# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1683 "2016-10-12T00:08:52Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Chris Christie’s support is wavering. He did not accompany Trump to the debate because he thought the apology was not convincing. Even Glenn Beck is supporting Hillary now. Glenn Beck has always hated Trump. He took a “Never Trump” position over a year ago. Beck has been calling out Trump as a racist, a liar and a scumbag from the get-go and when Trump was nominated, Beck declared Clinton was guaranteed to win and that Trump was the doom of the GOP and there’d never be a Republican President again. So far his predictions look pretty spot-on. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1684 "2016-10-12T00:12:57Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > She’s a true believer: [x.com](https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/160181303680040960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) > [@](#): > > Perfect Obama’s dad born in Africa, Mitt Romney’s dad born in Mexico. Any pure breeds left? #CNNDebate True believer? She sounds like an evil Death Eater. I mean, this is the sort of tweet you’d expect from a stereotypical fictional villain. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1685 "2016-10-12T00:14:44Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Katrina Pierson. What a widget head. I’m still trying to figure out her angle, what’s in it for her regarding Trump. I assumed she was auditioning for Wife #4. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1686 "2016-10-12T00:21:16Z")
I don’t know if this is the best place for it, but Trump’s rhetoric is starting to really frighten me. A friend of mine had a woman in her 70s rail at her for not supporting Trump, and predicted a revolution if Clinton wins. Then she threatened to kick my friend on the face if Trump isn’t elected, on the battleground of “her” ruined country. It’s really making me hate my fellow Americans. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1687 "2016-10-12T00:24:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Little\_Pig](#): > > > > Katrina Pierson. What a widget head. I’m still trying to figure out her angle, what’s in it for her regarding Trump. > > I assumed she was auditioning for Wife #4. Gauleiter of Texas perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1688 "2016-10-12T00:29:17Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I don’t know if this is the best place for it, but Trump’s rhetoric is starting to really frighten me. A friend of mine had a woman in her 70s rail at her for not supporting Trump, and predicted a revolution if Clinton wins. Then she threatened to kick my friend on the face if Trump isn’t elected, on the battleground of “her” ruined country. > > It’s really making me hate my fellow Americans. History is full of countries with large numbers of decent people who have been driven to acts of horror by sustained propaganda assaults on civil society and on the truth. Americans are simply demonstrating that, contrary to their assumed exceptionalism, they’re as human as the rest. I’m disappointed that those of us who know better couldn’t and didn’t take action earlier to drown out the propaganda with a better countervailing message. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1689 "2016-10-12T01:01:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I assumed she was auditioning for Wife #4. Not blonde or white enough. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1690 "2016-10-12T01:04:11Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Chris Christie’s support is wavering. He did not accompany Trump to the debate because he thought the apology was not convincing. Even Glenn Beck is supporting Hillary now. I swear, the hyperbole (if that is what it is) here is getting a bit much. Beck did not say he is supporting Hillary. He said he considered voting for her but can’t. He made it absolutely clear he is not voting for Trump nor Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1691 "2016-10-12T01:12:37Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Not blonde or white enough. Or young enough. She’s 40. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1692 "2016-10-12T01:13:52Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > I swear, the hyperbole (if that is what it is) here is getting a bit much. Beck did not say he is supporting Hillary. He said he considered voting for her but can’t. He made it absolutely clear he is not voting for Trump nor Clinton. I think he has said he’s going to vote Constitution Party, but that at times he did get to the point he contemplated the possibility of having to vote Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1693 "2016-10-12T01:18:51Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > History is full of countries with large numbers of decent people who have been driven to acts of horror by sustained propaganda assaults on civil society and on the truth. > > Americans are simply demonstrating that, contrary to their assumed exceptionalism, they’re as human as the rest. Exactly this. Very well said, thank you. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > I’m disappointed that those of us who know better couldn’t and didn’t take action earlier to drown out the propaganda with a better countervailing message. As in other times in history, the conditions were exactly right for a particular type of demagogue to gain populist traction. It was almost like a perfect storm. It’s to America’s credit that the demagoguery is fading and not much more is going to happen than a very tumultuous election season and some nasty aftereffects that will, hopefully, be purely in the form of rhetoric. And a decent and in some ways even somewhat progressive democracy will soldier on. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1694 "2016-10-12T01:22:58Z")
Anyone with any insight on Alaska? 538 has it as a pretty light shade of Pink. Not as light as Arizona but lighter than Georgia. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1695 "2016-10-12T01:28:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > At this point Trump’s “plan” seems to be to take down the GOP with him. Oh, the humanity! ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1696 "2016-10-12T01:28:54Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > I swear, the hyperbole (if that is what it is) here is getting a bit much. Beck did not say he is supporting Hillary. He said he considered voting for her but can’t. He made it absolutely clear he is not voting for Trump nor Clinton. Sorry, I didn’t read the article carefully enough. :o Here is the actual Glenn Beck quote. > **[Glenn Beck](https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/posts/10154622008673188)** > > Every person, each of us must decide what is a bridge too far. > > Mike Lee has obviously reached that point, where the moral compromise his party is asking him to make is simply beyond what is... > [@](#): > > If the consequence of standing against Trump and for principles is indeed the election of Hillary Clinton, so be it. At least it is a moral, ethical choice. > If she is elected, the world does not end… Once elected, Hillary can be fought. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1697 "2016-10-12T01:29:02Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I think he has said he’s going to vote Constitution Party, but that at times he did get to the point he contemplated the possibility of having to vote Clinton. Yes, as I said, he considered it, and ultimately decided that he could not. That is a far, far cry from supporting Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1698 "2016-10-12T01:53:09Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > What an idiot (Huckabee). And now I dislike Megyn Kelly a little less–not just for correcting him immediately about Quint, but for singing “Spanish Ladies” as well. Have no fear, in this analogy, Pence is Sheriff Brody. And Paul Ryan is the largely ineffectual Hooper. They’re both gonna swim to shore once the inevitable explosion happens. But then, Chelsea and her offspring will continue to haunt Pence in less entertaining further incidents. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1699 "2016-10-12T02:01:42Z")
No, Pence can’t be Brody. Brody is a noble character. Trump is the shark and Pence is the barrels they tag the shark with, trying in vain to keep him from going too low. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1700 "2016-10-12T02:03:43Z")
In other news, John Boehner hasn’t stopped smiling in weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1701 "2016-10-12T02:21:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Look who angling for a place in Trump’s administration. > [Maine Gov. Paul LePage: Maybe the country needs Trump to show ‘authoritarian power’](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/paul-lepage-authoritarian-power/index.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > Maine Gov. Paul LePage stood by Donald Trump in a radio interview on Tuesday, saying that the United States might need someone like the GOP nominee to show “authoritarian power,” and dismissing concerns over an audiotape leaked last week that showed Trump describing how he forces himself upon women. > > “Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we’ve had eight years of a president, he’s an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we’re slipping into anarchy,” LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM. Holy fuck does he have any idea what some of those words mean? It’s a word salad of completely incompatible concepts. Reminds me of the [Hi, I’m a Tea-Partier](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUfPQVOqpw) video. ETA: That video is six years old… what’s changed since it was made? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1702 "2016-10-12T02:25:14Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In other news, John Boehner hasn’t stopped smiling in weeks. No. Fucking. Joke. I’m thinking of this hilarious [film](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlSiNWg7XBI)where John Boehner gives Obama retirement advice. At about 3:12 he says to the President, “I had a beer at 11:30 in the morning. And McDonald’s now serves breakfast all day.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=86)