# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/41 "2016-09-30T18:47:17Z")
In an efficient, business like fashion. They have reduced their probable voters to a rock solid core of Trump fanatics. They will crawl on hands and knees over broken shards of glass to vote for Trump. So, why spend money on GOTV? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/42 "2016-09-30T18:53:10Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, he sure hasn’t spent the past 4 days practicing. 9 days to go to get prepared to go against a woman doing this since 1965. She’s been fighting ISIS her entire adult life. How is Trump supposed to have any chance against her? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/43 "2016-09-30T19:20:38Z")
[Trump defends wee-hour tweet spree: ‘At least you know I will be there, awake’](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-early-tweeting-response-228971) > [@](#): > > Trump’s response, posted Friday afternoon, tried to sell the idea that that his early morning tweets were not evidence of an unhinged candidate, as Axelrod and others have suggested, but instead proof of his readiness to occupy the White House. > > “For those few people knocking me for tweeting at three o’clock in the morning, at least you know I will be there, awake, to answer the call!” Trump wrote on Twitter. Yeah, or maybe people think he’s going to be waging petty Twitter feuds when he should be getting rest before a critical event, or while he should be listening to a briefing. For anyone who was still doubting, the muzzle is well and truly off. Better get the chloroform, Conway. Or don’t, it’s more fun that way. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/44 "2016-09-30T19:28:18Z")
Unlike Trump, Clinton doesn’t have the stamina to stay awake four years straight. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/45 "2016-09-30T19:30:38Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Better get the chloroform, Conway. Or don’t, it’s more fun that way. I predict Ms. Conway will be gone within the week, to spend time with family. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/46 "2016-09-30T19:37:12Z")
At this point, I don’t think it’s anymore a question of whether Clinton will win – she has probably now put this one out of reach. However, there still may be time for Trump to make this race closer than it should be. I worry about a close race almost as much as I worry of a Clinton loss. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/47 "2016-09-30T19:45:30Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Unlike Trump, Clinton doesn’t have the \*\*stamina \*\*to stay awake four years straight. Bolding mine. You misspelled “drug habit.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/48 "2016-09-30T19:49:45Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > [A Florida Trump adviser resigns](http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/09/trump-adviser-in-florida-resigns-105972). > > > [@](#): > > > > “It is clear the campaign is now going in a direction I am no longer comfortable with and I have decided to move on,” Healy Baumgardner, a longtime GOP operative, told Bloomberg. > > More, Trump, more! Don’t let us down! Ride the sewage pipe all the way to November! > > I mean, it’s disgraceful that this is the state of the 2016 US Presidential Election, but that ship sailed long ago. At this point, I just want Trump to hurt his chances as much as humanly possible. One embarrassing election, no matter how bad, is still worlds better than an actual Trump presidency would be. Baumgardner is well known in Florida politics as a man with exactly zero scruples. The political equivalent of the psychotic mob enforcer happy to crush testicles for the _capo_. That even he finds Trump beyond the pale is sobering; very sobering. Or else he was bought off by somebody else. There are plenty of wallets bigger than Trump’s. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/49 "2016-09-30T20:06:04Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > ‘At least you know I will be there, awake’ Coke’ll do that to ya. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/50 "2016-09-30T21:03:16Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > That even he finds Trump beyond the pale is sobering; very sobering. Or else he was bought off by somebody else. There are plenty of wallets bigger than Trump’s. He’s fleeing a sinking ship. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/51 "2016-09-30T21:12:18Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m predicting in the next debate, Hillary brings in a specific, named example of a small business person who The Donald stiffed. A personal story of a good person whose business was destroyed because Trump refused to pay what he owed. She did pretty much that in the first debate. Mentioning the architect who designed a clubhouse for one of Trump’s golf courses and that he was in the audience. The clubhouse was built as planned and is in use today. Trump of course stiffed him claiming “maybe I didn’t think he did a good job.” I didn’t see this brought up again much in post-debate commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/52 "2016-09-30T21:15:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I predict Ms. Conway will be gone within the week, to spend time with family. I’ve seen this prediction a few times. Any particular reason why or just the general trajectory of the campaign? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/53 "2016-09-30T21:46:48Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > He’s fleeing a sinking ship. If true that’s good. Trump has (had?) a plausible shot at winning FL. Doing so would really improve his odds of winning overall. Having the FL Trump organization collapse into non-existence (or bickering ineffectivity) can only be a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/54 "2016-09-30T21:49:40Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Baumgardner is well known in Florida politics as a man with exactly zero scruples. The political equivalent of the psychotic mob enforcer happy to crush testicles for the _capo_. > > That even he finds Trump beyond the pale is sobering; very sobering. Or else he was bought off by somebody else. There are plenty of wallets bigger than Trump’s. I think you may be thinking of someone else. Healy Baumgardner is a woman who has done a particularly crappy job representing Trump so far. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/55 "2016-09-30T21:50:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > …\ > I’m predicting in the next debate, Hillary brings in a specific, named example of a small business person who The Donald **stiffed**. A personal story of a good person whose business was destroyed because Trump refused to pay what he owed. > > \… My bold. I first read that as someone Donald had STUFFED. :eek: Wow. THAT might get some people’s attention. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/56 "2016-09-30T21:50:41Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I’ve seen this prediction a few times. Any particular reason why or just the general trajectory of the campaign? General trajectory and past performance. It’s time once again to clear the deck chairs on the sinking ship. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/57 "2016-09-30T21:52:46Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > She did pretty much that in the first debate. Mentioning the architect who designed a clubhouse for one of Trump’s golf courses and that he was in the audience. The clubhouse was built as planned and is in use today. Trump of course stiffed him claiming “maybe I didn’t think he did a good job.” > I didn’t see this brought up again much in post-debate commentary. Yes, but Trump didn’t have a specific name of a person. If Trump is given a name, then he’ll go after him personally. As you mention, Trump said “maybe I didn’t think he did a good job.” “Maybe”. Trump literally had no idea who she was talking about, because he has ripped off so many people. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/58 "2016-09-30T22:08:06Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Baumgardner is well known in Florida politics as a man with exactly zero scruples. This Baumgardner is a woman. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/59 "2016-09-30T22:15:08Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Ohio just turned pale blue in 538’s [Nowcast](http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#now). 76 to 24 overall. Holy crap; I check 538 twice a day (sad!) but I missed that. Hillary’s odds in the now-cast have risen 24 percentage points this week. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/60 "2016-09-30T22:17:50Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > She did pretty much that in the first debate. Mentioning the architect who designed a clubhouse for one of Trump’s golf courses and that he was in the audience. The clubhouse was built as planned and is in use today. Trump of course stiffed him claiming “maybe I didn’t think he did a good job.” > I didn’t see this brought up again much in post-debate commentary. It was buried behind Trump’s vendetta against Machado; “not paying taxes makes me smart”; and the Sniffles. There are only so many minutes in a day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=4)