# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 256
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5105 "2016-11-08T20:49:29Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > That judge was having none of it. She knows what will happen to those poll workers if she gives their names to the Trump campaign. > > Video: [x.com](https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/796076676480434176/video/1) [The Best People.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-best-people) > [@](#): > > The Judge who held a hearing this morning about Trump’s Nevada lawsuit did not seem very impressed. **And it turns out that the lawyers who brought the suit on Trump’s behalf are a construction and commercial insurance lawyer and construction and family law attorney.** In other words, not election lawyers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5106 "2016-11-08T20:50:04Z")
I have to be _very_ careful here at work. It’s a trucking firm, and their idea of a “News Program” is a radio show with Limbaugh or Lars Larson in it. Contrary opinions are definitely not welcome in this workplace. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5107 "2016-11-08T20:58:53Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Im seeing it attributed to Ann Coulter — [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/304867-coulter-trump-would-win-if-only-people-whose-grandparents-born) She really is a Death-Eater, isn’t she? Only purebloods must be in charge, right Ann? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5108 "2016-11-08T21:01:07Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Poor Tiffany. Tiffany, if you can read this, we understand: Narcissistic Parents Suck On Ice. All we can recommend is that you take step classes until your anger and frustration subsides… and then come Father’s Day… …Kick Him In The Balls Until Your Legs Feel Tired!!! (…you know you want to…) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5109 "2016-11-08T21:01:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I have to be _very_ careful here at work. It’s a trucking firm, and their idea of a “News Program” is a radio show with Limbaugh or Lars Larson in it. Contrary opinions are definitely not welcome in this workplace. That sucks. I’ve always had office jobs (mostly IT related) where the conservatives were usually in the minority, and different opinions were always respected regardless. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5110 "2016-11-08T21:08:49Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Poor Tiffany. And it looks like he completely forgot about Barron. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5111 "2016-11-08T21:15:59Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@davidm](#): > > > > That judge was having none of it. She knows what will happen to those poll workers if she gives their names to the Trump campaign. > > > > Video: [x.com](https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/796076676480434176/video/1) > > [The Best People.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-best-people) > > > [@](#): > > > > The Judge who held a hearing this morning about Trump’s Nevada lawsuit did not seem very impressed. And it turns out that the lawyers who brought the suit on Trump’s behalf are a construction and commercial insurance lawyer and construction and family law attorney. In other words, not election lawyers. > > 😃 > **[Incredulous Nevada judge slaps down Trump's 'voter fraud' suit: 'What are you...](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/incredulous-nevada-judge-slaps-down-trumps-voter-fraud-suit-what-are-you-asking-for/)** > > Donald Trump's presidential campaign sued the state of Nevada on Tuesday and alleged that hundreds of voters in Clark County were illegally allowed to vote after early voting hours had ended.Judge Gloria Sturman, who heard the campaign's case on... > [@](#): > > Judge Gloria Sturman, who heard the campaign’s case on Tuesday afternoon, sounded highly skeptical of the lawsuit — and often seemed incredulous at the Trump camp’s claims and requests. > > In particular, she couldn’t seem to believe that the Trump campaign was asking her to order Clark County officials to preserve early voting records from the date of November 4th 2016. Sturman answered this request by noting that officials are already obligated to preserve these records. > > “What are you asking for?” she asked a Trump attorney at one point. “I can’t obligate him to do something he’s already obligated to do — he’s already obligated to do it!” ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5112 "2016-11-08T21:49:32Z")
A Trump poll watcher was causing trouble in Philly. He arrived at the polling place at 7:20 and immediately raised a ruckus because he saw that there were already votes on the machines. The votes were there because some members of the election board who had arrived before him voted - after the legal opening time of 7:00. Then he blocked the door and wouldn’t let people in, and has claimed that he was threatened with a belt. > **[Trump Team Claims A Poll Watcher Was Threatened With A Belt In Philly. Here's...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-philadelphia-poll-watcher_n_58220634e4b0aac624875434)** > > The man was reportedly confrontational, argumentative and "interfering with the voters." > [@](#): > > PHILADELPHIA ― The man running the Donald Trump campaign’s election protection effort claimed Tuesday that a Trump poll watcher was “threatened with a belt” at a polling place in Northeast Philadelphia and that he feared an “attack was imminent.” He also claimed the same poll watcher found votes on the machines before the polls opened this morning. > > But the election judge at the Wissinoming Recreation Center says that’s not quite what happened, and a Republican committeeman agrees. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5113 "2016-11-08T22:26:20Z")
A fine poem for the occasion - “The Poor Voter on Election Day” by John Greenleaf Whittier: [The Poetry of John Greenleaf Whittier](http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2004/nov/poorvoter/poem.html) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5114 "2016-11-08T22:55:49Z")
Well, if the man needed a belt, someone should have given him one… ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5115 "2016-11-08T23:46:01Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > That sucks. I’ve always had office jobs (mostly IT related) where the conservatives were usually in the minority, and different opinions were always respected regardless. I’m in IT but for someone who does a lot of defense contracts and usually the mood is a mix between liberals and conservatives and a whole lot of “both sides do it”. This time around, I’m not hearing a peep from conservatives who have all seemed to transmorph temporarily into equal-pox-wishing people, who may secretly vote for trump or might not. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5116 "2016-11-08T23:48:15Z")
Active shooter near polling place in Azusa, California. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5117 "2016-11-08T23:51:54Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Active shooter near polling place in Azusa, California. [One dead and at least three wounded.](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-azusa-shooting-injuries-20161108-story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5118 "2016-11-09T00:01:21Z")
I just learned that Kentucky has [an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) No shit. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5119 "2016-11-09T00:36:17Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I just learned that Kentucky has [an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) No shit. I looked up the Wikipedia article’s source for that figure, and it came from [this article](http://www.highereducation.org/crosstalk/ct0102/news0102-kentucky.shtml), which was published in “National Crosstalk Fall 1999”, and it said at the time that the 40% adult illiteracy rate was falling, so I wonder what it is now. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5120 "2016-11-09T00:49:54Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > I looked up the Wikipedia article’s source for that figure, and it came from [this article](http://www.highereducation.org/crosstalk/ct0102/news0102-kentucky.shtml), which was published in “National Crosstalk Fall 1999”, and it said at the time that the 40% adult illiteracy rate was falling, so I wonder what it is now. Good point chorpler. I’m gonna cruize [this sit](http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/landing.jhtml?src=ft)e to see if I can dig up currents stats. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5121 "2016-11-09T01:09:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Active shooter near polling place in Azusa, California. That’s how it’s being reported: “near polling place”, but keep in mind that there are very few places that are not near a polling place. It may have no connection to the election. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5122 "2016-11-09T01:58:57Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I just learned that Kentucky has [an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) No shit. I can’t believe my local news (San Jose) is not reporting this AT ALL!!! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5123 "2016-11-09T02:03:27Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > I just learned that Kentucky has [an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) No shit. I call bullshit on that. And it does look like BS; [link.](http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/5124 "2016-11-09T02:23:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I call bullshit on that. And it does look like BS; [link.](http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx) Probably due to a different definition of “adult illiteracy rate”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=255) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=257)