# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 49
### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/963 "2016-10-08T17:56:09Z")
> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Trumps " apology" vid scared the shit out of me. The guy looked like he was seething with anger and indignation. Was I the only one who saw that?
Trump is tired. He looks like he’s not sleeping, he’s not thinking clearly. In other words, he’s right where we want him for this debate.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/964 "2016-10-08T18:00:56Z")
> [@Colibri](#):
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> McCain endorsed Trump and although he has criticized him so far has not withdrawn his support.
I think McCain’s been taken prisoner again.
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### Author:  [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/965 "2016-10-08T18:02:58Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> This one is floating around: “Imagine what Republicans would have said if Obama featured his 5 kids from 3 different women at his convention in 2008.”
[One of them born out of wedlock.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffany_Trump)
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/966 "2016-10-08T18:02:59Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> Journalism. [They said](http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/donald-trump-comments-women-access-hollywood-229331) they were motivated to start looking, just this week, by [the AP story](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2778a6ab72ea49558445337865289508/ap-how-trumps-apprentice-moved-capitalism-sexism) ab
Not completely unlike Gary Hart challenging the media to find something wrong with him.
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### Author:  [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/967 "2016-10-08T18:03:24Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> > [@Merneith](#):
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> > I can’t help wondering if this is going to cause a storm-surge of Bill Cosbian proportions, as women come forward saying, that they’re all victims of the Gropenfuhrer.
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> Hey, hey, HEY - that’s Arnold Schwarzenegger’s rightfully granted nickname. Trump can get his own :D.
Even the Gropenfuhrer has [had enough](https://www.facebook.com/arnold/photos/a.420623816759.215734.9269711759/10154472434176760/?type=3&theater).
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/968 "2016-10-08T18:04:12Z")
You thought the first debate broke viewership records? You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet.
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/969 "2016-10-08T18:06:41Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Trump is tired. He looks like he’s not sleeping, he’s not thinking clearly. In other words, he’s right where we want him for this debate.
Yeah, all of his debate prep time, such as it is, is occupied by the latest disaster. And the last part of the tape shows exactly how he is going to attack, and I’m sure Hillary is ready for him.
I’ve heard comments that it was a video because the Trumpers didn’t trust him to stay on message live, and the content was clearly negotiated, since attacking the Clintons in his apology speech is just stupid.
I predict that if he does as badly Sunday as we expect, the downticket Republicans will be streaming for the exits. Maybe we can lock them.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/970 "2016-10-08T18:10:22Z")
> [@Tangent](#):
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> Trump says there is zero chance that he’ll drop out of the race.
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> So I’d say there’s about a 70% chance he drops out of the race.
I remember when Paterno said the same. Then he started begging to finish the year. Then… gone.
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/971 "2016-10-08T18:13:32Z")
> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Even the Gropenfuhrer has [had enough](https://www.facebook.com/arnold/photos/a.420623816759.215734.9269711759/10154472434176760/?type=3&theater).
I said a few years ago how sad it was that the Governator [was one of the few smartest Republicans](http://www.popsci.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-dont-give-what-you-think-about-climate-change) left. He still is.
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/972 "2016-10-08T18:18:36Z")
> [@AK84](#):
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> \*\*Tamerlane,\*\*you are a lot smarter than most of the others here (including me), but are you really unaware that many men (and especially braggarts like the Donald) love to boast about non-existent sexual prowess and conquests? I mean, its pretty much SOP. He is not boasting about committing sexual assualt, he is boasting about his virility and attractiveness.
Until I pass a BAR exam I think I’ll table a debate on who is smarter than who ;).
But in this case where there is smoke, I expect it is likely there is fire. It would one thing if it was just some joe schmo boasting about how he is so irresistible all the ladies love it when he grabs their crotch. But Trump really does have a track record of complaints and a very obvious GIGANTIC ego to match.
Like I said, I don’t think it proves anything. It’s just a nasty, off-the-cuff comment by a pig of man. But much like I _suspect_ O.J. Simpson is guilty but can’t prove it, I kinda suspect Trump is as well.
Of course I also agree this should be relatively small potatoes in the election, as his policies are already far more serious disqualifiers for the presidency than his nasty-ass personality. And I also agree everybody and their cousin should have already known he was a pig. But any port in the storm - I’m happy to see him with his tail in a crack of his own making over anything. If this puts a nail in the coffin of his candidacy, I am ecstatic. Couldn’t have happened to a “nicer” guy.
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### Author:  [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/973 "2016-10-08T18:21:51Z")
Fox News meteorologists are getting more airtime than they have all year up until now.
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/974 "2016-10-08T18:22:44Z")
While admitting it’s still a very slim chance, CNN has already started detailing the process if Trump really does drop out. They said the rules are vague but basically there are two scenarios. One is a new convention, virtually impossible at this point. The other is the RNC would select a replacement, but it would not be a majority vote. Something about each state would have the same number of votes as at the convention, and states’ votes could be split.
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### Author:  [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/975 "2016-10-08T18:26:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I said a few years ago how sad it was that the Governator [was one of the few smartest Republicans](http://www.popsci.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-dont-give-what-you-think-about-climate-change) left. He still is.
He’s actually on the very short list of Republicans I’ve voted for. Not in the initial recall election against Davis ( which was a farce IMHO ), but in his subsequent run. I think he made a very real attempt at bipartisanship during his first term.
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### Author:  [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/976 "2016-10-08T18:34:39Z")
I feel like there’s a time-machine debate going on here where some posts have been transported from the Mad Men era where it has to be explained that grabbing a woman’s genitals or forcing kisses on women is a problem even if she doesn’t immediately slap him or threaten to have a word with her breadwinner husband.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/977 "2016-10-08T18:34:51Z")
If they expel Trump, his base will not support a replacement. And everybody will be filing against everybody else, lawyers will gather to feed. No chance it gets resolved quickly. Any way it goes, a big chunk of needed votes gets pissed away. The Republicans are playing Russian Roulette with an automatic.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/978 "2016-10-08T18:35:22Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Until I pass a BAR exam I think I’ll table a debate on who is smarter than who ;).
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> But in this case where there is smoke, I expect it is likely there is fire. It would one thing if it was just some joe schmo boasting about how he is so irresistible all the ladies love it when he grabs their crotch. But Trump really does have a track record of complaints and a very obvious GIGANTIC ego to match.
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> Like I said, I don’t think it proves anything. It’s just a nasty, off-the-cuff comment by a pig of man. But much like I _suspect_ O.J. Simpson is guilty but can’t prove it, I kinda suspect Trump is as well.
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> Of course I also agree this should be relatively small potatoes in the election, as his policies are already far more serious disqualifiers for the presidency than his nasty-ass personality. And I also agree everybody and their cousin should have already known he was a pig. But any port in the storm - I’m happy to see him with his tail in a crack of his own making over anything. If this puts a nail in the coffin of his candidacy, I am ecstatic. Couldn’t have happened to a “nicer” guy.
Well said (except the “who” instead of “whom” part 😉 ). The clever folks who thought they could nominate a celebrity and not have all kinds of shit come out about said celebrity are seeing the chickens come home to roost. This is a guy who has been in the public eye for decades, mainly as an ego-charged, big mouthed buffoon. Well, they got what they deserved!!
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/979 "2016-10-08T18:36:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> …seeing the chickens come home to roost…
Those aren’t chickens. Chickens can’t even actually fly, never mind circling overhead waiting for you to die.
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### Author:  [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/980 "2016-10-08T18:36:57Z")
The Republicans deserting Trump remind me of that scene in the 1993 movie “Dave” in which we see Bob Alexander(Frank Langella) left alone in his living room after only minutes before being surrounded by so-called “supporters” who are getting out while the getting is good.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/981 "2016-10-08T18:37:13Z")
> [@Bayard](#):
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> At last count, three Republican senators (Sasse, Lee, and Crapo) have called for Trump to step down. Assorted other lawmakers have as well. The chairman of the Ohio Republican Party has assured members they won’t face punishment if they abandon Trump.
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> [http://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/08/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-the-latest.html?referer=https://www.google.com/](http://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/08/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-the-latest.html?referer=https://www.google.com/)
Senator Thune is now calling on Trump to step down as well.
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### Author:  [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/982 "2016-10-08T18:37:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> They let you do it. There isn’t anything in there that says something along the lines of “she tried to get away, but I grabbed her anyway”. Now, you might question whether they really “let” him do it, but that is what he is claiming.
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> If I’m missing something, please quote the part where there is a clear act of sexual assault. [Here is the transcript.](https://mic.com/articles/156222/donald-trump-billy-bush-leaked-video-full-transcript-read-the-full-sexist-exchange-here#.rXIdi7gPk)
Guys like you and Trump are why I always carry pepper spray and a knife in my purse.
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