# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/101 "2016-10-02T03:47:21Z")
I received a pro-Trump political mailer today. At least some of my neighbors received the same mailer. It says that Hillary won’t change a thing and that Donald Trump will make our communities strong again. It also says “Paid for by The New York Republican State Committee” and it is addressed to "The _my lastname_ Household, so they must have used a mailing list. I’m a registered Democrat so I assume they’re sending them to a list of registered voters. The weird thing is that I live about 20 miles outside of Philly. So apparently the New York Republican State Committee is spending money in PA. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/102 "2016-10-02T04:47:30Z")
I’m voting Marla sent them. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/103 "2016-10-02T05:00:29Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > And it appears that tonight at a rally, Trump is accusing Hillary of being unfaithful to Bill. I continue to be amazed at the depths he’s able to plumb. I hope he’s claiming Hillary keeps Huma on as a rentgirl, and that she recites Muslim Brotherhood terrorist tracts while scissoring. Hasn’t that been the joke for the past year or so? ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/104 "2016-10-02T14:40:43Z")
At that aforementioned Manheim, PA speech, Trump officially went off his fucking rocker. [He went off-script and interrupted himself for a half-hour](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/02/as-news-of-trumps-taxes-broke-he-goes-off-script-at-a-rally-in-pennsylvania/), unable to complete a thought, and his speech included: - The intended “October Surprise” for him, which involved a bullshit made-up scandal where Clinton allegedly insulted Sanders voters at a fundraiser back in February by mockingly calling them “basement dwellers.” \* - Then he interrupted that message that’s supposed to get Sanders supporters over to his side with self-aggrandizement that insulted Sanders and his supporters: > [@](#): > > "Trump demeaned and mocked Sanders himself, saying that he has “a much bigger movement than Bernie Sanders ever had” and that he has “much bigger crowds than Bernie Sanders ever had.” Trump accused Sanders of tarnishing his legacy by making a “deal with the devil” and supporting Clinton. “Crazy Bernie,” Trump said at one point. - He mimicked Hillary’s wobbly moment at the 9/11 memorial. (Because mocking someone’s physical ailments went so well for him before.) - He again compared his temperament with Hillary’s: > [@](#): > > — He claimed that he has a “winning temperament” while Clinton has “bad temperament.” Trump continued: “She could be crazy. She could actually be crazy.” - Even-tempered Trump then got people to BOO at Lester Holt and President Obama. - He again thinks our country is the equivalent of a 3rd world country because you can’t acid-wash tweets. I guess he regrets that Hillary’s better at deleting shit than he is? I don’t even know what this means: > [@](#): > > “How many people have acid-washed or bleached a tweet?” Trump asked the crowd. “How many? That you deleted? So you deleted it but that’s not good enough. No, this is getting crazy. Our country is becoming a third-world country.” - He told his supporters (mostly white) to vote and then go to “certain places” to make sure there weren’t any problems because “you know what I’m talking about…” Yes, Donald. Yes, we do. - He went on a tangent complaining about how movies aren’t as good as they used to be. - He complained about the microphone again. (Because the mic made him sound like a douchebag, apparently?) - He did indeed claim that Hillary wasn’t loyal to Bill, although graciously adding, “and why should she be?” Thrice-married adulterer Trump accusing Hillary of adultery. It is to laugh. So… yeah. He is going rogue and unhinged. Kinda liking it, if I didn’t think Trump (and his alt-Right crowds) so incredibly dangerous. - = Which she didn’t. She was sympathetically saying that she understands why young people are disappointed with the process and with their situation, caught in the Great Recession and unable to get the sort of independence and security after college the way previous generations could. That’s why they followed Sanders because they wanted a fairer system. How is that insulting? I hope people don’t fall for this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/105 "2016-10-02T14:56:38Z")
Man, I would love to see Kellyanne Conway’s face when he goes off like that. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/106 "2016-10-02T14:57:04Z")
Sanders has announced that she was right. That many of his youngest followers are unable to leave home through no fault of their own. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/107 "2016-10-02T15:07:09Z")
> [@choie](#): > > At that aforementioned Manheim, PA speech, Trump officially went off his fucking rocker. The 538 now cast has swung 24% in the last week towards Clinton! Keep it up Donnie, I want that percentage of winning to head down down down down and stay there. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/108 "2016-10-02T16:29:02Z")
He’s lost his mind. Why aren’t his kids discreetly getting him to a doctor? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/109 "2016-10-02T16:30:17Z")
I prefer the natural-wear look on my tweets. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/110 "2016-10-02T16:35:53Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > He’s lost his mind. Why aren’t his kids discreetly getting him to a doctor? Maybe they are, although I doubt it. It may be that they’re aware of his financial situation and believe that the only thing that could possibly save their inheritance would be him being elected President, so they don’t want to rock the boat by risking a leak about his mental health. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/111 "2016-10-02T16:44:00Z")
[How Hostile Poll-Watchers Could Hand Pennsylvania to Trump](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-election-pennsylvania-polls-voters-trump-clinton-214297) > [@](#): > > The GOP attorneys were acting as poll watchers. A common practice in many states, partisan poll watching helps parties get out the vote and keep an eye out for irregularities. But in Pennsylvania, laws governing how observers can challenge voters are unusually broad, and that makes them susceptible to abuse. > > On that day in 2004, students who were challenged by the GOP lawyers were told they needed to find a friend who could sign an affidavit proving their identity and residence. Other battleground states, concerned that their voter-challenge laws could be misused, have limited or even abolished them in the past decade. But Pennsylvania hasn’t modified its rules. That worries election experts, who fear Donald Trump’s persistent calls for supporters to monitor the polls to prevent cheating could create conflicts and chaos inside and outside of precincts across the state. I’m glad Trump is busy screwing his chances in all swing states. If we’re lucky, he’ll lose in enough of them that winning PA won’t save him. Trump’s candidacy has been a surreal thing. On the one hand, I’m glad that he’s pushing for a massive GOP loss and fallout. On the other hand, even if he quit now, his big mouth has already done severe domestic and international damage. Even if the Democrats take the White House and both houses of Congress, I think we’re going to be cleaning up this buffoon’s mess for years to come. The only question is whether it will turn out to be a cleansing forest fire, or a nuclear fallout. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/112 "2016-10-02T16:45:47Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > He’s lost his mind. Why aren’t his kids discreetly getting him to a doctor? Dr. Bornstein has become so highly requested since the letter, his appointments are backed up into 2017… ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/113 "2016-10-02T17:06:13Z")
Assange is at it again, this time claiming he’s going to make an announcement from his balcony on Tuesday which will “finish Clinton”. > **['Wednesday Hillary Clinton is done': Reports Julian Assange's announcement on...](https://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-reports-julian-assanges-announcement-tuesday-will-finish-396507/)** > > Is it the October surprise? Yeah yeah Julian, you said it was going to be before the first debate, either shit or get off the pot. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/114 "2016-10-02T17:32:35Z")
“As soon as my guys finish making their edits, er, I mean, as soon as they upload their email bukkake, you can have it!” ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/115 "2016-10-02T18:03:12Z")
> [@choie](#): > > At that aforementioned Manheim, PA speech, Trump officially went off his fucking rocker. I read that article this morning and was troubled by it. I know Trump has gone off-script many times, but I’ve always had the impression he was – well, I was going to say “coherent,” but he’s often not coherent. Maybe it’s that I thought he would usually complete a thought when he went off-script. This article makes it seem like he didn’t do that at all in this rally. I’m holding to my theory that he’s sundowning, but it is of course possible that he’s lost his grip on reality. In either case, what’s troubling is that his followers can see this behavior and not view it as a real problem for POTUS. Or do they just convince himself that he won’t go off his rocker as president? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/116 "2016-10-02T18:04:01Z")
Assange is suffering from Kanye West Syndrome. “Pay attention to meeeeeee!” ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/117 "2016-10-02T18:29:50Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I read that article this morning and was troubled by it. > > I know Trump has gone off-script many times, but I’ve always had the impression he was – well, I was going to say “coherent,” but he’s often not coherent. Maybe it’s that I thought he would usually complete a thought when he went off-script. This article makes it seem like he didn’t do that at all in this rally. > > I’m holding to my theory that he’s sundowning, but it is of course possible that he’s lost his grip on reality. In either case, what’s troubling is that his followers can see this behavior and not view it as a real problem for POTUS. Or do they just convince himself that he won’t go off his rocker as president? I think they just hate Hillary so much that, to them, nothing else matters. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/118 "2016-10-02T18:48:56Z")
[SNL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQGBZQrtT0) Presidential Debate ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/119 "2016-10-02T19:51:31Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Assange is at it again, this time claiming he’s going to make an announcement from his balcony on Tuesday which will “finish Clinton”. > ['Wednesday Hillary Clinton is done': Reports Julian Assange's announcement on Tuesday will finish her](http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-reports-julian-assanges-announcement-tuesday-will-finish-396507) > > Yeah yeah Julian, you said it was going to be before the first debate, either shit or get off the pot. The article was just updated to announce that the announcement has been cancelled due to “security concerns.”:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/120 "2016-10-02T21:22:52Z")
This March 2016 article is worth reposting. [“An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector”](http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector) Her predictions have been right so far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=7)