# Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277 "2016-09-30T11:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1743 "2016-10-12T12:32:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ve been waiting for this. Next up: live coverage of full immersion baptism. Wait…the hair can’t go under… maybe he can get a dispensation for the hair. You know, maybe it would work better with malmsey? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1744 "2016-10-12T12:44:45Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Kayleigh McEnany (on CNN) just claimed that Trump recently asked Jesus into his life and Rev. Dobson claims to have witnessed it. > Seriously. Didn’t we hear this [back in June?](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/politics/a-born-again-donald-trump-believe-it-evangelical-leader-says.html) Because his life as a ‘baby Christian’ since then hasn’t exactly been much of a witness. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1745 "2016-10-12T12:55:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > @ **Merneith** : I think **Fear Itself** meant ISIS. I know but Manson was feeling left out. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1746 "2016-10-12T12:55:20Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > You know, maybe it would work better with malmsey? 😃 Drowning the butt in malmsey. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1747 "2016-10-12T12:56:42Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Didn’t we hear this [back in June?](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/us/politics/a-born-again-donald-trump-believe-it-evangelical-leader-says.html) > > Because his life as a ‘baby Christian’ since then hasn’t exactly been much of a witness. Just sayin’. If you can be born again, presumably you can be born again, again. [QUOTE=Dennis Miller] So can you be born again, and again, and again, and again, like some evangelical Gabor sister? [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1748 "2016-10-12T13:01:50Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Now that’s interesting, because no one’s polling McMullin. Well… in the article you’re commenting on, McMullin was being polled, and was just behind them at 22 percent. So someone is. McMullin clearly is killing Gary Johnson’s shot. If he WASN’T in the race, it’s plausible Johnson, who’s at 14 percent, might be ahead of McMullin’s 22 and conceivably winning. By being in the race McMullin is hurting Trump but is also damaging the chance of a third party candidate by splitting the protest vote between himself and Johnson. IF that poll is accurate, McMullin might actually give Utah to… Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1749 "2016-10-12T13:03:16Z")
[Meanwhile, Trump’s GOTV efforts hit a snag when he implores supporters to vote twenty days after Election Day](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-election-day-november-229651): > [@](#): > > Call it Donald Trump’s November surprise. > > The Republican nominee urged Florida residents at a Panama City rally Tuesday night to register and turn out the vote come Election Day on November 28, instead of the actual date of November 8. > > “There’s never been anything like this so go and register,” Trump said. “Make sure you get out and vote, November 28.” This could be the break the Johnson campaign has been looking for! ---
**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1750 "2016-10-12T13:13:33Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > [Meanwhile, Trump’s GOTV efforts hit a snag when he implores supporters to vote twenty days after Election Day](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-election-day-november-229651): > > This could be the break the Johnson campaign has been looking for! Elsewhere, someone pointed out that November 28 is the first court date for the Trump University fraud case. It seems that Trump is mixing up all the different dates where he’s gonna lose bigly. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1751 "2016-10-12T13:14:49Z")
Hillary kept invading Donald’s personal space during the debate. That woman has no shame. > **[Trump, turning the tables, accuses Clinton of invading his space at debate](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/12/trump-turning-the-tables-accuses-clinton-of-invading-his-space-at-debate/)** > > Trump was responding to accusations that he had invaded Clinton's personal space at the debate. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1752 "2016-10-12T13:20:49Z")
538’s “Now Cast” now has Trump’s odds of success at in the single digits at 9.2%, something I’ve been awaiting anxiously to see. Great way to start the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1753 "2016-10-12T13:21:08Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well… in the article you’re commenting on, McMullin was being polled, and was just behind them at 22 percent. So someone is. > > McMullin clearly is killing Gary Johnson’s shot. If he WASN’T in the race, it’s plausible Johnson, who’s at 14 percent, might be ahead of McMullin’s 22 and conceivably winning. By being in the race McMullin is hurting Trump but is also damaging the chance of a third party candidate by splitting the protest vote between himself and Johnson. IF that poll is accurate, McMullin might actually give Utah to… Donald Trump. I suspect only in Utah. Other places its “who?” Johnson doesn’t have a shot nationally - he’s a guy who has climbed most of the world’s big mountains, but can’t find any of them on a map - he makes Sarah Palin look like a Geography Bee state champion. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1754 "2016-10-12T13:30:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Now that’s interesting, because no one’s polling McMullin. I wonder if McMullin is going to be a much bigger outlet for disaffected Republicans than we currently think, maybe putting up Johnson-level numbers of 7% or so? Note a chance. As of October 3, he had only had 150,000 people request online information. ([Cite](http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663939/Independent-presidential-candidate-Evan-McMullin-using-Mitt-Romney-email-list-to-raise-money.html?pg=all)) The interesting part is that he could move Utah either to Clinton or take it, which would hurt Trump. He’s Mormon, and the LDS-owned Deseret News recently took a stance against Trump. Although they claim to have done this on their own, most of the rank and file will assume that came from the Mormon leadership. I’ve posted elsewhere, but about 5% of Arizona is nominally Mormon, although the activity rate is about 50%. So is Alaska, and Clinton is possibly coming into play there. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1755 "2016-10-12T13:49:00Z")
Some Trump donors are now asking for refunds - yeah, good luck with that!: [Major GOP donors are asking Trump for their money back](http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/10/12/major-gop-donors-are-asking-trump-for-their-money-back/21580613/) Here’s Obama on _Game of Thrones_, stacking Cheerios and registering to vote: [5 Things That Are Harder Than Registering To Vote, Featuring President Obama - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eE7Da_6AMM) ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1756 "2016-10-12T13:50:44Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > 538’s “Now Cast” now has Trump’s odds of success at in the single digits at 9.2%, something I’ve been awaiting anxiously to see. Great way to start the morning. Not to mention that Iowa and Arizona are both blue in Nowcast/Polls-Only, and Iowa _remains_ light blue even in the Polls-Plus forecast! Good heavens. IOWA. (Honestly I don’t expect it to stay any shade of blue, but it’s still a marvelous thing to see.) ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1757 "2016-10-12T13:59:20Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Not to mention that Iowa and Arizona are both blue in Nowcast/Polls-Only, and Iowa _remains_ light blue even in the Polls-Plus forecast! Good heavens. IOWA. > > (Honestly I don’t expect it to stay any shade of blue, but it’s still a marvelous thing to see.) Iowa has been blue in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1758 "2016-10-12T14:00:51Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Not to mention that Iowa and Arizona are both blue in Nowcast/Polls-Only, and Iowa _remains_ light blue even in the Polls-Plus forecast! Good heavens. IOWA. > > (Honestly I don’t expect it to stay any shade of blue, but it’s still a marvelous thing to see.) Well, Obama did win the state both times… (ETA: Ninja’ed!) ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1759 "2016-10-12T14:04:40Z")
Trump is now trying to help Clinton. He’s asking his supporters to get out and vote [Nov. 28](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-encourages-his-supporters-to-go-vote-on-november-28.html?wpsrc=nymag). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1760 "2016-10-12T14:18:17Z")
Not a moment too soon! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1761 "2016-10-12T14:19:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Some Trump donors are now asking for refunds - yeah, good luck with that!: [Major GOP donors are asking Trump for their money back](http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/10/12/major-gop-donors-are-asking-trump-for-their-money-back/21580613/) > > Here’s Obama on _Game of Thrones_, stacking Cheerios and registering to vote: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eE7Da\_6AMM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eE7Da_6AMM) Great vid of the President. Thanks for the link. But your missing comma between “Cheerios” and “and” had me expecting something very different. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/1762 "2016-10-12T14:34:42Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Trump is now trying to help Clinton. > > He’s asking his supporters to get out and vote [Nov. 28](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-encourages-his-supporters-to-go-vote-on-november-28.html?wpsrc=nymag). How soon before the rumor starts that Hillary secretly had Election Day moved and he found out? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277.md?page=89)