# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4885 "2016-11-06T20:58:17Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I’m watching MSNBC and they are reporting breaking news that FBI Director Comey has sent a letter today to Chaffetz saying after review of the new emails they have found nothing to change the decision they made in July.

He should send another letter to Congress which says, “Please ignore my previous letter. I am a dickhead.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4886 "2016-11-06T21:00:22Z")

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There is a great chuckle in the Force.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4887 "2016-11-06T21:01:43Z")

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And this too will stir the Trumpist CTers into a frenzy. Aided and abetted by Trump and his media stooges. The narrative will be “Of course Obama quashed the whole thing to rescue criminal Clinton’s campaign. How could it be otherwise?”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4888 "2016-11-06T21:06:42Z")

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[BREAKING: GOP judges lift court order prohibiting Trump campaign from intimidating voters](https://thinkprogress.org/breaking-gop-judges-lift-court-order-prohibiting-trump-campaign-from-intimidating-voters-9b96c5a85a50)

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> On Friday, a federal judge in Ohio handed down an order prohibiting the Trump campaign and two of its allies “from conspiring to intimidate, threaten, harass, or coerce voters on Election Day.” That order was effectively blocked on Sunday by a decision handed down by an especially conservative panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.
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> The Sixth Circuit panel did not explain its reasoning in its Sunday order staying the ban on voter intimidation by the Trump campaign.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4889 "2016-11-06T21:16:20Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> He should send another letter to Congress which says, “Please ignore my previous letter. I am a dickhead.”

There’s another kind of letter he \*really \*needs to send now.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4890 "2016-11-06T21:20:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [BREAKING: GOP judges lift court order prohibiting Trump campaign from intimidating voters](https://thinkprogress.org/breaking-gop-judges-lift-court-order-prohibiting-trump-campaign-from-intimidating-voters-9b96c5a85a50)

What part of freedom of speech and of assembly don’t you believe in, you Commie?

That’s pretty much the Sixth Circuit’s thought process I bet.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4891 "2016-11-06T21:23:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> There’s another kind of letter he \*really \*needs to send now.

Suicide notes are not letters.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4892 "2016-11-06T21:28:38Z")

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Right about now Trump is trying to wrestle his phone out of his aides hands. They are trying to keep him on message but the need to tweet may be irresistible. I expect him to meltdown in his next speech.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4893 "2016-11-06T21:30:55Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Right about now Trump is trying to wrestle his phone out of his aides hands. They are trying to keep him on message but the need to tweet may be irresistible. I expect him to meltdown in his next speech.

He’s putting on some sunglasses and a fake mustache and sneaking off to Best Buy to buy a burner phone as we speak.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4894 "2016-11-06T21:35:30Z")

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Astonishing that Betfair has moved from Trump 22% to Trump 15% on the “email probe” over. The odds move faltered at first, but has now resumed on decent volume.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4895 "2016-11-06T21:36:56Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, yeah, but all the Hobbit movies are made now, and their only sources of export income is the sale of insanely aggressive and/or venomous marsupials and spiders.

Australia has the killer wildlife (& Pauline Hanson). New Zealand has same-sex marriage, plentiful rainfall, and Nude Blacks rugby. In any event I’m starting to feel better about the election, but I did stock up at the state store just in case.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4896 "2016-11-06T21:36:57Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Astonishing that Betfair has moved from Trump 22% to Trump 15% on the “email probe” over. The odds move faltered at first, but has now resumed on decent volume.

Apparently, this was the break the Clinton campaign’s been waiting for!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4897 "2016-11-06T21:45:24Z")

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Why? Who does this convince who wasn’t already convinced? He could tell his thralls that Comey is a Hillary plant, that it was zombies, black magic performed by Maoist lesbians, they’ll buy it. Hillary voters already didn’t buy the shit, so no change there. Only effect I can see is the few people who were terminally indecisive and nudged over the line by Comey’s infernal emission but do they vote early?

So, what? Lets say some Trump goons have a moment of clarity, and say to themselves “Well, shit, my team cheats! So, fuck 'em!” And lets say they both vote for Hillary, or stay home…

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**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4898 "2016-11-06T21:46:42Z")

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I’m surprised the betting markets moved so dramatically. Is this obviously a good development for Clinton? My intuition is “obviously, yes” but an argument can be made the other way. Namely, the candidate mostly in the news cycle is at the disadvantage this election, and this just puts the email issue into the minds of voters again.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4899 "2016-11-06T21:48:36Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Why? Who does this convince who wasn’t already convinced? He could tell his thralls that Comey is a Hillary plant, that it was zombies, black magic performed by Maoist lesbians, they’ll buy it. Hillary voters already didn’t buy the shit, so no change there. Only effect I can see is the few people who were terminally indecisive and nudged over the line by Comey’s infernal emission but do they vote early?
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> So, what? Lets say some Trump goons have a moment of clarity, and say to themselves “Well, shit, my team cheats! So, fuck 'em!” And lets say they both vote for Hillary, or stay home…

For the record, I don’t really think this is the break the Clinton campaign’s been waiting for. I think that happened when Trump won the primaries.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4900 "2016-11-06T21:48:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Suicide notes are not letters.

They are when they start off “To whom it may concern…”.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4901 "2016-11-06T22:01:38Z")

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Bizarrely, I’m watching CNN and getting an ad for Fox News, paid for apparently by a local corporation (this is in New Mexico). It’s quite funny - are CNN basically saying that the deplorables who watch Fox News are a fixed subset of the population, no ad will do anything to increase or decrease the number of people who choose Fox over CNN, so we’ll just take their money?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4902 "2016-11-06T22:13:00Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> … The “assassination attempt” turned out to be a guy with a protest sign, who was naturally attacked and roughed up by Trump’s illustrious supporters, as they always do, and who accused him of having a gun. Which he did not have. He was interviewed and released without charges, since it turns out that it’s not illegal to have a protest sign. But such is the reality in Trumpland that Trump is now being touted as having heroically survived an assassination attempt. :rolleyes:

Well, the guy DID have a paper sign. And we all know how dangerous a really bad paper cut can be.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4903 "2016-11-06T22:15:49Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Bizarrely, I’m watching CNN and getting an ad for Fox News, paid for apparently by a local corporation (this is in New Mexico). It’s quite funny - are CNN basically saying that the deplorables who watch Fox News are a fixed subset of the population, no ad will do anything to increase or decrease the number of people who choose Fox over CNN, so we’ll just take their money?

I could be mistaken but I believe it’s the cable operator (Direct TV etc.) that gets to place ads. (Though it does seem a fair question as to whether particular stations can prohibit particular ads from running during their airtime.)

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/4904 "2016-11-06T22:17:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, yeah, but all the Hobbit movies are made now, and their only sources of export income is the sale of insanely aggressive and/or venomous marsupials and spiders.

Don’t forget ‘The Silmarillion’.

Peter Jackson could whip it out in about 25-30 parts.

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