# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 36
### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/703 "2016-10-08T03:43:12Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> I tuned into Fox News. O’Reilly downplayed it as “Shirley Temple stuff” compared to Bill Clinton. Megyn Kelly looked like a deer in the headlights, not knowing what to say about it.
And hammering Bill C. for what he did 18-20 years ago while saying that what Trump did 11 years ago should be excused.
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/704 "2016-10-08T03:44:16Z")
Does anyone else feel like putting up their Christmas decorations now? 🙂
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### Author:  [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/705 "2016-10-08T03:45:02Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> I tuned into Fox News. O’Reilly downplayed it as “Shirley Temple stuff” compared to Bill Clinton. Megyn Kelly looked like a deer in the headlights, not knowing what to say about it.
“Both sides do it!”
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/706 "2016-10-08T03:45:36Z")
> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Not when you’re a star. He explains it all. They let him grab them by the pussy. It’s consensual.
The hilarious part is, he also admits that he moved on one woman, moved on her very heavily, but couldn’t get there; tried to have sex with her, and failed.
I have that correct, right? Those weren’t, like, conversations a day apart; just one?
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### Author:  [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/707 "2016-10-08T03:46:21Z")
Imagine not knowing this was going to happen.
Then imagine being a major political party and not having the foresight or organizational checks to prevent this.
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### Author:  [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/708 "2016-10-08T03:50:03Z")
Make America Grope Again.
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/709 "2016-10-08T03:52:24Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> **Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) withdraws his endorsement of Donald Trump**:
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> As reported by Fox News:
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> [http://fox13now.com/2016/10/07/congressman-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-his-endorsement-of-donald-trump/](http://fox13now.com/2016/10/07/congressman-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-his-endorsement-of-donald-trump/)
So has Utah Governor Gary Herbert. Utah wasn’t loving on Trump to begin with and looks like they are the first actual office holders off the ship.
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### Author:  [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/710 "2016-10-08T03:52:35Z")
> [@Mithras](#):
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> I can’t imagine Trump dropping out but if Pence really is running to be president in 2020 he (Pence) should. And that would be interesting.
Yep, sure would be. I actually think Pence may leave the ticket. MSNBC is reporting Pence is apparently “beside himself” over this tape. I can’t see any way this works out well for him if he sticks around. And I can’t imagine he will get anyone other than Giuliani or Gingrich to take the Veep spot if that happens.
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> How CAN he walk into a debate only 48 hours after this H bomb drops?
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> How can he show his fucking face ANYWHERE?
Right? In the next 24 hours he is going to lose endorsements like crazy. Jason Chaffetz and Huntsman have already withdrawn theirs. Turtleman McConnell made it clear his support is in the balance. If he shows up he is going to get mauled. Repeatedly. And I doubt much of it will be done by Hillary.
I’m watching right now waiting for an expected video apology to be released by the Trump campaign. I can’t imagine Trump summoning genuine contrition but we will see.
And Billy Bush is a pig too who should be canned.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/711 "2016-10-08T03:53:12Z")
Scottie Nell Hughes is complaining that this is an attack by the Clinton campaign.
Brilliant deduction there. And a mighty fine whine.
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/712 "2016-10-08T03:54:53Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Right now MSNBC and CNN are waiting for a video statement from donald. Fox news is running an hour of Hurricane coverage (preempting an O’reilly rerun). This is as rich as cheesecake.
I can’t wait to see their Election Night coverage; if thought '08 & '12 were hilarious just wait.
> [@Bayard](#):
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> That’s really interesting. I was also wondering earlier why this would hit on a Friday. But here I am on a Friday night surfing social media and reading about this insanity… That does make sense.
Also Ivanka’s sequestered until sundown tomorrow, assuming she’s even wants to keep playing a role in her father’s campaign. I think she’s going to take some time to focus on family matters now.
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### Author:  [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/713 "2016-10-08T03:55:04Z")
> [@Bayard](#):
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> That’s really interesting. I was also wondering earlier why this would hit on a Friday. But here I am on a Friday night surfing social media and reading about this insanity… That does make sense.
Plus, it’s less than 48 hours until the debate. If you wanted to send the Trump campaign in a tailspin at a critical moment, this is perfect timing.
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### Author:  [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/714 "2016-10-08T03:55:35Z")
Did the “vote rigging” thing ever go anywhere, even with Trump’s base? I remember people discussing the implications if the idea did take root, but I’ve no idea if it did. If Trump’s polls continue to slide, will the idea die an (almost) complete death? Has it already - I haven’t heard it mentioned in the past couple weeks.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/715 "2016-10-08T03:55:36Z")
> [@Ravenman](#):
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> There is no constitutional crisis. Let’s say 270+ electors pledged to Trump are chosen by voters. They show up in their state capitals and vote for Mickey Mouse. They don’t need some kind of judicial permission to cast their vote, regardless of what may be the consequences of having cast a vote as a faithless elector.
If the electors are breaking criminal law, and if they’re planning together to do so, that’s conspiracy. If you’re suggesting that a conspiracy to subvert a US presidential election wouldn’t cause a constitutional crisis, I’m afraid we’ll agree to disagree :).
> [@](#):
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> The electoral college is undemocratic? Young sir, that comment almost made my monocle fall out!
More undemocratic than normal, then.
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### Author:  [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/716 "2016-10-08T03:55:36Z")
This is why early voting is bad. You have people voting with significantly different information than other people.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/717 "2016-10-08T03:57:34Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I can’t wait to see their Election Night coverage; if thought '08 & '12 were hilarious just wait.
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> Also Ivanka’s sequestered until sundown tomorrow, assuming she’s even wants to keep playing a role in her father’s campaign. **I think she’s going to take some time to focus on family matters now.**
Is castration allowed on the Sabbath?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/718 "2016-10-08T03:57:54Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> **Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) withdraws his endorsement of Donald Trump**:
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> As reported by Fox News:
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> [http://fox13now.com/2016/10/07/congressman-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-his-endorsement-of-donald-trump/](http://fox13now.com/2016/10/07/congressman-jason-chaffetz-withdraws-his-endorsement-of-donald-trump/)
Representative Mike Coffman (R-Colorado) is apparently calling on Trump to step down likewise. I mean, granted, he apparently never endorsed the guy in the first place, but _you_ tell a combat veteran from the USMC he’s not entitled to his opinion.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/719 "2016-10-08T03:58:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> Probably even better than tonight’s episode of SNL. 😉
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Perfect, **Smapti**! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
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### Author:  [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/720 "2016-10-08T03:58:44Z")
> [@drewder](#):
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> This is why early voting is bad. You have people voting with significantly different information than other people.
Good point. Up until now, Trump seemed like such a sweetie.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/721 "2016-10-08T04:00:55Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> … Jason Chaffetz and Huntsman have already withdrawn theirs. …
How _will_ this impact the Mormon vote?
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### Author:  [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/722 "2016-10-08T04:02:07Z")
It looks like a Representative has withdrawn [his endorsement](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rep-chaffetz-withdraws-his-endorsement-of-trump-229335).
> [@](#):
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> Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz has withdrawn his endorsement of Donald Trump following the publication of lewd and sexually aggressive comments the Republican nominee made 2005, in one of the most concrete signs so far that Trump’s support is crumbling.
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> “I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine,” Chaffetz told Utah’s Fox 13 News.
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> Republicans are racing to distance themselves from Trump, whose predatory comments have crossed a line that many can’t stomach. But Chaffetz is so far the first and only member of the House to withdraw his support.
It’s possible that this could lead to more, but it’s also possible that this could be limited to Mormon politicians, as Trump is not popular among those of the LDS faith.
There were fantasy talks of Clinton carrying Utah if enough voters when Libertarian, and which I thought would be absolutely crazy. In this race, though? Who knows.
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