# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1663 "2016-10-11T20:33:57Z")
William Kristol, from the conservative The Weekly Standard, also wonders why Trump was not dumped earlier; and points to a conservative female follower on Twitter as an example of why it is not just what Trump did, but how the very pathetic reaction of many men in the GOP to the would be groper in chief is truly sinking the GOP brand. [http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-conservative-woman-on-the-moral-collapse-of-a-trump-excusing-gop/article/2004815](http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-conservative-woman-on-the-moral-collapse-of-a-trump-excusing-gop/article/2004815) > [@](#): > > A Conservative Woman On the Moral Collapse of a Trump-Excusing GOP > > … to any Republican men you know who continue to support Donald Trump. > > > [@](#): > > > > So let me get this straight: I, a conservative female, have spent years defending the Republican Party against claims of sexism. > > > > When I saw Republican men getting attacked I stood up for them. I came to their defense. I fought on their behalf. > > > > … > > > > Now some Trojan horse nationalist sexual predator invades the @GOP, eating it alive, and you cowards sit this one out? > > > > He treats women like dogs, and you go against everything I – and other female conservatives – said you were & back down like cowards. > > > > Others try to rebuke his comments, yet STILL choose to vote for a sexual predator - because let’s be honest, that’s what he is. > > > > … > > Various men in the movement are writing it off as normal, confirming every stereotype the left has thrown at them. So I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1664 "2016-10-11T20:35:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Look who angling for a place in Trump’s administration. > [Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show ‘authoritarian power’](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html) Q: if LePage, Ailes, and Christie are on the same platform as Trump… how the Hell is it not sagging!? You know, if Trump wins, there may just be the largest number of cabinet members travelling to and from White House briefings and meetings on [scooters](http://www.shoppingscooters.com/images/shoprider_sovereign_4.gif) ever recorded…? ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1665 "2016-10-11T20:40:26Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > From 538. > > …\*42 percent of all Republican women serving in Congress or as governor have now stated that they do not support Trump, versus just 17 percent of the men. > \*… > > There’s something in those numbers that reflect poorly on Republican men. Maybe they ought to spend more time listening to their wives and girlfriends to find out what the message really is. It reflects poorly on 58% of republican women, too. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1666 "2016-10-11T20:59:51Z")
It’s better to burn out than fade away. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1667 "2016-10-11T21:17:28Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Have you ever played a board game with a kid who just wasn’t very good at it, but who maybe had won the game a few times because Mom and Dad let him? Near the end, he realizes he’s losing, so he tries out some strategies: he complains that it’s unfair, he starts attacking you for playing well, and eventually he flips over the board and runs away crying. Thank you so much for not copyrighting this! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1668 "2016-10-11T21:29:03Z")
> [@skdo23](#): > > Thank you so much for not copyrighting this! That isn’t how copyright works. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1669 "2016-10-11T21:31:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Look who angling for a place in Trump’s administration. > [Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show ‘authoritarian power’](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > Maine Gov. Paul LePage stood by Donald Trump in a radio interview on Tuesday, saying that the United States might need someone like the GOP nominee to show “authoritarian power,” …"Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law Were I a high-school civics teacher, I’d spend a week on that (red) phrase alone. The logical disconnect exhibited therein is staggering! ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1670 "2016-10-11T21:38:09Z")
Huckabee compares Trump to Quint, and HRC to the shark in the original Jaws; people who have watched the movie collectively scratch their heads in confusion: [https://twitter.com/Jzokun/status/785708353360060416](https://twitter.com/Jzokun/status/785708353360060416) ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1671 "2016-10-11T21:38:44Z")
Not to mention, that the “authoritarian” is posed as the counter to the “autocrat.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1672 "2016-10-11T21:40:47Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Not to mention, that the “authoritarian” is posed as the counter to the “autocrat.” Good point. LePage’s brain appears to be wired up funny. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1673 "2016-10-11T21:46:54Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > That isn’t how copyright works. I’m well aware. It was my way of thanking LHoD for coming up with a great zinger that I’ve shared with many people on social media. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1674 "2016-10-11T22:38:50Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > Huckabee compares Trump to Quint, and HRC to the shark in the original Jaws; people who have watched the movie collectively scratch their heads in confusion: [x.com](https://twitter.com/Jzokun/status/785708353360060416) What an idiot (Huckabee). And now I dislike Megyn Kelly a little less–not just for correcting him immediately about Quint, but for singing “Spanish Ladies” as well. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1675 "2016-10-11T23:13:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Look who angling for a place in Trump’s administration. > [Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show ‘authoritarian power’](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html) I am not completely convinced that Trump couldn’t still make election night a little close for comfort. But I am increasingly confident that Trump will almost certainly be the ruin of the republican party. The trajectory, the pattern is clear. The GOP had a chance to stand up to the tea party in 2012 but didn’t. They had more chances in 2013 and 2014 but didn’t. They had a chance to block Trump from taking the debate stage in 2015. They had a chance to gang up on him in early 2016. They had a final chance to give Trump the nomination but they could have colluded to keep their distance from Trump and let him fizzle. Yes, all of those moves were fraught with risks in the short-term, but in the long-term, they could have saved their party from the madness they’re stuck with now. Even now they still have an option and Paul Ryan’s trying to explain it to them: let Trump lose and support the party down the ballot and have fun tormenting and obstructing president Clinton – even more fun against one of the weakest likely victors ever. But the rethuglicans are just too stupid to see it. The best (worst) is yet to come. Just wait until election night and in the weeks after the election. The GOP doesn’t know what to do about Trump and his band of crazies so it will run with its de facto leader, who has just packed them all into a stolen car and taken them on a wild joy ride. They will finally, eventually end up going to go too far – I don’t know what that means yet but they will. And when they do they’re going to ride over the cliff like Thelma and Louise ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1676 "2016-10-11T23:18:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Were I a high-school civics teacher, I’d spend a week on that (red) phrase alone. The logical disconnect exhibited therein is staggering! > [@](#): > > “I heard a lady the other day and I couldn’t,” LePage said. "I was so infuriated, I didn’t even wait to get her name. She was saying how bad Donald Trump is. How do you gauge a man’s heart? Is really my question. And I’ll tell you this. I’ll tell you how I gauge my heart. This from one of the most racist idiots we have seen in a long time. David Duke would be embarrassed to utter some of the nonsense this guy has. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1677 "2016-10-11T23:25:24Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I don’t have a cite, but I read yesterday that Alex Jones was saying that unnamed Secret Service agents told him that both Hillary and Obama LITERALLY stink because they smell like sulfur, because they are, really, demons from Hell. Yeah he’s a nutter, I read this in another thread as well. I met Hillary several years ago, shook hands with her even, and I can assure everyone she smelled quite pleasant. Perhaps she acquired her demonic status within the past couple years, or I couldn’t smell it, because I am also a demon. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1678 "2016-10-11T23:41:43Z")
Chris Christie’s support is wavering. He did not accompany Trump to the debate because he thought the apology was not convincing. Even Glenn Beck is supporting Hillary now. The Orange Fuhrer is getting more angry and desperate. He hates “disloyal” Republicans more than Hillary. It is going to be an ugly month with Trump lashing out at everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1679 "2016-10-11T23:54:38Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > [CNN host Carol Costello shuts down interview with Katrina Pierson](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/katrina-pierson-cnn-carol-costello-fight-229602) > > On the whole, a relatively decent performance for Ms. Pierson. I was expecting her to say that Hillary Clinton made those comments back in 1938. Katrina Pierson. What a widget head. I’m still trying to figure out her angle, what’s in it for her regarding Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1680 "2016-10-11T23:56:30Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > The Orange Fuhrer is getting more angry and desperate. He hates “disloyal” Republicans more than Hillary. It is going to be an ugly month with Trump lashing out at everyone. At this point Trump’s “plan” seems to be to take down the GOP with him. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1681 "2016-10-11T23:58:18Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Katrina Pierson. What a widget head. I’m still trying to figure out her angle, what’s in it for her regarding Trump. She’s a true believer: [x.com](https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/160181303680040960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) > [@](#): > > Perfect Obama’s dad born in Africa, Mitt Romney’s dad born in Mexico. Any pure breeds left? #CNNDebate ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1682 "2016-10-12T00:07:01Z")
I’m baffled by not one, but two, complete disconnects in a single sentence in LePage’s statement: > [@](#): > > “Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we’ve had eight years of a president, he’s an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we’re slipping into anarchy,” LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM. So, first, authoritarian power = rule of law? And second, we’ve had enough of an “autocrat” who “does it on his own”, so to fix that, we’ll replace him with someone who “shows some authoritarian power”? –Mark [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=85)