# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 86
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1703 "2016-10-12T02:27:23Z")
You just gotta check out this [batshit crazy Trump supporter](http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-mike-pence-halts-trump-supporter-for-1476223249-htmlstory.html)in the video portion of the story. What’s not so funny is that there are over 30 million of them out there. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1704 "2016-10-12T02:27:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > True believer? She sounds like an evil Death Eater… Is there any other kind? > [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Not blonde or white enough. I suspect her boobs might be not big enough for him, either. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1705 "2016-10-12T02:31:12Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > William Kristol, from the conservative The Weekly Standard, also wonders why Trump was not dumped earlier; and points to a conservative female follower on Twitter as an example of why it is not just what Trump did, but how the very pathetic reaction of many men in the GOP to the would be groper in chief is truly sinking the GOP brand. > > [http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-conservative-woman-on-the-moral-collapse-of-a-trump-excusing-gop/article/2004815](http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-conservative-woman-on-the-moral-collapse-of-a-trump-excusing-gop/article/2004815) Ooof! That’s pretty powerful stuff! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1706 "2016-10-12T02:40:40Z")
Kayleigh McEnany (on CNN) just claimed that Trump recently asked Jesus into his life and Rev. Dobson claims to have witnessed it. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1707 "2016-10-12T02:45:14Z")
Holy Christ. Frank Luntz (Repub pollster) just tweeted the following: > [@](#): > > Between Sept. 10th and Oct. 10th, the Florida GOP registered 117 new voters. > > Florida Democrats registered 6,920. > > > ABC News Politics @ABCPolitics Primary citation: > **[EXCLUSIVE: Florida Ground Game: Between Sept 10 & Oct 10, 2016, the...](https://electionsmith.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/exclusive-florida-ground-game-between-sept-10-oct-10-2016-the-republican-party-of-florida-submitted-117-new-non-blank-voter-registration-forms-the-florida-democratic-party-submitted-6/)** > > Overall, over the past month, Third Party Voter Registration Organizations (3PVROs) have submitted to the state’s 67 Supervisors of Elections (SOEs) some 21,952 “non-blank” voter … More: > [@](#): > > Several other advocacy groups also submitted thousands of new state and federal registration forms over the past month, among them: > > National Council of La Raza/Democracia USA: 3,703 > > New Florida Majority Education Fund: 3,420 > > GRSG Company: 2,228 ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1708 "2016-10-12T02:48:23Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Nobody is claiming that Trump himself found the news article. But if it was public, I’m sure he has someone on his staff capable of doing an internet news search. > > I hate defending him, and I’m not ruling out this direct connection, but this, unfortunately, is not a smoking gun because personally, the easiest answer is that his staff found this and ran with it. But how exactly did they find it? Apparently it wasn’t something that was easily findable on Google or Bing. If it was then hordes of amateur right-wing bloggers, who are constantly scouring the net for such things, would have found it and it would have been all over the net before Trump had a chance to bring it up. Doesn’t it seem odd that Trump’s campaign was seemingly the first to find it, and that no one else seems to have been aware of it until he brought it up? If I worked for an intelligence agency, I’d want to have a look at Google’s (and maybe Bing’s) search records to see a few things: if Google had even indexed it before it was taken down, and if they had, who, if anyone, had found it in a search and clicked on it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1709 "2016-10-12T02:50:06Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > You just gotta check out this [batshit crazy Trump supporter](http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-mike-pence-halts-trump-supporter-for-1476223249-htmlstory.html)in the video portion of the story. What’s not so funny is that there are over 30 million of them out there. Pence is a coward. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1710 "2016-10-12T02:56:31Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Pence is a coward. Unlike Trump, he can’t get away with shooting someone. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1711 "2016-10-12T03:05:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Unlike Trump, he can’t get away with shooting someone. I don’t consider that very funny. Pence could have and should have said—similar to how McCain said in 2008—no, you are not going to die if Clinton wins, there’s no reason to believe that the Democrats will steal this election, voter fraud is not a serious problem in this country? And talking about a revolution is treason. That’s what any sincere member of any party should say. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1712 "2016-10-12T03:13:38Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany (on CNN) just claimed that Trump recently asked Jesus into his life and Rev. Dobson claims to have witnessed it. > Seriously. I’ve been waiting for this. Next up: live coverage of full immersion baptism. Wait…the hair can’t go under… maybe he can get a dispensation for the hair. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1713 "2016-10-12T03:15:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany (on CNN) just claimed that Trump recently asked Jesus into his life and Rev. Dobson claims to have witnessed it. > Seriously. Then he will be repudiating his entire campaign on Twitter tonight and withdrawing in the morning. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1714 "2016-10-12T03:25:18Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > if Google had even indexed it before it was taken down, and if they had, who, if anyone, had found it in a search and clicked on it. Given that it’s in Google’s cache, I assume, yes, it had been indexed by them. ETA: [Here’s the cache, by the way](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:F6xU57lYXkAJ:https://sputniknews.com/world/201610101046200602-hillary-benghazi-wikileaks-podesta-emails/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us). ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1715 "2016-10-12T03:27:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ve been waiting for this. Next up: live coverage of full immersion baptism. Wait…the hair can’t go under… maybe he can get a dispensation for the hair. Imagine he buys an hour of prime time on all the major networks on Sunday, October 17: “The Baptism of Donald Trump.” Family interviews, testimonies, a parade of righty-tighty pastors, with Donald sitting off to the side on a big soft red couch, smiling and nodding, praying along. He gives his testimony half way through, and joins Ralph Reed for a brief interview and confession. Then, with ten minutes left in the hour, Franklin Graham and James Dobson take Donald off stage to put on his baptismal gown. A choir sings a modern-day praise hymn. Finally, the stage goes dark, there’s a stir in the studio and giant back-lit tank of water rises from the center stage. Donald emerges from behind it with [Pastor Mark Burns](http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/uploaded/darrell-scott-donald-trump-r.jpg) leading him out, a blast of blue light behind him. Pastor Burns prays over Donald, there’s a stir as every other pastor in the studio jockeys for position on stage to lay their hands on him. Pastor Burns helps him into the tank, and dunks him. There’s a cheer and applause from the studio. Donald’s face emerges from the baptismal waters, smiling. He gives the thumbs-up, Melania joins him next to the tank and gives him a kiss. Fade to black with the studio applause continuing and the Rolling Stones “Can I Get a Witness” playing them off. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1716 "2016-10-12T03:36:38Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Imagine he buys an hour of prime time on all the major networks on Sunday, October 17: “The Baptism of Donald Trump.” > > Family interviews, testimonies, a parade of righty-tighty pastors, with Donald sitting off to the side on a big soft red couch, smiling and nodding, praying along. He gives his testimony half way through, and joins Ralph Reed for a brief interview and confession. > > Then, with ten minutes left in the hour, Franklin Graham and James Dobson take Donald off stage to put on his baptismal gown. A choir sings a modern-day praise hymn. Finally, the stage goes dark, there’s a stir in the studio and giant back-lit tank of water rises from the center stage. Donald emerges from behind it with [Pastor Mark Burns](http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/uploaded/darrell-scott-donald-trump-r.jpg) leading him out, a blast of blue light behind him. Pastor Burns prays over Donald, there’s a stir as every other pastor in the studio jockeys for position on stage to lay their hands on him. Pastor Burns helps him into the tank, and dunks him. There’s a cheer and applause from the studio. Donald’s face emerges from the baptismal waters, smiling. He gives the thumbs-up, Melania joins him next to the tank and gives him a kiss. Fade to black with the studio applause continuing and the Rolling Stones “Can I Get a Witness” playing them off. > > We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. I love it, but WHAT ABOUT THE HAIR?? Maybe he’ll have it so coated with [del]hairspray[/del] shellac that it can take full immersion. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1717 "2016-10-12T03:40:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I don’t have a cite, but I read yesterday that Alex Jones was saying that unnamed Secret Service agents told him that both Hillary and Obama LITERALLY stink because they smell like sulfur, because they are, really, demons from Hell. A very funny reply from Obama: > **[C’mon People! Obama Reacts to Trump Braintrust’s “Obama is a Demon” Rant](https://thinc.blog/2016/10/11/cmon-people-obama-reacts-to-trump-braintrusts-obama-is-a-demon-rant/)** > > See Trump science advisor Alex Jone’s video rant below on this page. No doubt I’ll be hearing from deniers that Obama didn’t specifically deny that he was, in fact, a demon.  … I 😃 when he began to smell his hand to check. But really, as Obama said, democracy in this country doesn’t work if you constantly demonize others, specially when the demonizing is literal. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1718 "2016-10-12T04:06:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany (on CNN) just claimed that Trump recently asked Jesus into his life and Rev. Dobson claims to have witnessed it. > Seriously. > [@silenus](#): > > Then he will be repudiating his entire campaign on Twitter tonight and withdrawing in the morning. Cool. You’re thinking of that hippie Jesus - this is a different Jesus. Womanizing guy, small hands, skin a frightening unnatural color. he ha welcomed Cheeto Jesus into his life, and Cheeto Jesus approves of everything he has done so far! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1719 "2016-10-12T04:14:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Imagine he buys an hour of prime time on all the major networks on Sunday, October 17: “The Baptism of Donald Trump.” > > Family interviews, testimonies, a parade of righty-tighty pastors, with Donald sitting off to the side on a big soft red couch, smiling and nodding, praying along. He gives his testimony half way through, and joins Ralph Reed for a brief interview and confession. > > Then, with ten minutes left in the hour, Franklin Graham and James Dobson take Donald off stage to put on his baptismal gown. A choir sings a modern-day praise hymn. Finally, the stage goes dark, there’s a stir in the studio and giant back-lit tank of water rises from the center stage. Donald emerges from behind it with [Pastor Mark Burns](http://c1.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/uploaded/darrell-scott-donald-trump-r.jpg) leading him out, a blast of blue light behind him. Pastor Burns prays over Donald, there’s a stir as every other pastor in the studio jockeys for position on stage to lay their hands on him. Pastor Burns helps him into the tank, and dunks him. Trump bursts into flames and… > [@](#): > > There’s a cheer and applause from the studio. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1720 "2016-10-12T04:15:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Given that it’s in Google’s cache, I assume, yes, it had been indexed by them. > > ETA: [Here’s the cache, by the way](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:F6xU57lYXkAJ:https://sputniknews.com/world/201610101046200602-hillary-benghazi-wikileaks-podesta-emails/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us). Google cached that at 19:23:45 GMT, which was a few hours before the 7:00 PM Trump rally in Wilkes Barre where he made the announcement, so at the very least, Google was aware of it before then, so it is possible that his people found it from a Google search or a Google alert. Google caching it at 19:23 GMT doesn’t necessarily mean that it was indexed or sent out on alerts at that point but it may in fact have been available before the rally. However, from the [Newsweek article](http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635): > [@](#): > > This false story was reported only by the Russian-controlled agency (a reference appeared in a Turkish publication, but it was nothing but a link to the Sputnik article). So how did Donald Trump end up advancing the same falsehood put out by Putin’s mouthpiece? If Newsweek is correct about this then almost no one else was reporting it, and one would think that if it was indexed and being sent out by alerts then someone else somewhere would have posted it or tweeted it or whatever and it would have quickly been all over the place. Of course that depends on the timing of when it was actually available by search and sent out as alerts. So, even though it still smells funny to me, there’s no real proof. A search of Google’s logs might be enlightening but I doubt will be forthcoming (and probably shouldn’t be). ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1721 "2016-10-12T04:46:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Next up: live coverage of full immersion baptism. Wait…the hair can’t go under… maybe he can get a dispensation for the hair. The yellow hair is soaked and the coats of hairspray are washed out. For the first time, the hair moves freely and a strange thing happens – a pair of horns are visible. Trump knows everyone can see the horns. He grins wildly and says, “Yes, I am Lucifer and I will be your president because you deserve it.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1722 "2016-10-12T05:25:35Z")
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