# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1303 "2016-10-09T20:32:16Z")
> [@Grrr](#):
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> Last time I listened to HS, Giuliani was still mayor. I remember how in love with the guy he was.
The two together must have looked like Herman Munster & Grand Pa.
Maybe by today they’ve added Christie as Pugsley… Roger Ailes as Uncle Fester… Ivanka as Wednesday… Malaria as Morticia… Trump as Gomez Adams…
Pence as Lerch… KellyAnne as Grand Ma-mah… Ted Cruz as “Thing” (hey, he’s good with phones…) and Hannity as “WTF is he Talking about?” Cousin It…
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1304 "2016-10-09T20:34:16Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> The two together must have looked like Herman Munster & Grand Pa.
Not if Giuliani was wearing drag again.
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### Author:  [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1305 "2016-10-09T20:39:15Z")
> [@filmore](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that video of him using that word would actually gain him more supporters in the deplorable basket.
There’s a video (I think the New York Times put together) of Trump supporters behaving badly in and outside his rallies. Trump mentions Obama in his speech, and one of the deplorables shouts “F\*\*\* that n\*\*ger!”
So, yeah. I think Trump has hit rock bottom, and a mere N-word isn’t going to lose him anybody.
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### Author:  [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1306 "2016-10-09T20:39:59Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> There’s supposedly a $5 million penalty for anyone that lets it leak, so people are appealing to Mark Cuban to cover the fine.
I think he might. 😃
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### Author:  [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1307 "2016-10-09T20:46:47Z")
> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I think Trump has hit rock bottom, and a mere N-word isn’t going to lose him anybody.
The Republicans can’t keep him as the nominee if Trump N-word audio leaks out. It would be too damaging. They would be forced to take emergency action to jettison Trump or risk being equated with the KKK.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1308 "2016-10-09T20:53:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> You made a statement about my personal beliefs. I disabused you of the mistake you made.
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> Now, do you want to talk about the trustworthiness of liars or not? I don’t trust them. YMMV.
So you don’t trust anyone, right? Or are you of the opinion that you know people who have never told a lie? :dubious:
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### Author:  [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1309 "2016-10-09T20:53:47Z")
Arianne Zucker, the Days of our Lives actress who was waiting in the parking lot for the Bush and Trump van to arrive, has issued a statement.
> **[TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter](http://www.twitlonger.com/show/nn05u1)**
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> TwitLonger is the easy way to post more than 140 characters to Twitter
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> “My name is Arianne (R-E-on) ZUCKER (Zooker) and I am a strong, independent, hard working mother, business woman and partner to a great man. I have grown to learn that the words of others cannot effect the value of my self worth or define the content of my character. How we treat one another, whether behind closed doors, locker rooms or face to face, should be done with kindness, dignity and respect. Unfortunately, there are too many people in power who abuse their position and disregard these simple principles and are rewarded for it. In understanding the magnitude of this situation, I choose to stand tall with self respect and use my voice to enrich, inspire and elevate the best of who we are as people”.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1310 "2016-10-09T20:55:04Z")
Anyone check the r/The\_Donald subreddit lately? It looks like Baghdad Bob to me – here are some of the headlines:
The Democrats are in mega(maga)-panic mode
IT’S FUCKING HAPPENING: CNN IS BEGINNING TO ADMIT DEFEAT! [that the sexual assault tape doesn’t matter]
Donald J. Trump - "LA Times- USC Dornsife Sunday Poll: Donald Trump Retains 2 Point Lead Over Hillary
DEMORALIZATION is a known Communist tactic where they use overwhelming media and coordination to destroy cohesiveness of opposition. TRUMP volunteered to charge the barricades of corruption. HE VOLUNTEERED FOR A SUICIDE RUN AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT. It’s time to give him 500% SUPPORT.
New Wikileaks Emails Confirm Clinton Lied About Almost Everything
(end headlines)
These guys really live in their own world. It’s like reading North Korean propaganda.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1311 "2016-10-09T20:56:03Z")
> [@filmore](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that video of him using that word would actually gain him more supporters in the deplorable basket.
The big lesson of this election is that the deplorables are a minority.
If the GOP is smart, it will regard that minority as toxic waste.
If it isn’t, it will continue to have Trumps invade and find purchase.
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### Author:  [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1312 "2016-10-09T20:57:54Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> The Republicans can’t keep him as the nominee if Trump N-word audio leaks out. It would be too damaging. They would be forced to take emergency action to jettison Trump or risk being equated with the KKK.
Ideal time for it to be released: Between October 31 and November 4. Absolutely no time for the uproar to quiet down, with people crawling over themselves to get to the polls to vote against him less than a week later.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1313 "2016-10-09T21:02:05Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> What’s your cite for Howard Sterns politics?
It’s pretty well known; he is a public media figure after all.[
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> Stern’s network, Sirius, announced a merger with XM radio recently which is pending approval before the FCC. Stern supports the merger, but Democrats on the FCC panel are opposed. This led him to call the Democrats out for their anti-business policies.
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> He said, “I have vowed I will never vote for a Democrat again,” because “they are for communism.” Finally, he’s catching on to what we on the right have been saying for years now.
]([http://conservativetribune.com/howard-stern-democrats-are-communists/](http://conservativetribune.com/howard-stern-democrats-are-communists/))[
> [@Howard Stern](#):
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> I’ve voted Republican and I’ve voted Democrat. I have vowed I will never vote for a Democrat again. I don’t give a fuck. No matter who they are… The facts are these Democrats at the FCC are Communists… they’re for communism.
]([What are the political views and Religious Beliefs of Howard Stern? - Hollowverse](http://hollowverse.com/howard-stern/))In 1994 he ran for Governor of New York as a Libertarian.
I wil note that those quotes are from 2008; it’s possible his views may have changed since then.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1314 "2016-10-09T21:03:53Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Ideal time for it to be released:
One hour before the third debate.
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1315 "2016-10-09T21:15:19Z")
> [@Lakai](#):
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> The transcripts are more evidence for the notion that Clinton has political positions that she doesn’t support in private. **John Mace** quoted the relevant portions up thread. It’s more evidence that Clinton is untrustworthy, which is a major factor cited by voters for not liking her.
Actually, neither you nor John have quoted anything. You just say “there’s stuff in there”. In order to prove that this stuff is untrustworthy, quote the part that concerns you and then go and quote the public statement that you think gives it the lie.
That’s how you prove that she’s lying in public.
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> While I’m glad the three of you do not think there is anything damaging in the transcripts (because I also support Clinton), that doesn’t mean that this revelation won’t cause Clinton to lose a significant amount of votes.
Oh, bullshit. Again, you haven’t even quoted the “revelation” that is supposedly so scary. If you want us to agree that there is a revelation here, one that would lose her “significant” votes, you have to be able to point to it.
I, too, am unimpressed with the American Public but even they are starting to wake up to the futility of all these breathless Clinton “scandals”.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1316 "2016-10-09T21:20:31Z")
nm
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### Author:  [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1317 "2016-10-09T21:31:26Z")
**Merneith** , I’ll quote John Mace’s post for you:
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Again, nothing really new if you know her, but:
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> 1. It’s important to have a public and a private stand on these issues (finance and international tread).
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> 2. Her vision is a for hemisphere of open borders and free trade.
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> The first one emphasizes that you can’t trust what she says in public and the 2nd contradicts her newfound stand against free trade. And depending on which hemisphere she’s talking about, that means open borders with Mexico.
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1318 "2016-10-09T21:33:41Z")
So who is it that would be fining whom regarding “N-word” audio?
(I’ll take “phrases you thought you’d never hear” for 200, Alex.)
And they’d just bleep it and he’d deny saying it anyway.
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### Author:  [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1319 "2016-10-09T21:35:26Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> It seems a sex scandal is the only kind of scandal the American public can recognize or respond to.
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> One is unimpressed with the American people.
Unlike the rest of the world, which yawns at sex scandals. :rolleyes:
I don’t think there was much sex involved with Watergate.
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1320 "2016-10-09T21:36:58Z")
It’s in the original link:
> [@](#):
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> According to Nee, who says she heard from “producers/crew” on the show, one of those “far worse” things is Trump saying the n-word. She tweeted the allegations at Mark Cuban, citing a $5 million penalty fee for leaking footage apparently included in most of Apprentice executive producer Mark Burnett’s contracts. This shouldn’t come as news to Cuban—his show, Shark Tank, is also produced by Burnett.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1321 "2016-10-09T21:44:50Z")
Any ideas floating around where the soundtrack of Trump and Billy Bush came from?
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1322 "2016-10-09T21:47:04Z")
Heaven?
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