# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/563 "2016-10-07T23:23:03Z")
Lewandowski goes on the defensive in the most ill thought out and hilarious way possible. > [@](#): > > Look, I think what this comes down to, and this is not a surprise, is clearly this is not how women should be spoken about,. But we’re not choosing a Sunday school teacher. > > And I want to be very clear about this, what we know about Donald Trump this was 12 years ago, this audio tape, and does not reflect or bring to mind the Donald Trump that I’ve spent 18 months with traveling. I’ve never heard anything like this out of him. > > And so, let me say, We’re appointing a leader, we’re electing a leader. We’re not electing a Sunday school teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/564 "2016-10-07T23:24:01Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m increasingly worried that this might happen. Not sure how the election shakes out from there. I don’t think Trump can back out. the election is a month away, and the ballots are printed. For another Republican to win, it would have to be a write in campaign. Trump could win and resign, but that’s looking less and less likely the more that comes out on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/565 "2016-10-07T23:24:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I think Melania is about to change him. Like Lorena Bobbitt, perhaps? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/566 "2016-10-07T23:27:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If he even hints about bringing up Bill Clinton’s indiscretions at the Town Meeting now, Hillary’s got him by his Rice Crispies. I think the reason this was released now was to goad Trump into bringing up Bill’s indiscretions. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/567 "2016-10-07T23:28:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I think Melania is about to change him. Melania is a Stepford wife. She will do nothing but smile and look pretty, or Trump will send her back to Slovenia so fast her head will spin. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/568 "2016-10-07T23:30:18Z")
Suddenly those accusations of Trump raping a 13-year-old don’t sound so farfetched, do they? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/569 "2016-10-07T23:34:42Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Is there a mechanism for Republicans to replace Trump with Pence and get on all the states’ ballots, or is it too late? At this point even if Trump dropped dead it’s too late to get his name off the ballots. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/570 "2016-10-07T23:35:13Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Is there a mechanism for Republicans to replace Trump with Pence and get on all the states’ ballots, or is it too late? > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m increasingly worried that this might happen. Not sure how the election shakes out from there. The [deadlines for parties to certify the names of their presidential candidates](https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates) and electors are long gone, the latest being in mid-September. Trump’s name will head the ballots in each state no matter what happens, even if he resigns. And there is no way the party can force him to do that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/571 "2016-10-07T23:35:34Z")
Statement from Reince Priebus read on CNN: > [@](#): > > "No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever.” Wow. That’s taking a stand. : Old rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/572 "2016-10-07T23:38:02Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Assange just ain’t doing the job Putin hired him to do. He better careful or someone is going to insert a plutonium enema. Maybe Assange believes that he’ll fire up the Bernie Bros with the latest dump but I think the hardest of hardcore Bernie or Busters already made up their minds. The better adjusted among them will either vote Clinton, or at worst go third party or not vote. I think the cake is getting kinda baked for both candidates now. An Assange dump that actually does have something juicy in it could lower Hillary’s favorability a bit but it’s most likely too late to help Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/573 "2016-10-07T23:39:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Statement from Reince Priebus read on CNN: > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > "No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever.” > > Wow. That’s taking a stand. : Old rolleyes: Did he add, “and that’s why I’m withdrawing my support for Mr. Trump?” Somehow I doubt it. Trump can be dismissed as a extreme buffoon and ass. But how do we explain those who support him knowing he’s a disaster? ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/574 "2016-10-07T23:42:51Z")
My thoughts: -Nobody should talk this way about women -Nevertheless, I am fairly sure that many men do talk this way when they are not in mixed company -I would bet Bill Clinton\* has\* said thing that are this bad or nearly this bad in private -President LBJ most definitely said things this bad or worse to reporters (although times were different then -However, Trump has defended his crude talk (on Howard Stern, for example) by saying it was all an image for publicity and this shows that he also thinks that way in private -I could almost forgive him this if he had made a sincere apology and if he wasn’t already married at this time -Billy Bush is also a pig -Trump supporters won’t care -Time for another “think of the chilluns/womenfolk” ad from the Clinton camp ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/575 "2016-10-07T23:45:27Z")
The next Clinton ad will just be this entire tape, subtitled (with p\*\*\*\* and the like for the vulgarities), followed by “I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message”. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/576 "2016-10-07T23:47:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The next Clinton ad will just be this entire tape, subtitled (with p\*\*\*\* and the like for the vulgarities), followed by “I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message”. With old white ladies watching a TV. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/577 "2016-10-07T23:49:16Z")
The most shocking part of that video is that Trump admits he failed at something. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/578 "2016-10-07T23:49:51Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > My thoughts: > > -Nevertheless, I am fairly sure that many men do talk this way when they are not in mixed company > -I would bet Bill Clinton\* has\* said thing that are this bad or nearly this bad in private I don’t think so. Certainly they don’t say they have successfully groped women. Most men wouldn’t do that, and if they did try, wouldn’t get away with it. > [@](#): > > -Trump supporters won’t care True. If he was a candidate with good experience, temperament, policies, and judgment, I would be disappointed with this behavior, but would still vote for him. Given who he is and what he pretends to want to do, I wouldn’t vote for him if a hot mic revealed him saying kind things about puppies and babies. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/579 "2016-10-07T23:51:24Z")
Remember that people’s votes are NOT for a candidate. They are for electors PLEDGED to a candidate. If there were a movement to have electors vote for, say, Peewee Herman instead of Donald Trump, then it is reasonable to think that Peewee has a chance. Some states have laws that purport to require electors to cast their vote for their pledged candidate, and punishing “faithless electors” who may cast the ballot that actually counts for someone else. I’m of the opinion that such laws are unconstitutional. But who knows, maybe this is the beginning of the end of the electoral college. By the way, isn’t everyone thinking, “Why didn’t the Republican primary invoked EXTREME VETTING to make sure something like this didn’t happen?” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/580 "2016-10-07T23:52:11Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > And the thing is I don’t think he was just verbally posturing. We may be hearing from women that he has indeed grabbed the genitalia of without being invited to do so. You mean like [Jill Harth](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview)? I predict her name is brought up by Clinton at the town hall. > [@](#): > > There was the initial leering in that first December meeting in Trump Tower, and the inappropriate questions after her relationship status. It continued the next night over dinner at the Plaza Hotel’s Oak Room, where at a dinner with beauty pageant contestants she alleges he groped her under the table… > > It culminated in January 1993, when Harth and Houraney were visiting his Florida mansion, Mar-a-Lago, to finalize and then celebrate the beauty pageant deal with a party… > > “He pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again,” Harth said, “and I had to physically say: ‘What are you doing? Stop it.’ It was a shocking thing to have him do this because he knew I was with George, he knew they were in the next room. And how could he be doing this when I’m there for business?” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/581 "2016-10-07T23:56:02Z")
Oh…poor, poor Paul Ryan. Do you think he’s still going to campaign with Trump in Wisconsin this weekend? The two of them could wander around the fairgrounds, grabbing pussies. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/582 "2016-10-07T23:59:12Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > -Nevertheless, I am fairly sure that many men do talk this way when they are not in mixed company I’m looking forward to ‘they’re a Presidential candidate you could share a _beer_ with!’ being replaced with ‘they’re a Presidential candidate you could brag about \*sexual assault \*with!’ [/sarcasm] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=30)