# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1643 "2016-10-11T19:04:20Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> I wouldn’t be surprised if Donald immediately announces his intention to run again for 2020. He likes these campaigning rallies and he likes the money he makes renting his property to his campaign.

But that would only work if he admits that he loses in November 2016. That will never happen. Expect to see him showing up at the gates of the White House with a moving van come January.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1644 "2016-10-11T19:05:51Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> But that would only work if he admits that he loses in November 2016. That will never happen. Expect to see him showing up at the gates of the White House with a moving van come January.

Nah, he could do both. He’d be touting 2020 as his “reelection” campaign while suing the government.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1645 "2016-10-11T19:08:19Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Yes. They want to be protected from Hillary\*, whom they suspect of unknown dark deals with foreign powers and influences.

I don’t have a cite, but I read yesterday that Alex Jones was saying that unnamed Secret Service agents told him that both Hillary and Obama LITERALLY stink because they smell like sulfur, because they are, really, demons from Hell.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1646 "2016-10-11T19:11:18Z")

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[According to 538, 34% of Republican voters have a favorable rating of Trump, vs. only 16% for Paul Ryan.](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/paul-ryan-needs-trump-more-than-trump-needs-ryan/)

[Trump thinks he’s a blue collar worker.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/billioniare-donald-trump-blue-collar-worker-article-1.2825716) (I note that apparently though SOME newspapers do have editors who do things like check for spelling, that doesn’t apply to the spelling in their web page URLs.)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1647 "2016-10-11T19:31:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I don’t have a cite, but I read yesterday that Alex Jones was saying that unnamed Secret Service agents told him that both Hillary and Obama LITERALLY stink because they smell like sulfur, because they are, really, demons from Hell.

I expect Jones is outright lying, but if an SS agent actually said this, that person ought to be bounced off the protective team immediately. Would YOU take a bullet for Satan? Not me!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1648 "2016-10-11T19:37:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I don’t have a cite, but I read yesterday that Alex Jones was saying that unnamed Secret Service agents told him that both Hillary and Obama LITERALLY stink because they smell like sulfur, because they are, really, demons from Hell.

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I expect Jones is outright lying, but if an SS agent actually said this, that person ought to be bounced off the protective team immediately. Would YOU take a bullet for Satan? Not me!

Here’s the link:

> **[Trump Ally Alex Jones: "I Was Told By People Around" Clinton That "She's...](https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/trump-ally-alex-jones-i-was-told-people-around-clinton-shes-demon-possessed)**
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> From the October 10 edition of Genesis Communications Networks' The Alex Jones Show:

If you don’t want to watch the video (I didn’t), the gist is below.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1649 "2016-10-11T19:45:14Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I expect Jones is outright lying, but if an SS agent actually said this, that person ought to be bounced off the protective team immediately. Would YOU take a bullet for Satan? Not me!

Worse, such a person might feel bound to ignore sworn duty and take out Satan personally.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1650 "2016-10-11T19:49:34Z")

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Forgive if I missed it, but have we discussed this: [Donald Trump suggests more ‘inappropriate’ tapes may emerge](http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-suggests-more-inappropriate-tapes-may-emerge-10613114)

> [@](#):
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> _ **Trump** _
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> If they want to release more tapes saying inappropriate things, we’ll continue to talk about Bill and Hillary Clinton doing inappropriate things. There are so many of them.

Softening the landing for when the really juicy shit hits the fan?

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1651 "2016-10-11T19:51:35Z")

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Gonna need more than your regulation ammo - silver 9mms, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1652 "2016-10-11T19:51:42Z")

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He obviously knows worse tapes of himself exist.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1653 "2016-10-11T19:53:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Blowing up on Twitter with the above meme:
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> " Republican party vows to protect my daughter in NC bathrooms; refuses to protect her from their Pres candidate!"
> 
> 10k impressions past hour alone.

Wow, how awesome for you. Congrats! 🆒

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1654 "2016-10-11T19:59:58Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> He obviously knows worse tapes of himself exist.

His are the BEST worse tapes! You won’t believe how much BETTER worse they are!

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1655 "2016-10-11T20:04:20Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> [CNN host Carol Costello shuts down interview with Katrina Pierson](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/katrina-pierson-cnn-carol-costello-fight-229602)
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> On the whole, a relatively decent performance for Ms. Pierson. I was expecting her to say that Hillary Clinton made those comments back in 1938.

Oh. Thank. Og. I may need to send a Hallmark ‘Thank You’ card to Carol Costello.

FINALLY, someone on CNN has had enough and actually lifted the needle off of Trump’s [Broken Record](https://youtu.be/4FSV8w1UoZA?t=30).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1656 "2016-10-11T20:17:10Z")

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Look who angling for a place in Trump’s administration.  
[Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show ‘authoritarian power’](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html)

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> Maine Gov. Paul LePage stood by Donald Trump in a radio interview on Tuesday, saying that the United States might need someone like the GOP nominee to show “authoritarian power,” and dismissing concerns over an audiotape leaked last week that showed Trump describing how he forces himself upon women.  
> “Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we’ve had eight years of a president, he’s an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we’re slipping into anarchy,” LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1657 "2016-10-11T20:18:10Z")

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\*More Trump Tapes: ‘Apprentice’ Producer Warns Staff Not to Leak Material (Report)  
\*

> **[More Trump Tapes: 'Apprentice' Producer Warns Staff Not to Leak Material...](https://www.thewrap.com/more-trump-tapes-apprentice-producer-warns-staff-not-to-leak-material-report/)**
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> Mark Burnett "will sue anyone who leaks," source tells BuzzFeed News

Leak material about what I wonder. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1658 "2016-10-11T20:23:24Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Nah, he could do both. He’d be touting 2020 as his “reelection” campaign while suing the government.

Which reminds me of a great bumper sticker I saw during the 2004 campaign. It said “Re-defeat Bush in 2004”. Always chuckled when I saw that one.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1659 "2016-10-11T20:28:49Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Isn’t “candidate’s policy positions are so manifestly incompatible with Christian reverence for the lives of the most vulnerable” code for “candidate is pro-choice”?

Yup. But ref this absolute gem:

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> But before going there, they say:  
> You mean like her proposals to help the poor escape poverty? Or investing money in finding a way to prevent Alzheimer’s, a disease which makes elderly people about as vulnerable as it is possible to be?
> 
> What worthless excuses for Christians they are. You can make arguments (weak ones, IMHO, but leave that for now) that her ideas might be ineffective or even counterproductive, but one can hardly argue that at the heart of all her proposals is the goal of _improving the lives of real people._ But they can’t find one good word to say about her.  
> …

The key thing they’re trying to do is ensure “most vulnerable” is interpreted solely and only as “fetus”, not as anything else. As long as one speaks only in loaded code phrases and dog-whistles, the audience won’t engage their actual, you know, language processing skills and actually, you know, _think_. They’ll just recognize buzzphrases and salivate to the bell on cue.

Heaven forfend their evangelical audience started actually thinking critically. The Christian “authorities” would be screwed.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1660 "2016-10-11T20:30:33Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> \*More Trump Tapes: ‘Apprentice’ Producer Warns Staff Not to Leak Material (Report)  
> \*
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> [More Trump Tapes: 'Apprentice' Producer Warns Staff Not to Leak Material (Report) - TheWrap](http://www.thewrap.com/more-trump-tapes-apprentice-producer-warns-staff-not-to-leak-material-report/)
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> Leak material about what I wonder. 🙂

FWIW, Burnett is claiming [he can’t release any outtakes, and that he’s a Democrat to boot](https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/the-apprentice-producer-says-he-cant-release-any-trump-tapes).

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1661 "2016-10-11T20:33:42Z")

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From 538.

…\*42 percent of all Republican women serving in Congress or as governor have now stated that they do not support Trump, versus just 17 percent of the men.  
\*…

There’s something in those numbers that reflect poorly on Republican men. Maybe they ought to spend more time listening to their wives and girlfriends to find out what the message really is.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1662 "2016-10-11T20:33:56Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [Trump on his way to victory.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0) Well, at least as I see him now.

[Already a meme.](http://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/16/08/trumpridesnuke.jpg)

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