with a sign that Trump did not like. > [@](#): > > …“Oh, we have one of those guys from the Hillary Clinton campaign,” he said peering down in front of him, shielding his eyes from the bright lights. > “How much are you being paid, $1,500? All right, take him out.”… (Sources agree that his instruction to “take him out” was simply a manner of saying to remove him from the premises. There is wide agreement that the Secret Service is not under the direct tactical command of a Presidential nominee.) Just some guy, doesn’t like Trump. Anyway… > [@](#): > > At his next event in Denver, a man introducing Trump claimed that there was “an attempt of murder” against Trump in Nevada. Brave, brave, brave Sir Donald. (Quotes taken from _ThinkProgress_, videos and tweets at same source.) [https://thinkprogress.org/trump-signholder-assassination-attempt-survival-story-ff9afac59ea5#.n9x0a8b56](https://thinkprogress.org/trump-signholder-assassination-attempt-survival-story-ff9afac59ea5#.n9x0a8b56) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4806 "2016-11-06T05:51:57Z")
[New Zealand](https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas)’s looking pretty good right about now. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4807 "2016-11-06T05:56:44Z")
> [@](#): > > At his next event in Denver, a man introducing Trump claimed that there was “an attempt of murder” against Trump in Nevada. This really does sum up the state of the campaigns doesn’t it: Obama is campaigning for Clinton, when a protester starts shouting. Obama tells the crowd to chill, tells them the man should be respected because of his age, and that he looks like he might be a veteran. Trump then spins this as “Obama shouted at the protester like a crazy man” At a Trump rally an unarmed protester holds up a sign, is beaten up and hauled out by secret service because one of his assaulters yells “gun!” Trump campaign spins this as “Someone tried to murder Trump” They do not live in a reality based world. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4808 "2016-11-06T06:08:32Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > [New Zealand](https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas)’s looking pretty good right about now. Well, yeah, but all the Hobbit movies are made now, and their only sources of export income is the sale of insanely aggressive and/or venomous marsupials and spiders. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4809 "2016-11-06T06:10:01Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > [New Zealand](https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas)’s looking pretty good right about now. Come and visit - we’ll teach you how to shag sheep, eat BBQ snags and drink beer 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4810 "2016-11-06T06:13:05Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Why not? What’s he afraid of? 😃 His opponent’s supporters. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4811 "2016-11-06T06:18:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Come and visit - we’ll teach you how to shag sheep, eat BBQ snags and drink beer You guys sure you’re not from Texas? You sound like the Island of the Aggies. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4812 "2016-11-06T06:22:01Z")
As I said in another thread, those of you who are anti-Trump and stressed out might want to consider taking a page from Fox News conservatives and embrace the information bubble for a while. Read liberal/Clinton supporting blogs only. They’re more likely to have positive headlines and analyses, and that may tide you over until Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4813 "2016-11-06T06:31:23Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > In the 8th year of the first Black President, we should all take a moment and appreciate _just how amazingly good at their job_ the US Secret Service truly is. > > I think it is fair to assume that nearly everyone who hates President Obama has a gun, and the Secret Service has prevented all those people from accomplishing their most fervent wish. > > Seriously, these men and women have proven themselves to be incredibly competent, and are a living rebuke to all those who disrespect agencies of the federal government. > > . This is one of those interesting statistics - things that mathematically ought to be much more common but aren’t. There are a large number of people who would no doubt like to kill the POTUS, yet nobody has even ever \*fired a shot \*at Obama - or at George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, or Bush Sr. You have to go all the way back to Hinckley’s attempt to kill Reagan to find an instance of someone firing a gun at the POTUS. Amazing. 30+ years, four presidents since, thousands of people who probably want to kill the POTUS, lots of access to guns, and yet nobody’s even _fired a shot._ ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4814 "2016-11-06T06:51:46Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > This is one of those interesting statistics - things that mathematically ought to be much more common but aren’t. There are a large number of people who would no doubt like to kill the POTUS, yet nobody has even ever \*fired a shot \*at Obama - or at George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, or Bush Sr. You have to go all the way back to Hinckley’s attempt to kill Reagan to find an instance of someone firing a gun at the POTUS. > > Amazing. 30+ years, four presidents since, thousands of people who probably want to kill the POTUS, lots of access to guns, and yet nobody’s even _fired a shot._ It is amazing. Nothing for 30+ years. Consider the 20 years from Reagan’s shooting, there were five incidents of shootings at POTUSes and POTUS candidates. 1981-03-30: Reagan, in Washington DC, shot by John Hinckley. 1975-09-22: Ford, in San Francisco, fired at by Sara Jane Moore. 1975-09-05: Ford, in Sacramento, fired at by Lynnette Fromme. 1972-05-15: George Wallace, in Laurel MD, shot by Arthur Bremer. Wallace paralyzed. Bremer had made attempts to assassinate Nixon, including bringing a gun to a Nixon speech in Ottawa ON. 1963-11-22: Kennedy, in Dallas, shot and assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4815 "2016-11-06T06:57:15Z")
Trump’s idiot supporters are now accusing Hillary of not being tough enough to be president because… because she cut short a Florida rally due to heavy rain! Trump, however, – the guy so insecure and hypersensitive that he sues everyone who ever dares criticize him – continues to prove how tough he is: “Trump is back on stage minutes after assassination attempt”. [This is according to the hallucinatory alternate reality embraced by the son Donald Trump Jr.](Trump is back on stage minutes after assassination attempt), affectionately known as Douchebag von Fuckface. The “assassination attempt” turned out to be a guy with a protest sign, who was naturally attacked and roughed up by Trump’s illustrious supporters, as they always do, and who accused him of having a gun. Which he did not have. He was interviewed and released without charges, since it turns out that it’s not illegal to have a protest sign. But such is the reality in Trumpland that Trump is now being touted as having heroically survived an assassination attempt. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4816 "2016-11-06T07:01:30Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Amazing. 30+ years, four presidents since, thousands of people who probably want to kill the POTUS, lots of access to guns, and yet nobody’s even _fired a shot._ I’ve noticed this, too. In the span of 18 years, a president was assassinated (JFK), another was shot and came fairly close to dying (Reagan), and another president survived two assassination attempts over a few weeks (Ford). Plus, during that timeframe, another likely presidential nominee was assassinated (RFK), as were two prominent black civil rights activists (MLK, Malcolm X), and another presidential candidate was paralyzed in an assassination attempt (George Wallace). And, then, as you note, not even a single shooting attempt at a president since. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4817 "2016-11-06T07:09:27Z")
For the love of Og, please, PLEASE don’t vote for the Orange One. And this coming from an Aussie woman…our media is flooded by your election, and it’s scares the shit out of me. Please vote…please PLEASE vote, and don’t let complacency get a look-in. Fnark, scary times for the whole world…☹ ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4818 "2016-11-06T07:27:47Z")
This might be a topic for its own thread, but I have to wonder dreamily how Elizabeth Warren would be doing right now if she were the Democratic nominee. I bet she’d be up by 30 pts. Electoral landslide. Clear majority in the Senate, and possibly taking back the House. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4819 "2016-11-06T07:36:36Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Trump was just rushed off stage due to some sort of disturbance in the audience. > > He’s back now. It was interesting to see big tough orange guy momentarily scared of something and running away. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4820 "2016-11-06T07:42:56Z")
Nate Silver rages at Huffington Post editor in 14-part tweetstorm: [Nate Silver rages at Huffington Post editor in 14-part tweetstorm - POLITICO](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/nate-silver-huffington-post-polls-twitter-230815) Nate (538) is adjusting the Florida polls for a Trump win. HuffPo calls bullshit. Nate fires back on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4821 "2016-11-06T08:29:12Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Really? They’re not gonna let you bring in guns to a rally surrounding a candidate for the POTUS. You seem to be forgetting that, according to the NRA, “gun-free zones” endanger the lives of patriotic Americans by depriving them of their right to defend themselves, and besides bad guys don’t pay attention to signs and the only thing that stops them is a good guy with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4822 "2016-11-06T09:14:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You seem to be forgetting that, according to the NRA, “gun-free zones” endanger the lives of patriotic Americans by depriving them of their right to defend themselves, and besides bad guys don’t pay attention to signs and the only thing that stops them is a good guy with a gun. Lots of good guys with guns charged with the job of protecting both candidates. And the ones on Trump detail are probably thinking “I have to jump in front of a bullet for this yutz?” ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4823 "2016-11-06T09:19:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You seem to be forgetting that, according to the NRA, “gun-free zones” endanger the lives of patriotic Americans by depriving them of their right to defend themselves, and besides bad guys don’t pay attention to signs and the only thing that stops them is a good guy with a gun. Lots of good guys with guns charged with the job of protecting both candidates. And the ones on Trump detail are probably thinking “I have to jump in front of a bullet for this yutz?” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4824 "2016-11-06T09:33:25Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Lots of good guys with guns charged with the job of protecting both candidates. Yeah. _Government_ good guys, paid with _your_ tax dollars, instead of letting the free market provide the solution! It’s practically socialism, it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=240) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=242)