# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 54
### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1063 "2016-10-08T21:04:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#):
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> … and there goes John McCain…
I missed that, did JMc comment?
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1064 "2016-10-08T21:06:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Rape and sexual assault are a lot worse than mere asshole behavior. I think that’s what’s driving the push back you’re getting.
No, I’m talking about unwanted, physical sexual advances. It would not surprise me at all if \> 50% of rich, powerful, famous men of Trump’s age did, at some time, grope or otherwise make an unwanted physical advance towards a woman. That is in no way to say that it’s OK, just that it does not surprise me. And with all we know about Trump, I would be shocked (regardless of the existence of this tape) to find out that he had never made unwanted sexual advances towards women. The man is a pig among pigs.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1065 "2016-10-08T21:07:41Z")
McCain withdraws support.
> **[McCain withdraws support for Trump](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300030-mccain-withdraws-support-for-trump/)**
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> “We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified.”
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### Author:  [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1066 "2016-10-08T21:08:09Z")
Now he comes out of his tower, waves to fans who are chanting his name… I always knew assholes who wear caps backwards would show their support. I mean, how many of them are there? 😃
The fact that anyone will wait outside to get a glimpse of this man-- and are excited about it-- are complete pieces of shit. This is how I felt about him in 1988. Glad my feelings haven’t changed.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1067 "2016-10-08T21:10:05Z")
> [@Maastricht](#):
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> I wonder why I find Melania’s response totally predictable, and…canned. She sounds like she wanted to do and say the thing that would be appropriate, and that made Donald happy, and not like she actually had any thoughts or feelings on the matter.
> Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Obviously someone wrote that for her.
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### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1068 "2016-10-08T21:10:07Z")
Good move McCain. Well played.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1069 "2016-10-08T21:11:19Z")
All these GOP Senators who are withdrawing their support… are they going to publicly say they are voting for Hillary? There are going to be some very interesting Sunday talk shows tomorrow…
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### Author:  [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1070 "2016-10-08T21:11:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Obviously someone wrote that for her.
It was a bit of a problem. She couldn’t find a statement from Michelle to plagiarize.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1071 "2016-10-08T21:11:27Z")
> [@monstro](#):
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> [Gross boardroom encounter with Trump](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/donald-trump-woman-incident/index.html)
And this is the danger for Trump, and this is why some republicans are bolting from him NOW as opposed to waiting for more. This may be merely the wind gust ahead of an epic shit storm that could well be approaching, and republicans want to be on record as saying they got out while they could.
Maybe this is it and nothing else happens, but what if this turns into a Bill Cosby type thing in which several women claim they were groped – or worse?
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1072 "2016-10-08T21:12:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> No, I’m talking about unwanted, physical sexual advances. It would not surprise me at all if \> 50% of rich, powerful, famous men of Trump’s age did, at some time, grope or otherwise make an unwanted physical advance towards a woman. That is in no way to say that it’s OK, just that it does not surprise me. And with all we know about Trump, I would be shocked (regardless of the existence of this tape) to find out that he had never made unwanted sexual advances towards women. The man is a pig among pigs.
What you’re describing is sexual assault.
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### Author:  [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1073 "2016-10-08T21:13:48Z")
> [@Locrian](#):
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> Now he comes out of his tower, waves to fans who are chanting his name…
He was defiant with his fist in the air. The apology was an empty gesture. This is the real Orange Bozo acting without shame.
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### Author:  [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1074 "2016-10-08T21:15:48Z")
> [@asahi](#):
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> And this is the danger for Trump, and this is why some republicans are bolting from him NOW as opposed to waiting for more. This may be merely the wind gust ahead of an epic shit storm that could well be approaching, and republicans want to be on record as saying they got out while they could.
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> Maybe this is it and nothing else happens, but what if this turns into a Bill Cosby type thing in which several women claim they were groped – or worse?
I honestly believe the Democrats are in possession of at least a few more bombs.
Trump’s taxes, then Trump’s groping women, what’s next? You know they have more.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1075 "2016-10-08T21:19:21Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Good move McCain. Well played.
If McCain had had any respect for his fellow veterans, he would never given his support in the first place.
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### Author:  [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1076 "2016-10-08T21:20:45Z")
What if every weekend between now and election is like this one? A different revelation each time.
I need to get a popcorn popper.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1077 "2016-10-08T21:21:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What you’re describing is sexual assault.
Agreed. The “no” was in reference to “asshole behavior”. All sexual assault is asshole behavior, but not all asshole behavior is sexual assault.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1078 "2016-10-08T21:22:32Z")
> [@monstro](#):
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> What if every weekend between now and election is like this one? A different revelation each time.
I won’t be satisfied until I hear Sean Hannity say “Now, this WikiLeaks video clearly shows Trump riding with Putin on the latter’s horse, hanging onto the Russian leader, while both are shirtless”.
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### Author:  [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1079 "2016-10-08T21:24:14Z")
McCain no longer endorses Trump. McCain can’t tolerate boasts about sexual assaults. Better late than never.
It’s a tricky thing for rats to chose the right time to jump off the Trumptanic. Jump too early and you seem disloyal to the party. Jump too late and you go down with the ship.
[http://www.johnmccain.com/statement-from-john-mccain-withdrawing-support-of-donald-trump/](http://www.johnmccain.com/statement-from-john-mccain-withdrawing-support-of-donald-trump/)
> [@](#):
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> “But Donald Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy. Cindy, with her strong background in human rights and respect for women fully agrees with me in this.
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> “Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump. I have never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton. We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be President.”
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### Author:  [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1080 "2016-10-08T21:26:49Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Unlike a couple of people upthread, I think Pence could potentially do himself a world of good by quitting. I think staying in hurts him and cutting free hurts him much less and potentially helps him. Of course, I have been wrong so many times this season that I’m obviously rather stupid, so there’s that.
I think Pence has already been irreparably damaged not only by accepting the VP nomination, but by not coming out and roundly condemning him for his comments on this tape. (And no, this [lame comment](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/pence-says-he-was-offended-by-trumps-remarks-about-groping-women-229355) isn’t a condemnation. It’s the verbal equivalent of wagging your finger at a dog who’s just set your house on fire and saying “Bad dog!”) Maybe among the hard-core Republicans he can save himself by unhitching from this wagon careening off a cliff, but his name will forevermore be linked to Trump’s and that’s going to be political suicide.
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1081 "2016-10-08T21:27:35Z")
[Tic Tacs have now joined Skittles](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/08/1579492/-Things-we-never-thought-we-d-say-a-second-candy-has-come-forward-to-disavow-Donald-Trump) in deploring Trump, in similar language.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1082 "2016-10-08T21:32:35Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Tic Tacs have now joined Skittles](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/08/1579492/-Things-we-never-thought-we-d-say-a-second-candy-has-come-forward-to-disavow-Donald-Trump) in deploring Trump, in similar language.
> [@](#):
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> Who’s next? Where does this end? [del]Littlefinger[/del] Butterfinger bars? 100 Grand Bars?
😃
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