# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5085 "2016-11-08T16:26:23Z")

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> [@Corry\_El](#):
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> According to this poll …  
> [Majority of Americans Identify Themselves as Third Generation Americans](http://www.gallup.com/poll/4621/majority-americans-identify-themselves-third-generation-americans.aspx)

Excellent research. Thank you.

Which goes directly to the point that Coulter was speaking to the True Believers about their straw man fantasyland version of the US: The one of white original settlers being overwhelmed by brown recent arrivals or people of otherwise illegitimate provenance who’re of dubious loyalty and no worth as human beings.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5086 "2016-11-08T16:26:44Z")

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I’m a part-time instructor at a local university. I never talk about politics in my class (or really about much of anything outside the subject area), but last night I joked that I was glad my students had chosen to come to class on the last day before the end of the world. I made some crack about the Hunger Games starting soon. Anyway, after class one of my students asked me for help with something and mentioned that he would be voting today for the first time as an American citizen. Apparently this election season was pretty tame compared to what he was used to, having grown up in the Kurdish region of Iraq.

ETA: The guy was absolutely pumped about being eligible to vote. I congratulated him but didn’t ask who he supported.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5087 "2016-11-08T16:54:34Z")

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The Telegraph has a [cartoon](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/opinion/2016/11/08/ADAMS20161108-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg) which sums things up nicely.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5088 "2016-11-08T16:56:16Z")

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This election, strangely, feels \*\*\*less \*\*\*venomous than the 2012 election. 2012 was just old-fashioned hate, both sides hating each other (I mean, the two sides of voters, not their candidates) and the hatred was dialed up to 11. Like Alabama vs. Auburn.  
This election has been so weird that the hatred has been replaced by a collective “WTF” from both parties. It’s like an Alabama vs. Auburn game, but in the first quarter suddenly mafia gangs and zoo animals invade the football field and take over the stadium.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5089 "2016-11-08T16:57:14Z")

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Bayard, thanks for sharing that nice little story.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5090 "2016-11-08T16:57:30Z")

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“I’m very proud of my children and I’m just looking at them right now as an example you show. But I’m very proud because Don and Eric and Ivanka and you know, to a lesser extent because she just got out of school, out of college, but Tiffany has also been so terrific.”

Gonna be fun Thanksgiving at the Trump household.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5091 "2016-11-08T17:37:44Z")

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:smack:

You just _know_ Tiffany is voting for Hillary.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5092 "2016-11-08T18:17:36Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> :smack:
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> You just _know_ Tiffany is voting for Hillary.

He’s [not so sure Melania isn’t.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwwTeRxXUAInzbL.jpg:large)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5093 "2016-11-08T18:31:38Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Superfluous grandparents aside; wouldn’t the vast majority of African Americans have 4 US born grandparents, as would a good number of latinos, and pretty much all native Americans? And don’t forget the female vote. And there are a good number of “all American” white males like myself voting for Clinton.  
> I think Coulter may be wrong.

I was just thinking the other day that probably a larger % of blacks than whites in the US have ancestries that go back at least to the early 1800s. Think of the waves and waved of European immigrants in the lat 1800s and early 1900s.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5094 "2016-11-08T18:42:53Z")

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[Trump files first election lawsuit, in Nevada.](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/trump-campaign-files-nevada-lawsuit-claiming-people-were-improperly-allowed-to-vote.html)

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5095 "2016-11-08T18:51:33Z")

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That dastardly Clark County, following [state law](https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec305)!

> [@](#):
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> NRS 293.305  Closing of polls; admission of voters and other persons.
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> ```
> 1.  If at the hour of closing the polls there are any registered voters waiting to vote, the doors of the polling place must be closed after all such voters have been admitted to the polling place. Voting must continue until those voters have voted.
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> 2.  The deputy sheriff shall allow other persons to enter the polling place after the doors have been closed for the purpose of observing or any other legitimate purpose if there is room within the polling place and such admittance will not interfere unduly with the voting.
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> (Added to NRS by 1960, 256; A 1987, 341)
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> ```

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5096 "2016-11-08T19:47:24Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I’m wondering now if this woman wasn’t simply removing signs that were too close. I can’t identify from the video where it is in relation to the door. It does appear that she put up one sign when taking down the others, but it’s a short video and it’s a bit ambiguous so I can’t be sure. It does seem unlikely that a party chair would do something illegal so publicly (there are people walking past as she does it).

I voted a little while after posting about this. The fence where she was moving signs around had a number of signs including ones for both Trump and Clinton. So it may be that she was just moving the signs around to make room or something.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5097 "2016-11-08T20:18:12Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> And don’t forget his BFF Newt, who said the reason he had so many adulterous affairs was because of his dedication to his job.

Didn’t Newt divorce his wife while she was in the hospital being treated for cancer?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5098 "2016-11-08T20:21:21Z")

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[James O’Keefe is videoing himself intentionally intimidating voters.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/james-okeefe-films-himself-committing-voter-intimidation-by-stalking-a-church-van-bringing-people-to-polls/)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5099 "2016-11-08T20:23:18Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I was just thinking the other day that probably a larger % of blacks than whites in the US have ancestries that go back at least to the early 1800s. Think of the waves and waved of European immigrants in the lat 1800s and early 1900s.

I’m sure you are right. There has been very little immigration from Africa (outside of Obama and Trevor Noah) compared to other places.  
It gives me a bit of comfort to know that none of my ancestors were here until long after the Civil War.

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**Author:** ![Alpheidae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Alpheidae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpheidae)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5100 "2016-11-08T20:26:03Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump files first election lawsuit, in Nevada.](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/trump-campaign-files-nevada-lawsuit-claiming-people-were-improperly-allowed-to-vote.html)

And it’s already been [thrown out](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/8/1593482/-Trump-campaign-attempts-to-invalidate-Latino-votes-in-Nevada-is-denied).

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5101 "2016-11-08T20:28:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [James O’Keefe is videoing himself intentionally intimidating voters.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/james-okeefe-films-himself-committing-voter-intimidation-by-stalking-a-church-van-bringing-people-to-polls/)

Clever. Very clever. These idjits can’t even be good at being bad.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5102 "2016-11-08T20:35:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [James O’Keefe is videoing himself intentionally intimidating voters.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/james-okeefe-films-himself-committing-voter-intimidation-by-stalking-a-church-van-bringing-people-to-polls/)

The man is such a clown. Busing people to the polls is not illegal, but stalking and photographing people while they’re trying to vote may be. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-guide-to-voter-intimidation-and-how-to-report-it/2016/11/07/bf44ee2a-a51e-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-guide-to-voter-intimidation-and-how-to-report-it/2016/11/07/bf44ee2a-a51e-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1_story.html)

Unfortunately, based on what’s happened in the past, he’ll probably end up with just a slap on the wrist. He needs some kind of punishment that will deter him from his repeated breaking of the law.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5103 "2016-11-08T20:43:54Z")

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> [@Alpheidae](#):
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> And it’s already been [thrown out](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/8/1593482/-Trump-campaign-attempts-to-invalidate-Latino-votes-in-Nevada-is-denied).

That judge was having none of it. She knows what will happen to those poll workers if she gives their names to the Trump campaign.

Video: [x.com](https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/796076676480434176/video/1)

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5104 "2016-11-08T20:47:48Z")

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Poor Tiffany.

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