# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/81 "2016-10-01T17:52:12Z")

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[Trump has promised that he can be the nastiest candidate.](http://time.com/4515676/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-marriage/)

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> Trump, aiming to make up for a widely panned performance in the first presidential debate, said he hoped the topic of the former president’s extramarital affairs would turn off female voters and unsettle Hillary Clinton.
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> “She’s nasty, but I can be nastier than she ever can be,” Trump said.

Whew, that’s a relief. Americans definitely thought he was too kind. What everyone wants is to see who can be nastier. I have every confidence that Trump is correct here. He can, and will be the nastiest candidate in this or any other election.

Congratulations, Mr. Trump!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/82 "2016-10-01T17:58:57Z")

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The more I think about [this](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/lp/volunteer-to-be-a-trump-election-observer), the more concerned I am. I am curious what information he sends to these election observer volunteers - but not quite curious enough to sign up.

“Carry a cane, even if you don’t need. Intimidation!”

“Remember - no need t challenge whites - everyone else is fair game!”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/83 "2016-10-01T18:00:49Z")

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In the same interview, Mr. Trump gives us a terrific insight into how his mind works. He simply denies that things happened. If he does not talk about it, or if he does not want to think about it… then IT NEVER HAPPENED. And he seems genuinely confused why anybody thinks differently.

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> Asked if he ever cheated on his wives, Trump responded: “No — I never discuss it. I never discuss it. It was never a problem.”  
> And when asked specifically about his affair with Maples, he responded, "I don’t talk about it. I wasn’t president of the United States. I don’t talk about it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/84 "2016-10-01T18:03:25Z")

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In International Trump News, Newt Gingrich sits down with Peter Mansbridge of the CBC. In the interview, Newt gives a very STRONG endorsement of Trump:

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> “I think he has idiosyncrasies, but they’re not abnormal for someone who is a strong entrepreneur,” he said.

Trump: “Not Abnormal”. At least not for an entrepreneur. High praise indeed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/85 "2016-10-01T18:38:29Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> I’m mostly just surprised that it took this long for him to go back on his word. Hopefully someone will hold his feet to the fire over it in a subsequent debate.

Hillary Clinton: “Donald now says he’ll ‘have to see’ whether…”  
Donald Trump: “ **Wrooong**.”  
The Moderator: “Mister Trump, you told the New York Times that…”  
Donald Trump: “No, you’re wrong.”  
The Moderator: “The record shows otherwise, but why…”  
Donald Trump: “The record does _not_ show that. The record shows that I’m right.”

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/86 "2016-10-01T20:45:54Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> In the same interview, Mr. Trump gives us a terrific insight into how his mind works. He simply denies that things happened. If he does not talk about it, or if he does not want to think about it… then IT NEVER HAPPENED. And he seems genuinely confused why anybody thinks differently.
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> > Asked if he ever cheated on his wives, Trump responded: “No — I never discuss it. I never discuss it. It was never a problem.”  
> > And when asked specifically about his affair with Maples, he responded, "I don’t talk about it. I wasn’t president of the United States. I don’t talk about it.

He’s still got the religious right vote locked up:

[QUOTE=Moses]  
Thou shalt not commit adultery. Unless, of course, you’re not the current President of the US, then no worries. I mean, boys will be boys, amiright?  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/87 "2016-10-01T20:54:09Z")

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Adultery isn’t so bad, so long is it doesn’t lead to dancing.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/88 "2016-10-01T21:08:22Z")

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FTSOTROTW (For the sake of the rest of the world) please ensure Trump doesn’t get within spitting distance of the White House. We in TROTW fear the global consequences of such an event…we’ve already got one Kim Jong-un in the world, we really don’t need an American version.

Pretty please?

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/89 "2016-10-01T21:11:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Adultery isn’t so bad, so long is it doesn’t lead to dancing.

Wow, they really did get into your brain down there in Waco, didn’t they?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/90 "2016-10-01T21:19:23Z")

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Molly Ivins called it “the Vatican of the Baptists”. I prefer “Athens on the Brazos”, myself.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/91 "2016-10-01T21:22:54Z")

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Check it out, only about a hundred miles from you, right? An hours drive, Texas style. Wouldn’t even finish your six-pack.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/92 "2016-10-01T21:39:14Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump: “Not Abnormal”. At least not for an entrepreneur. High praise indeed.

Papoon for President!

You know he’s NOT INSANE!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/93 "2016-10-01T22:03:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Trump has promised that he can be the nastiest candidate.](http://time.com/4515676/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-marriage/)
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> Whew, that’s a relief. Americans definitely thought he was too kind. What everyone wants is to see who can be nastier. I have every confidence that Trump is correct here. He can, and will be the nastiest candidate in this or any other election.
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> Congratulations, Mr. Trump!

That’s “Miss Jackson” if you’re nasty…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/94 "2016-10-01T22:53:21Z")

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It worries me when I don’t understand a nasty remark.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/95 "2016-10-01T23:15:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> It worries me when I don’t understand a nasty remark.

[Nasty.](https://youtu.be/dSLz0YYsJHA?t=3m1s)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/96 "2016-10-01T23:44:55Z")

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As I mentioned in the now closed Trump thread, Julian Assange is running out of time.

I’m beginning to become skeptical of his candidacy destroying claims…

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/97 "2016-10-02T00:04:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Molly Ivins called it “the Vatican of the Baptists”. I prefer “Athens on the Brazos”, myself.

I think you’re giving it too much credit. If the Vatican cared about football, her comparison would be dead on.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Check it out, only about a hundred miles from you, right? An hours drive, Texas style. Wouldn’t even finish your six-pack.

Been through more times than I can count. It’s on the way to Austin, after all. I’ve never seen reason to stop. You can see Southern Baptists outside of that town, anyway. My own grandmother swore that Jesus turned the water into grape juice, for instance.  
WRT to the thread subject: I’m pretty happy with how the stretch looks. Trump is running out of time to erase his intemperate behavior, and is appearing congenitally unable to stop behaving that way, anyway.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/98 "2016-10-02T01:29:17Z")

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Times just posted…

The Times has obtained Donald Trump’s 1995 tax records. They suggest he could have paid no federal income tax for 18 years.

Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:09 PM EDT

Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show. The 1995 tax records, never before disclosed, reveal the extraordinary tax benefits that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, derived from the financial wreckage he left behind in the early 1990s through mismanagement of three Atlantic City casinos, his ill-fated foray into the airline business and his ill-timed purchase of the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan.

[NYTimes](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html?emc=edit_na_20161001&nlid=43071900&ref=cta&_r=0) Paywall

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/99 "2016-10-02T01:51:07Z")

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I like the “could have” in the title. As if there’s a chance he paid any taxes.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/100 "2016-10-02T02:15:18Z")

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And it appears that tonight at a rally, Trump is accusing Hillary of being unfaithful to Bill. I continue to be amazed at the depths he’s able to plumb.

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