# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1143 "2016-10-08T23:55:22Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Trump has managed to sew up the MRA vote. I was afraid they were going to vote for Hillary.

The plan was that the MRA vote would be able to weaken Hillary’s support among women by insisting that Hillary is a man-hating femi-nazi and probably a secret lesbian, and so are all her supporters, and Real Women need a Real Man for president.

No, it hasn’t worked, because the MRA voters are basically horrifying and not too bright, but they do exist and they did try. Remember - the “alt-right” describes themselves as “dangerously bright”. They all believe that they are the Top Men in question.

If the GOP hadn’t nominated an Alpha Male caricature, the MRA strategy could have sounded more subtle.

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### Author: ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1144 "2016-10-08T23:56:17Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Yeah, all of his debate prep time, such as it is, is occupied by the latest disaster. And the last part of the tape shows exactly how he is going to attack, and I’m sure Hillary is ready for him.  
> I’ve heard comments that it was a video because the Trumpers didn’t trust him to stay on message live, and the content was clearly negotiated, since attacking the Clintons in his apology speech is just stupid.  
> I predict that if he does as badly Sunday as we expect, the downticket Republicans will be streaming for the exits. Maybe we can lock them.

I’ve never been happier to have been proven wrong. But when he melts down Sunday this will be just a trickle.

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### Author: ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1145 "2016-10-08T23:56:44Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> That Trump has gotten 0 endorsements from newspapers tells you all you need to know. Also, papers who have never endorsed anyone have come out against him.

That just proves the media is in the tank for Crooked Hillary (this is what Trump supporters actually believe).

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### Author: ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1146 "2016-10-08T23:58:42Z")

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Yeah, the Twitter links I posted upthread here are full of stuff about how the media is all conspiring to crown Hillary.

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1147 "2016-10-08T23:58:47Z")

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Trump is going full-on rogue, breaking with Priebus, replacing him with Giuliani on Face The Nation, saying they wanted somebody who “represents the campaign”. (Original link was deleted, sorry.)  
The RNC has stopped doing campaign work for Trump:

> **[RNC halts Victory project work for Trump](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363)**
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> POLITICO obtains email sent to vendors to ‘hold/stop’ all mail program efforts.

Trump almost certain to bring up Juanita Broadrick tomorrow:

> <https://twitter.com/harry_horton/status/784887509767561217>

Leaving Trump Tower this afternoon, Giuliani signals GOP civil war:

> <https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/784893041710551040>

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1148 "2016-10-09T00:01:42Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The RNC has stopped doing campaign work for Trump:
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363)

Huh. Seems like it was just [a week or two ago](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-party-penalties-former-gop-trump-endorsement/) that the RNC was threatening anybody who wasn’t actively supporting Trump.

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### Author: ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1149 "2016-10-09T00:20:20Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I think he’s skating on the edge of a fullblown meltdown, I’d hate to be a lackey of his he feels free to take it out on right now, and I would be shocked if he can keep his temper under control in the debate tomorrow.

Hillary shouldn’t shake his hand. He’ll _definitely_ be breaking out the polonium-spike ring that Putin sent him to use ‘in case it’s needed.’

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### Author: ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1150 "2016-10-09T00:24:30Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> One of the producers of The Apprentice, Bill Pruitt, says there are far worse Trump tapes.
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209)  
> Producer Mark Burnett has all of this footage under lock and key.
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> [Any footage of Trump's off-air 'Apprentice' talk under wraps | AP News](https://www.apnews.com/a1babd280c9c4f94a7abab4fecc3df57)

Some sources on the right also suspect worse to come:

> **[Coming Soon: Two More 'Major' Anti-Trump Oppo Drops?](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/10/08/hoo-boy-two-more-major-antitrump-oppo-drops-coming-n2229679)**
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> Abandon Ship.

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> As this extraordinary and unprecedented (debate eve!) day has unfolded, dozens of elected GOP leaders are rescinding their endorsements of Donald Trump and/or calling on him to withdraw from the race over yesterday’s revelation of the 11-year-old audio clip we told you about last night. This firestorm has engulfed the Trump campaign, prompting denunciations from the nominee’s running mate and wife, and a rare apology from Trump himself. Mike Pence is reportedly “beside himself” over the episode, telling Trump that he cannot speak on his behalf for at least 48 hours. His official calendar has been cleared. With rank-and-file Republicans and major GOP donors in a state of panic, one major Trump ally and surrogate told Fox News that there are more shoes left to drop:
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> Radio host Hugh Hewitt, who has been urging listeners to support Trump for weeks, joined the chorus of voices seeking Trump’s ouster, citing “more and worse oppo” to come.

I begin to wonder if the republicans that did not jump ship early, even after seemingly worse acts from Trump, are doing it now because they have acquired that information too.

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1151 "2016-10-09T00:26:40Z")

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That is the smart way to play it, GIGO. Hit him with one shot, show your hand to his supporters, make them fold. Then, barrage .

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1152 "2016-10-09T00:26:58Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> 93 year old Bob Dole and Bizarre Ben Carson are still supporting the Orange Groper.

And I think Paul Ryan is holding on for some reason. I keep expecting to turn on the news and find out Paul Ryan has unendorsed him as well.

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### Author: ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1153 "2016-10-09T00:29:25Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Hillary shouldn’t shake his hand.

A poster on another board I read suggested when Trump extends his hand, Hillary should cover her crotch. 😃

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1154 "2016-10-09T00:31:58Z")

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Hillary should do exactly as the current protocol demands - she is the professional, after all, and a 4yr SoS.

(But she shouldn’t gloat, either! 😉 )

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1155 "2016-10-09T00:33:08Z")

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I was wondering if she was going to diminutize his name… “Don” or “Donny”… but, now, why?

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### Author: ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1156 "2016-10-09T00:37:31Z")

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I’m surprised Paul Ryan is still holding on. He never wanted to endorse Trump in the first place. Now he has a legitimate reason (He’s always had a legitimate reason. But now he has one in the eyes of the GOP.) and he’s _still_ on board? WTF Paul? GTFO!

Or don’t you spineless bastard.

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1157 "2016-10-09T00:41:38Z")

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Ryan is at his “best” when he carefully judges which way the crowd is already going and then hastens to get near but not at the front while loudly proclaiming that he’s been leading all along.

He’ll act late tomorrow.

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### Author: ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1158 "2016-10-09T00:47:23Z")

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The timing of this tape and the leak regarding Trump’s tax returns are too good politically for this not to have come from the Clinton camp. Which could mean there is more stuff coming down the pipeline.

And just last week Trump was threatening to say hurtful things about Clinton’s family. I find it slightly endearing that Trump thinks his school yard insults could bring down Clinton’s political machine. She just steamrolled right over him.

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1159 "2016-10-09T00:50:31Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I’m surprised Paul Ryan is still holding on.

The day after the election, it will be Paul Ryan and the Circus Peanut, together. Alone.

We should find a vault to lock them in.

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### Author: ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1160 "2016-10-09T00:52:38Z")

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Curiosity - has anyone here heard people discussing this in the real world? I mean from people who don’t follow politics in depth? Revelation just came yesterday after I got home from work, so didn’t get chance to hear what they might say. Only place I’ve been since then was to get my hair cut, and people were just discussing the hurricane then.

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1161 "2016-10-09T00:57:19Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> A poster on another board I read suggested when Trump extends his hand, Hillary should cover her crotch. 😃

I was thinking that the next SNL debate sketch will be either that, or having “Trump” extend his hand only to grab “Hillary” by the crotch and start kissing her.

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### Author: ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1162 "2016-10-09T00:58:35Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> The day after the election, it will be Paul Ryan and the Circus Peanut, together. Alone.
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> We should find a vault to lock them in.

Might I suggest a [Vault Tec Corporation](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault-Tec_Corporation) Vault?

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