# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 253
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5045 "2016-11-08T07:46:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …Mitch McConnell …Is he still alive? Define “alive”. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5046 "2016-11-08T08:07:07Z")
[The Princeton Election Consortium’s final predictions:](http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/08/final-mode-projections-clinton-323-ev-51-di-senate-seats-gop-house/) Clinton 323 EV, 51 Democratic Senate seats, GOP House That was basically my “best reasonable outcome” prediction for this whole season. The House was never going to flip, but as long as the Democrats have the Senate and the White House, we can get good justices into the Supreme Court and maybe hear some gerrymandering and ballot access cases. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5047 "2016-11-08T08:36:14Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > [Wasn’t that Ann Coulter?](https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/795833821501460480) Exact quote: “If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were voting, Trump would win in a 50-state landslide.” I have 5 grandparents who were born here, so there!! Actually, I have only 2, but what’s up with “at least 4 grandparents”? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5048 "2016-11-08T09:03:05Z")
Superfluous grandparents aside; wouldn’t the vast majority of African Americans have 4 US born grandparents, as would a good number of latinos, and pretty much all native Americans? And don’t forget the female vote. And there are a good number of “all American” white males like myself voting for Clinton. I think Coulter may be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5049 "2016-11-08T10:21:56Z")
I’ll just leave this delicious cartoon here: [Tuesday Nov, 8 2016 - Kevin & Kell](http://www.kevinandkell.com/2016/kk1108.html) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5050 "2016-11-08T11:07:49Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Superfluous grandparents aside; wouldn’t the vast majority of African Americans have 4 US born grandparents, as would a good number of latinos, and pretty much all native Americans? And don’t forget the female vote. She specifically said “people”. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5051 "2016-11-08T11:09:43Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I’m feeling pretty good. I was just at the home of some clients - lifelong Kansas Republican millionaires, and THEY can’t stand Trump. I don’t think that “I know more than the Generals” comment endeared him to the husband, a retired Marine Colonel. To be fair, 88 retired generals and admirals allegedly signed a [letter endorsing Trump](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/retired-generals-admirals-endorse-trump-227755). If true, then Trump really does know more than some generals, and so does my dog. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5052 "2016-11-08T12:26:58Z")
For your morning amusement, from a Free Republic poster: > [@](#): > > You, CA, may be the shocker of the election: going red again. NY might, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5053 "2016-11-08T12:30:22Z")
That would certainly be the shocker of the election. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5054 "2016-11-08T12:35:48Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That would certainly be the shocker of the election. It’s a first! A freeper got something right! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5055 "2016-11-08T12:38:49Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That would certainly be the shocker of the election. In the “two in the pink, one in the stink” sense, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5056 "2016-11-08T12:42:58Z")
Well, there goes my joke about Clinton winning the lean-Trump states of Arizona and Iowa. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5057 "2016-11-08T12:50:48Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I hear you. All the facts say that Clinton is going to win, but I won’t be able to relax until it’s a done deal. > > But her winning will just be the first step. We still have to deal with the fact that a large segment of our population believes that someone like Trump is even a remotely appropriate choice for President. Those people will continue to elect legislators who seem to have only one intent: gum up the workings of government and thwart the will of the people, even if it means not solving some critical problems. > > We won’t be out of the woods. Our government will still be in a very precarious situation that’s a threat to the people, the country, and the planet. You’re Not Wrong… ☹ Still, just for today, let’s take what laurels we’ve earned and celebrate even this much progress. The ultimate goal of educating and employing the people is a big one and inspirational to look at on occasion, but we cannot let it discourage us with its distance. Today will be a Good day and sometimes Happiness CAN be as simple as sending. Donald Trump home as a loser. … with a Vaseline-Headed son under each arm… ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5058 "2016-11-08T12:59:37Z")
> [@](#): > > The latest nonsense coming out of Kellyanne Conway’s mouth is “If only people all of whose grandparents were born in the United States were allowed to vote, Trump would win all 50 states.” Does she not know that would preclude Trump and all of his kids? Seriously, does that not immediately make absolutely everyone who reads it think of the Grandfather Clauses southern states had post-Civil War to keep blacks from voting? I know, she said “born” and not “eligible to vote” but, since we’re talking voting, it was the absolute first thought that crossed my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5059 "2016-11-08T13:07:27Z")
Im seeing it attributed to Ann Coulter — [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5060 "2016-11-08T13:13:38Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > Seriously, does that not immediately make absolutely everyone who reads it think of the Grandfather Clauses southern states had post-Civil War to keep blacks from voting? I know, she said “born” and not “eligible to vote” but, since we’re talking voting, it was the absolute first thought that crossed my mind. It does. Because it’s supposed to. It and its follow-on techniques worked for about a hundred years. They know they can buy another hundred years if they can do something similar again. Hope springs eternal with them. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5061 "2016-11-08T13:14:34Z")
[XKCD just endorsed Clinton.](http://xkcd.com/1756/) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5062 "2016-11-08T13:24:04Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Im seeing it attributed to Ann Coulter — [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born) Hahaha what a stupid bitch. She’d fit right in with the Confederate crowd…except she’d probably even be too nucking futs for them too, except for the Dukes crowd. An hour and a half till I go to cast my vote…(I know, real suspense here)…for Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5063 "2016-11-08T13:36:39Z")
I’m in suburban Philly in a very integrated neighborhood. This immediate area always goes Democratic. My polling place is in a school immediately across the street from me. There are no classes today so any cars in the school lot are most likely voters (along with a few poll workers and the usual small number of people handing out leaflets, selling cookies, etc.) The lot is parked full so it looks like a good turnout. The actual entry to the polling place is not in my line of sight from here but I see no sign of any troublemakers, armed or not. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5064 "2016-11-08T13:49:54Z")
Someone posted a video on FB from a local polling place here that shows a woman taking down Democratic signs and putting up Republican ones. The poster identifies the woman as the local GOP chair but it’s hard to tell from the video if that’s an accurate identification. ETA: The poster just confirmed for me that this happened at my polling place. I wasn’t sure from the angle. If I was up and dressed I’d run over and see if it’s still happening. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=252) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=254)